Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 " One size fits all " laws like this are never a good idea. Heck, mooning someone in some states is prosecuted as indecent exposure, which is listed in many states as a sex crime. How'd you like to be labeled for the rest of your life for baring your ass to the chemistry teacher you hated when you were a senior in high school? summedic wrote: > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and > is now in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB > 492. Authored by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone > listed as a sex offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level > EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand > that there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently > certified that this would also effect. The way the bill is written, > they would be de-certified upon their next renewal date. Some of them > have had long careers, one for over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, > but if our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they > must have gone through some sort of investigational process and have > been cleared to practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now > tell us to just throw these members of our profession away like > yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I > have a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We > were engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We > were caught in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I > was accused of Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges > dropped, but the DA's office refused to drop them. I was convicted and > have been required to register as a sex offender ever since then. In > 1999 when I first got into EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a > basic class and fell in love with medicine. When I took the test and > passed I didn't receive my certification for awhile. I had to endure a > long tedious investigational process and provide many, many letters of > reference from coworkers, friends, family, clergy, members of the > community, the sheriff, the police chief, and even my ex-wife the > alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she is the mother > of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many more > hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified > writing it, but what scares me even more is the possibility that our > state government is trying to force me to leave the profession that I > love. I live and breath EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each > day and thank God for the chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the > members of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call > one, or call all of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB > 492 as it is currently written. I am but one voice. I know what I did > was wrong in the eyes of the law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I > am now a middle-aged man with a family to support. Please feel free to > contact me if you would like more information, I have nothing left to > hide. Thank you in advance, and God bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > -- Grayson www.kellygrayson.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 , that took a lot of courage and I applaud you for that. Good luck and God speed. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of summedic Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:40 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Another Bill to consider There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for over 10 years now. I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the chance to help someone else. If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God bless you all and keep you safe. Chair: Rep. Yvonne Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado Rep. Fletcher Rep. Roland Gutierrez Rep. Carol Kent Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway Rep. Miklos Rep. a Pierson Rep. Rep. Walle McGee, EMT-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 , I do not live in Texas, but in Iowa where they are beginning the process of redoing the " sex offender " reporting laws up here...It took tremendous courage to post your experience and I applaud you for it! I know of a young couple I've had some contact with professionally that while he is not trying to get into EMS, has a story that has almost ruined a young man's life, as well as his wife and small children. They had to leave their newly purchased home because it was within certain distance to the local school. They live with her father and he has been restricted on where he can go, even within the family confines of weddings, etc, because his wife's 14 y/o niece ran and jumped on his lap and when he grabbed her to keep her from falling onto the pavement from the hay wagon, the girl's mother determined he was " copping a feel.' It was later discovered this young girl had been involved in some pretty raunchy chat rooms pretending to be 21 for quite a while so the question begs.....where was mom? Either way the damage was done to this young family. Botton line, her word against his and here, that's all it takes..he was found guilty not of sexual assault, but of improper contact with a minor..so he's registered and labeled at 24 y/o for at least 10 years unless Iowa gets their act together. These laws, while important to protect our children, are often broad in the extreme and really do not seem to cover the very serious offenders very often. I hope Texas considers ALL the variables, and doesn't emotionally make a decision that blankets an issue that should be determined on an individual case basis. Best of Luck , I truly admire the courage you displayed talking about your situation in a public forum! Jules > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 , I do not live in Texas, but in Iowa where they are beginning the process of redoing the " sex offender " reporting laws up here...It took tremendous courage to post your experience and I applaud you for it! I know of a young couple I've had some contact with professionally that while he is not trying to get into EMS, has a story that has almost ruined a young man's life, as well as his wife and small children. They had to leave their newly purchased home because it was within certain distance to the local school. They live with her father and he has been restricted on where he can go, even within the family confines of weddings, etc, because his wife's 14 y/o niece ran and jumped on his lap and when he grabbed her to keep her from falling onto the pavement from the hay wagon, the girl's mother determined he was " copping a feel.' It was later discovered this young girl had been involved in some pretty raunchy chat rooms pretending to be 21 for quite a while so the question begs.....where was mom? Either way the damage was done to this young family. Botton line, her word against his and here, that's all it takes..he was found guilty not of sexual assault, but of improper contact with a minor..so he's registered and labeled at 24 y/o for at least 10 years unless Iowa