Re: SECOND BUMP to Val - really need help figuring new labs - thanks!

May 18, 2010

What your story is telling me is reducing the T4 initially helped your RT3 go

down as it does. BUT you never fixzed the CAUSE of your Rt3 so when you try ot

raiasew the natural wiht it's T4 your RT3 comes right back with a vengeance. I

cannto use " ferritin is good " we need FULL IRON PANEL to really knwo what is

going on and thta is where i htink you will find your issues.

>

5/14/10- serum - on 1 grain NT & 17mcg Cytomel

FT3: 228 (range: 230-420) this is pg/DL

FT4: 0.5 (range: 0.8 1.8)

RT3: 124 (range: 90-350) this is pg/ML

FT3/RT3 ratio: ??

TSH: 2.16 (range: .40 4.50)

May 18, 2010

Sorry, Val. I posted here quite a few times before, and thought you might

remember, since my case was unusual, and we'd discussed the iron thing several

times. But, I SO understand that you deal with a zillion people, and how could

you!!!!!!!!?!??!?!?

My ferritin was low (6) did rounds of IV iron and got it up again. (to 189!).

It then went down again to 56 and I got another round of IV iron so i could then

try to increase the T3. We were in discussions then.

I had a full iron panel when my ferritin was 6 - in 2008:

Iron 87 (range: 40-175)

TIBC 361 (range: 250-450)

Transferrin Saturation 24 (range: 15-50)

Ferritin 6 (range: 10-232)

Thanks much, Carol

>

> What your story is telling me is reducing the T4 initially helped your RT3 go

down as it does. BUT you never fixzed the CAUSE of your Rt3 so when you try ot

raiasew the natural wiht it's T4 your RT3 comes right back with a vengeance. I

cannto use " ferritin is good " we need FULL IRON PANEL to really knwo what is

going on and thta is where i htink you will find your issues.

>

> >

> 5/14/10- serum - on 1 grain NT & 17mcg Cytomel

> FT3: 228 (range: 230-420) this is pg/DL

> FT4: 0.5 (range: 0.8 1.8)

> RT3: 124 (range: 90-350) this is pg/ML

> FT3/RT3 ratio: ??

> TSH: 2.16 (range: .40 4.50)

>

May 18, 2010

Sorry, Val. I posted here quite a few times before, and thought you might

remember, since my case was unusual, and we'd discussed the iron thing several

times. But, I SO understand that you deal with a zillion people, and how could

you!!!!!!!!?!??!?!?

My ferritin was low (6) did rounds of IV iron and got it up again. (to 189!).

It then went down again to 56 and I got another round of IV iron so i could then

try to increase the T3. We were in discussions then.

I had a full iron panel when my ferritin was 6 - in 2008:

Iron 87 (range: 40-175)

TIBC 361 (range: 250-450)

Transferrin Saturation 24 (range: 15-50)

Ferritin 6 (range: 10-232)

Thanks much, Carol

>

> What your story is telling me is reducing the T4 initially helped your RT3 go

down as it does. BUT you never fixzed the CAUSE of your Rt3 so when you try ot

raiasew the natural wiht it's T4 your RT3 comes right back with a vengeance. I

cannto use " ferritin is good " we need FULL IRON PANEL to really knwo what is

going on and thta is where i htink you will find your issues.

>

> >

> 5/14/10- serum - on 1 grain NT & 17mcg Cytomel

> FT3: 228 (range: 230-420) this is pg/DL

> FT4: 0.5 (range: 0.8 1.8)

> RT3: 124 (range: 90-350) this is pg/ML

> FT3/RT3 ratio: ??

> TSH: 2.16 (range: .40 4.50)

>

May 18, 2010

Sorry, Val. I posted here quite a few times before, and thought you might

remember, since my case was unusual, and we'd discussed the iron thing several

times. But, I SO understand that you deal with a zillion people, and how could

you!!!!!!!!?!??!?!?

My ferritin was low (6) did rounds of IV iron and got it up again. (to 189!).

It then went down again to 56 and I got another round of IV iron so i could then

try to increase the T3. We were in discussions then.

I had a full iron panel when my ferritin was 6 - in 2008:

Iron 87 (range: 40-175)

TIBC 361 (range: 250-450)

Transferrin Saturation 24 (range: 15-50)

Ferritin 6 (range: 10-232)

Thanks much, Carol

>

> What your story is telling me is reducing the T4 initially helped your RT3 go

down as it does. BUT you never fixzed the CAUSE of your Rt3 so when you try ot

raiasew the natural wiht it's T4 your RT3 comes right back with a vengeance. I

cannto use " ferritin is good " we need FULL IRON PANEL to really knwo what is

going on and thta is where i htink you will find your issues.

>

> >

> 5/14/10- serum - on 1 grain NT & 17mcg Cytomel

> FT3: 228 (range: 230-420) this is pg/DL

> FT4: 0.5 (range: 0.8 1.8)

> RT3: 124 (range: 90-350) this is pg/ML

> FT3/RT3 ratio: ??

> TSH: 2.16 (range: .40 4.50)

>

May 18, 2010

Iron 87 (range: 40-175)

TIBC 361 (range: 250-450)

Transferrin Saturation 24 (range: 15-50)

Ferritin 6 (range: 10-232)

So how loing since the iron IV? Unless your T3 was in the upper part of it's

range it wil have fallen again. T3 is what helps your body hold on to the iron.

If it si the least bit low your RT3 will return which is why staying on just T3

is a better optionuntil you knwo your iron is solid and staying where ti shoudl

be.

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http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

May 18, 2010

Iron 87 (range: 40-175)

TIBC 361 (range: 250-450)

Transferrin Saturation 24 (range: 15-50)

Ferritin 6 (range: 10-232)

So how loing since the iron IV? Unless your T3 was in the upper part of it's

range it wil have fallen again. T3 is what helps your body hold on to the iron.

If it si the least bit low your RT3 will return which is why staying on just T3

is a better optionuntil you knwo your iron is solid and staying where ti shoudl

be.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

May 18, 2010

I just did an iron IV two months ago and it bumped the ferritin up to 90. And

when I got the test back to verify it was up, I tried to increase T3 in

tolerable increments with your help and still my temp would drop afterward, even

though morning temp was staying consistent over days. And my brain fog was/is

horrific. I was/am on Cortef to support my adrenals. (at the time I was trying

to increase, it was 27mg, in divided dose, per your advice.)

My T3 has NEVER gotten past the mid range. Ever, since I've been monitoring it.

(in the past, nobody told me it was an issue. in fact, even the good docs don't

seem so concerned about it. thanks to you, val, i understand how it needs to be

at the upper end of the range and if T4 is low when it's not in the upper end of

the range, as is now, then that isn't okay, as it is when T3 is at the upper

end. did i just make sense?? i did in my brain fogged head!)

>

> Iron 87 (range: 40-175)

> TIBC 361 (range: 250-450)

> Transferrin Saturation 24 (range: 15-50)

> Ferritin 6 (range: 10-232)

>

> So how loing since the iron IV? Unless your T3 was in the upper part of it's

range it wil have fallen again. T3 is what helps your body hold on to the iron.

If it si the least bit low your RT3 will return which is why staying on just T3

is a better optionuntil you knwo your iron is solid and staying where ti shoudl

be.

>

> --

>

> http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

May 18, 2010