Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Here's a question off the top of my head. We've been chelating (the kids and I) since Dec. 2005 and taking zinc, 4x/day, according to the dosage by weight recommendations in the Supplement File over at A-M. My limited understanding is mercury-poisoned people need lots of zinc. But can supplementing with zinc long-term cause problems, such as upsetting the copper/zinc ratio in the body? in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 HI , Chelation pulls lots of zinc so much of the intake is most likely being drawn anyway. I have read that high zinc intake can contribute to iron issues ins some cases. If blood testing shows zinc and iron to be OK, there shouldn't be any drama. ie kids looking anaemic etc would be reason for concern. Copper is in so many foods you are bound to be keeping that up anyway. Getting the kids healed is the priority so keep up the great effort. na > > Here's a question off the top of my head. We've been chelating (the kids and I) since Dec. > 2005 and taking zinc, 4x/day, according to the dosage by weight recommendations in the > Supplement File over at A-M. > > My limited understanding is mercury-poisoned people need lots of zinc. But can > supplementing with zinc long-term cause problems, such as upsetting the copper/zinc ratio > in the body? > > in Illinois > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Also, usually those dealing with a mercury problem have too much copper anyway. Zinc helps balance that. If you are dosing per weight you should be fine. Long term in a healthy person maybe, who has no metals to deal with, but it would take a lot of zinc and a long time to create a copper problem. Usually, the copper problem is there first as a result of the mercury, and thus creates the zinc deficiency in the first place. Also, anyone exposed to Lead will be zinc deficient and taking lots of zinc will discourage absorption of Lead. Andy does not recomend giving copper at all to someone mercury toxic. Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you should be fine. can > supplementing with zinc long-term cause problems, such as upsetting the copper/zinc ratio > in the body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Also, usually those dealing with a mercury problem have too much copper anyway. Zinc helps balance that. If you are dosing per weight you should be fine. Long term in a healthy person maybe, who has no metals to deal with, but it would take a lot of zinc and a long time to create a copper problem. Usually, the copper problem is there first as a result of the mercury, and thus creates the zinc deficiency in the first place. Also, anyone exposed to Lead will be zinc deficient and taking lots of zinc will discourage absorption of Lead. Andy does not recomend giving copper at all to someone mercury toxic. Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you should be fine. can > supplementing with zinc long-term cause problems, such as upsetting the copper/zinc ratio > in the body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Also, usually those dealing with a mercury problem have too much copper anyway. Zinc helps balance that. If you are dosing per weight you should be fine. Long term in a healthy person maybe, who has no metals to deal with, but it would take a lot of zinc and a long time to create a copper problem. Usually, the copper problem is there first as a result of the mercury, and thus creates the zinc deficiency in the first place. Also, anyone exposed to Lead will be zinc deficient and taking lots of zinc will discourage absorption of Lead. Andy does not recomend giving copper at all to someone mercury toxic. Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you should be fine. can > supplementing with zinc long-term cause problems, such as upsetting the copper/zinc ratio > in the body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 > > Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing > copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem > with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one > with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high > copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts > in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you > should be fine. > No, copper was not high on the initial hair tests. What caught my attention was something I read in Langer's book " Solved: The Riddle of Illness " . I picked up the book to read more about thyroid, and Langer makes reference to a man who was taking 100 mg of Zn per day and developed cardiac irregularties. So, I just wondering...as we continue to chelate and get well, when do we know to reduce the amount of supplements we are taking, esp. those which are not water soluble. in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 > > Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing > copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem > with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one > with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high > copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts > in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you > should be fine. > No, copper was not high on the initial hair tests. What caught my attention was something I read in Langer's book " Solved: The Riddle of Illness " . I picked up the book to read more about thyroid, and Langer makes reference to a man who was taking 100 mg of Zn per day and developed cardiac irregularties. So, I just wondering...as we continue to chelate and get well, when do we know to reduce the amount of supplements we are taking, esp. those which are not water soluble. in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 > > Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing > copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem > with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one > with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high > copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts > in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you > should be fine. > No, copper was not high on the initial hair tests. What caught my attention was something I read in Langer's book " Solved: The Riddle of Illness " . I picked up the book to read more about thyroid, and Langer makes reference to a man who was taking 100 mg of Zn per day and developed cardiac irregularties. So, I just wondering...as we continue to chelate and get well, when do we know to reduce the amount of supplements we are taking, esp. those which are not water soluble. in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I have found that as my kids did not need certain supplements, they either react negatively to them or refuse to take them. As long as your doing chelation it is recomended that you take the doses as such by Andy. Should you stop chelation it's up to you. If you are not completely chelated or untoxic you will probably find that you feel awful without any supplements. When you finally get a normal hair test (after a few years of chelation), it is recomended that you chelate a while longer because you are almost cured. After that time you could reduce your supplements to RDA's as long as you feel good. But with the current status of our food supply and how depleted it is of nutrients, and the huge amounts of enviormental toxins we are exposed too, it might be a lifelong thing..taking vitmains and minerals. Keep in mind that the Food and Drug recomended RDA's are very very low in comparison to what a body really needs to function optimally. And the foods we eat are like 60% lower in nutrients than our parents ate. You can continue to take fat soluable vitamins all the time as you body does use them up. Just use sensible amounts and don't go above the weight recomendations. It makes sense to dose by weight..they do for any other medicine they give out..so how can the RDA of 60mg of vitamin C make sense for a 100 pound person and a 250 pound person? I would recomend reading a vitamin guide that will tell you about each vitamin and mineral, what it does and what to look for with toxicity of that nutrient. It helps to know the symptoms of toxicity, and what the nutrient does in the body. They usually have symptoms that are associated with deficency as well. I have been on 100mg of zinc a day and am fine. I tend to disregard a lot of what I read that doesn't make sense. 100mg of zinc is not a super high dose for an adult. If anything, his cardiac problems were due to his thyroid not working right. > > > > Do you think the person/child is copper toxic? If hair testing > > copper was not high, it's very unlikely there would be a problem > > with long term zinc because it is needed anyway. We are on year one > > with daily zinc and I only see benefits, such as alleviated high > > copper symptoms in myself, no more chewing in my kids, no more warts > > in older child....etc. So in accordance with what I read..No..you > > should be fine. > > > > > No, copper was not high on the initial hair tests. > > What caught my attention was something I read in Langer's book " Solved: The > Riddle of Illness " . I picked up the book to read more about thyroid, and Langer makes > reference to a man who was taking 100 mg of Zn per day and developed cardiac > irregularties. > > So, I just wondering...as we continue to chelate and get well, when do we know to reduce > the amount of supplements we are taking, esp. those which are not water soluble. > > in Illinois > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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