gets their act together. These laws, while important to protect our children, are often broad in the extreme and really do not seem to cover the very serious offenders very often. I hope Texas considers ALL the variables, and doesn't emotionally make a decision that blankets an issue that should be determined on an individual case basis. Best of Luck , I truly admire the courage you displayed talking about your situation in a public forum! Jules > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 , I do not live in Texas, but in Iowa where they are beginning the process of redoing the " sex offender " reporting laws up here...It took tremendous courage to post your experience and I applaud you for it! I know of a young couple I've had some contact with professionally that while he is not trying to get into EMS, has a story that has almost ruined a young man's life, as well as his wife and small children. They had to leave their newly purchased home because it was within certain distance to the local school. They live with her father and he has been restricted on where he can go, even within the family confines of weddings, etc, because his wife's 14 y/o niece ran and jumped on his lap and when he grabbed her to keep her from falling onto the pavement from the hay wagon, the girl's mother determined he was " copping a feel.' It was later discovered this young girl had been involved in some pretty raunchy chat rooms pretending to be 21 for quite a while so the question begs.....where was mom? Either way the damage was done to this young family. Botton line, her word against his and here, that's all it takes..he was found guilty not of sexual assault, but of improper contact with a minor..so he's registered and labeled at 24 y/o for at least 10 years unless Iowa gets their act together. These laws, while important to protect our children, are often broad in the extreme and really do not seem to cover the very serious offenders very often. I hope Texas considers ALL the variables, and doesn't emotionally make a decision that blankets an issue that should be determined on an individual case basis. Best of Luck , I truly admire the courage you displayed talking about your situation in a public forum! Jules > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Other examples of gross injustice in this arena but what could have ruined an EMS career: A young father was involved in a nasty divorce and custody case. The soon-to-be ex-wife makes an accusation that the father had sexual contact with the daughter to get custody. The father even was placed in jail after the complaint was made, and he almost lost his job. If it wasn't for the fact that he had family with money who were able to hire the best lawyers and psychiatrists to evaluate all THREE (father, mother and daugther and who determined not only that the child did NOT suffer sexual abuse from the father but that the MOTHER needed counseling), he would have most likely been found guilty and his life ruined. He is still heavily involved in EMS today and is a threat to no one. In another nasty divorce and custody case, the mother suddenly claimed that the 12 year old son sexually molested the 6 year old daughter - again in an attempt to get custody of the daughter. She claimed this happened while they were in the care of the soon-to-be ex-husband. Psychiatrists evaluated the family in this case as well and found that the abuse did not occur. However, the judge ruled anyway in favor of the mother stating, " a girl is better off with her mother. " The young man is currently in class to become an EMT. In both of these cases, nothing was filed that the accused was a " sexual " predator. However, it could have gone the other way easily and does almost every day. Many judges over-react the OPPOSITE way in these situations and do not adequately evaluate or force adequate investigations to prove whether the allegation is true - they rule in " the best interest of the child " convincing themselves that they are keeping the child safe even though the accusation may not be valid. Some of these judges have the mentalitiy, even today, that little girls are better off with their mothers and use this as an excuse to rule that way. Others may have suffered sexual abuse themselves when they were children so they are convinced that " where there is smoke there is fire " , and the father is found guilty. I think that if someone is on that list, yes, the state has a responsibility to ensure public safety by following their criminal history evaluation process thoroughly. That system is not flawless, but it works most of the time. It does allow for the case to be looked at individually and to evaluate the whole situation to determine if that person is a threat to public safety. This idea of passing laws that indiscriminately bar EVERYONE in a group or class from becoming certified or licensed without evaluation of the circumstances at a later date only achieves one thing - saving the state more money. It does NOT provide more safety than the current system. It would only potentially preclude individuals who MAY not be a threat any longer or were never a threat but were the victims of the system. Believe me, I am one of the FIRST in line to want and even demand that our state officials try their best to keep sexual predators from having potential contact with more potential victims. I would say that a good segment of the female population in Texas have been victims at one time or another in their lives - and possibly the male population as well. But a sweeping law like this will NOT achieve what they are wanting to try and achieve. Just my opinion, Jane Dinsmore To: texasems-l From: jkaymdc@... Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:37:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Another Bill to consider , I do not live in Texas, but in Iowa where they are beginning the process of redoing the " sex offender " reporting laws up here...It took tremendous courage to post your experience and I applaud you for it! I know of a young couple I've had some contact with professionally that while he is not trying to get into EMS, has a story that has almost ruined a young man's life, as well as his wife and small children. They had to leave their newly purchased home because it was within certain distance to the local school. They live with her father and he has been restricted on where he can go, even within the family confines of weddings, etc, because his wife's 14 y/o niece ran and jumped on his lap and when he grabbed her to keep her from falling onto the pavement from the hay wagon, the girl's mother determined he was " copping a feel.' It was later discovered this young girl had been involved in some pretty raunchy chat rooms pretending to be 21 for quite a while so the question begs.....where was mom? Either way the damage was done to this young family. Botton line, her word against his and here, that's all it takes..he was found guilty not of sexual assault, but of improper contact with a minor..so he's registered and labeled at 24 y/o for at least 10 years unless Iowa gets their act together. These laws, while important to protect our children, are often broad in the extreme and really do not seem to cover the very serious offenders very often. I hope Texas considers ALL the variables, and doesn't emotionally make a decision that blankets an issue that should be determined on an individual case basis. Best of Luck , I truly admire the courage you displayed talking about your situation in a public forum! Jules > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 , Good luck from me also. When I was a District Attorney in Fannin County, TX, back in 1979-81, I had many cases such as yours before me. I declined to prosecute them in almost every case because I recognized that the law had not kept up with societal mores, and it was unduly punitive for actions that were not dangerous. Often I would ask the Grand Jury to make the determination, and almost always it would decline to indict a person who had done what you have confessed to have done. There's a tremendous difference between a sexual predator and a kid who falls in love with a kid who's a minor and nature takes its course. Our society has always tried to impose artificial constraints upon human behavior without trying to understand it. Bad politicians have always used hot-button issues such as sexual misconduct to further their private interests, which are to get elected to a public office and stay there, sucking at the public teat. Unfortunately, there are a lot of hypocrites who use their religious and " moral " sanctimony to advance their own political careers. More unfortunately, too many of us choose to throw stones rather than try to understand what happens in sexual activities. Study sexual deviation, and you'll find out soon that " Romeo and t " relationships are NOT dangerous, do not lead to sex crimes, and so forth. But our outdated, narrow, and ill-advised laws often make criminals out of people who only made a small mistake. GG > > > > , that took a lot of courage and I applaud you for that. Good luck > and God speed. > > Barry > > Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES > > Program Coordinator > > Tobacco Prevention & Control > > Texas Dept. of State Health Services > > > > Barry.Sharp@... > > PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: > > P.O. Box 149347 > > Mail Code 2018 > > Austin, Texas 78714-9347 > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > Behalf Of summedic > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:40 AM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: Another Bill to consider > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is > now in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. > Authored by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed > as a sex offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS > provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that > this would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be > de-certified upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long > careers, one for over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but > if our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must > have gone through some sort of investigational process and have been > cleared to practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us > to just throw these members of our profession away like yesterday's > newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I > have a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were > caught in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was > accused of Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, > but the DA's office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been > required to register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I > first got into EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class > and fell in love with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't > receive my certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious > investigational process and provide many, many letters of reference from > coworkers, friends, family, clergy, members of the community, the > sheriff, the police chief, and even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, > we were married for 5 years and she is the mother of my son. When I > upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many more hurdles to jump for > National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I passed, but they > initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing > it, but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state > government is trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I > live and breath EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and > thank God for the chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the > members of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, > or call all of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as > it is currently written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong > in the eyes of the law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a > middle-aged man with a family to support. Please feel free to contact me > if you would like more information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank > you in advance, and God bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 , Good luck from me also. When I was a District Attorney in Fannin County, TX, back in 1979-81, I had many cases such as yours before me. I declined to prosecute them in almost every case because I recognized that the law had not kept up with societal mores, and it was unduly punitive for actions that were not dangerous. Often I would ask the Grand Jury to make the determination, and almost always it would decline to indict a person who had done what you have confessed to have done. There's a tremendous difference between a sexual predator and a kid who falls in love with a kid who's a minor and nature takes its course. Our society has always tried to impose artificial constraints upon human behavior without trying to understand it. Bad politicians have always used hot-button issues such as sexual misconduct to further their private interests, which are to get elected to a public office and stay there, sucking at the public teat. Unfortunately, there are a lot of hypocrites who use their religious and " moral " sanctimony to advance their own political careers. More unfortunately, too many of us choose to throw stones rather than try to understand what happens in sexual activities. Study sexual deviation, and you'll find out soon that " Romeo and t " relationships are NOT dangerous, do not lead to sex crimes, and so forth. But our outdated, narrow, and ill-advised laws often make criminals out of people who only made a small mistake. GG > > > > , that took a lot of courage and I applaud you for that. Good luck > and God speed. > > Barry > > Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES > > Program Coordinator > > Tobacco Prevention & Control > > Texas Dept. of State Health Services > > > > Barry.Sharp@... > > PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: > > P.O. Box 149347 > > Mail Code 2018 > > Austin, Texas 78714-9347 > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > Behalf Of summedic > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:40 AM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: Another Bill to consider > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is > now in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. > Authored by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed > as a sex offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS > provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that > this would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be > de-certified upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long > careers, one for over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but > if our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must > have gone through some sort of investigational process and have been > cleared to practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us > to just throw these members of our profession away like yesterday's > newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I > have a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were > caught in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was > accused of Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, > but the DA's office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been > required to register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I > first got into EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class > and fell in love with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't > receive my certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious > investigational process and provide many, many letters of reference from > coworkers, friends, family, clergy, members of the community, the > sheriff, the police chief, and even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, > we were married for 5 years and she is the mother of my son. When I > upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many more hurdles to jump for > National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I passed, but they > initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing > it, but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state > government is trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I > live and breath EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and > thank God for the chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the > members of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, > or call all of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as > it is currently written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong > in the eyes of the law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a > middle-aged man with a family to support. Please feel free to contact me > if you would like more information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank > you in advance, and God bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009  Jane,          I totally agree. You make some very valid points. I know of a Paramedic who was accused of telephone harrassment. He had to post bond and report every two weeks to the court his whereabouts(?). After eight months of waitng, it went to court. There, the young lady who filed the complaint, had reconciled with this gentleman and dropped charges the day it was to go before the courts. This was 14 years ago, and every time he has to recertify, his application is held up because of this " charge " still reflecting on his record! He has to produce documentation that it truly was dropped! I know someone out there will say he should have dropped this lady like a hot potato, but WE were not there and know the whole story!          He is still in EMS today and they are both married to each other with three beautiful children.          LIFE CAN BE BRUTAL!    > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009  Jane,          I totally agree. You make some very valid points. I know of a Paramedic who was accused of telephone harrassment. He had to post bond and report every two weeks to the court his whereabouts(?). After eight months of waitng, it went to court. There, the young lady who filed the complaint, had reconciled with this gentleman and dropped charges the day it was to go before the courts. This was 14 years ago, and every time he has to recertify, his application is held up because of this " charge " still reflecting on his record! He has to produce documentation that it truly was dropped! I know someone out there will say he should have dropped this lady like a hot potato, but WE were not there and know the whole story!          He is still in EMS today and they are both married to each other with three beautiful children.          LIFE CAN BE BRUTAL!    > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009  Jane,          I totally agree. You make some very valid points. I know of a Paramedic who was accused of telephone harrassment. He had to post bond and report every two weeks to the court his whereabouts(?). After eight months of waitng, it went to court. There, the young lady who filed the complaint, had reconciled with this gentleman and dropped charges the day it was to go before the courts. This was 14 years ago, and every time he has to recertify, his application is held up because of this " charge " still reflecting on his record! He has to produce documentation that it truly was dropped! I know someone out there will say he should have dropped this lady like a hot potato, but WE were not there and know the whole story!          He is still in EMS today and they are both married to each other with three beautiful children.          LIFE CAN BE BRUTAL!    > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have received many positive responses from this posting, both here and offline. I want to thank you all that have responded. Right now in my life, due to the situation I am in, I need all the support I can get. I would just ask one more favor of you all, please forward this email to everyone you know. As numerous as we are on this list, there are many more certified personel that are not. The more people that know about this bill the better. Thank you all again. RE: Another Bill to consider  Jane,          I totally agree. You make some very valid points. I know of a Paramedic who was accused of telephone harrassment. He had to post bond and report every two weeks to the court his whereabouts(?). After eight months of waitng, it went to court. There, the young lady who filed the complaint, had reconciled with this gentleman and dropped charges the day it was to go before the courts. This was 14 years ago, and every time he has to recertify, his application is held up because of this " charge " still reflecting on his record! He has to produce documentation that it truly was dropped! I know someone out there will say he should have dropped this lady like a hot potato, but WE were not there and know the whole story!          He is still in EMS today and they are both married to each other with three beautiful children.          LIFE CAN BE BRUTAL!    > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is now > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. Authored > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed as a sex > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS provider. > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that this > would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be de-certified > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long careers, one for > over 10 years now. > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but if > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must have > gone through some sort of investigational process and have been cleared to > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us to just throw > these members of our profession away like yesterday's newspaper? > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I have > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were caught > in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was accused of > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, but the DA's > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been required to > register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I first got into > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class and fell in love > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't receive my > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious investigational > process and provide many, many letters of reference from coworkers, friends, > family, clergy, members of the community, the sheriff, the police chief, and > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were married for 5 years and she > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I > passed, but they initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing it, > but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state government is > trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I live and breath > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and thank God for the > chance to help someone else. > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the members > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, or call all > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as it is currently > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong in the eyes of the > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a middle-aged man with a > family to support. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank you in advance, and God > bless you all and keep you safe. > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > Rep. Fletcher > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > Rep. Carol Kent > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > Rep. Miklos > Rep. a Pierson > Rep. > Rep. Walle > > McGee, EMT-P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Do you have any objection to having your email forwarded to the Representatives on the committee? Maxine Pate hire, Texas ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:49:18 -0500 > >Subject: RE: Another Bill to consider >To: texasems-l > > > I have received many positive responses from this > posting, both here and offline. I want to thank you > all that have responded. Right now in my life, due > to the situation I am in, I need all the support I > can get. I would just ask one more favor of you all, > please forward this email to everyone you know. As > numerous as we are on this list, there are many more > certified personel that are not. The more people > that know about this bill the better. Thank you all > again. > > RE: Another Bill to consider > >  > Jane, >  >         I totally agree. You make some very > valid points. I know of a Paramedic who was accused > of telephone harrassment. He had to post bond and > report every two weeks to the court his > whereabouts(?). After eight months of waitng, it > went to court. There, the young lady who filed the > complaint, had reconciled with this gentleman and > dropped charges the day it was to go before the > courts. This was 14 years ago, and every time he has > to recertify, his application is held up because of > this " charge " still reflecting on his record! He has > to produce documentation that it truly was > dropped! I know someone out there will say he > should have dropped this lady like a hot potato, but > WE were not there and know the whole story! >          He is still in EMS today and they > are both married to each other with three beautiful > children. >          LIFE CAN BE BRUTAL! >  >  >  > > > > > > > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has > past the Senate, and is now > > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for > review. It is SB 492. Authored > > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit > anyone listed as a sex > > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any > level EMS provider. > > > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, > but I understand that > > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are > currently certified that this > > would also effect. The way the bill is written, > they would be de-certified > > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have > had long careers, one for > > over 10 years now. > > > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long > ago it happened, but if > > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first > place then they must have > > gone through some sort of investigational process > and have been cleared to > > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to > now tell us to just throw > > these members of our profession away like > yesterday's newspaper? > > > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most > of you don't, but I have > > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one > of those > > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year > old girlfriend. We were > > engaged to be married and I had given her my > mother's ring. We were caught > > in bed by her aunt while her family went on > vaction and I was accused of > > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the > charges dropped, but the DA's > > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and > have been required to > > register as a sex offender ever since then. In > 1999 when I first got into > > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic > class and fell in love > > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I > didn't receive my > > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long > tedious investigational > > process and provide many, many letters of > reference from coworkers, friends, > > family, clergy, members of the community, the > sheriff, the police chief, and > > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were > married for 5 years and she > > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to > paramedic in 2006, I had many > > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even > grade my exam. I knew I > > passed, but they initally refused to grade it > based on my past. > > > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that > you have continued > > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I > was terrified writing it, > > but what scares me even more is the possibility > that our state government is > > trying to force me to leave the profession that I > love. I live and breath > > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day > and thank God for the > > chance to help someone else. > > > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to > please contact the members > > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed > below. Call one, or call all > > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose > SB 492 as it is currently > > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was > wrong in the eyes of the > > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a > middle-aged man with a > > family to support. Please feel free to contact me > if you would like more > > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank > you in advance, and God > > bless you all and keep you safe. > > > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > > Rep. Fletcher > > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > > Rep. Carol Kent > > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > > Rep. Miklos > > Rep. a Pierson > > Rep. > > Rep. Walle > > > > McGee, EMT-P > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right > in your inbox. > http://windowslive. com/RediscoverHo tmail?ocid= > TXT_TAGLM_ WL_HM_Rediscover _Updates2_ 042009 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 No, I do not have any objection. But, I have already called, emailed and written every member of the Texas Senate and House of Representatives individually. But I am but only one voice, I need many more to stand in opposition to SB 492, before they will all listen. As with most items, majority rules. Thanks again for all the help and God bless you all. RE: Another Bill to consider > >  > Jane, >  >         I totally agree. You make some very > valid points. I know of a Paramedic who was accused > of telephone harrassment. He had to post bond and > report every two weeks to the court his > whereabouts(?). After eight months of waitng, it > went to court. There, the young lady who filed the > complaint, had reconciled with this gentleman and > dropped charges the day it was to go before the > courts. This was 14 years ago, and every time he has > to recertify, his application is held up because of > this " charge " still reflecting on his record! He has > to produce documentation that it truly was > dropped! I know someone out there will say he > should have dropped this lady like a hot potato, but > WE were not there and know the whole story! >          He is still in EMS today and they > are both married to each other with three beautiful > children. >          LIFE CAN BE BRUTAL! >  >  >  > > > > > > > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has > past the Senate, and is now > > in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for > review. It is SB 492. Authored > > by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit > anyone listed as a sex > > offender from being certified by TDSHS as any > level EMS provider. > > > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, > but I understand that > > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are > currently certified that this > > would also effect. The way the bill is written, > they would be de-certified > > upon their next renewal date. Some of them have > had long careers, one for > > over 10 years now. > > > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long > ago it happened, but if > > our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first > place then they must have > > gone through some sort of investigational process > and have been cleared to > > practice. Is it right for our elected officals to > now tell us to just throw > > these members of our profession away like > yesterday's newspaper? > > > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most > of you don't, but I have > > a confession to make to this entire list. I am one > of those > > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year > old girlfriend. We were > > engaged to be married and I had given her my > mother's ring. We were caught > > in bed by her aunt while her family went on > vaction and I was accused of > > Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the > charges dropped, but the DA's > > office refused to drop them. I was convicted and > have been required to > > register as a sex offender ever since then. In > 1999 when I first got into > > EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic > class and fell in love > > with medicine. When I took the test and passed I > didn't receive my > > certification for awhile. I had to endure a long > tedious investigational > > process and provide many, many letters of > reference from coworkers, friends, > > family, clergy, members of the community, the > sheriff, the police chief, and > > even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, we were > married for 5 years and she > > is the mother of my son. When I upgraded to > paramedic in 2006, I had many > > more hurdles to jump for National Registry to even > grade my exam. I knew I > > passed, but they initally refused to grade it > based on my past. > > > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that > you have continued > > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I > was terrified writing it, > > but what scares me even more is the possibility > that our state government is > > trying to force me to leave the profession that I > love. I live and breath > > EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day > and thank God for the > > chance to help someone else. > > > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to > please contact the members > > of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed > below. Call one, or call all > > of them, but please call and tell them you oppose > SB 492 as it is currently > > written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was > wrong in the eyes of the > > law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a > middle-aged man with a > > family to support. Please feel free to contact me > if you would like more > > information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank > you in advance, and God > > bless you all and keep you safe. > > > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > > Rep. Fletcher > > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > > Rep. Carol Kent > > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > > Rep. Miklos > > Rep. a Pierson > > Rep. > > Rep. Walle > > > > McGee, EMT-P > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right > in your inbox. > http://windowslive. com/RediscoverHo tmail?ocid= > TXT_TAGLM_ WL_HM_Rediscover _Updates2_ 042009 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I certainly empathize with you. This is a terrible, unneeded bill. I am afraid that it will pass because of hysteria, however. I hope not. Please keep us posted on what happens. GG > > > > Gene, > Thank you very much for your response. I value youir opinion very much. I > am currently working (pro se) to try and remove myself from the " sex > offender " requirement, with a petition I have written to the courts. I don't know > if they will approve it, and I don " t know if it will be in time, but I > have to try everything. I am afraid that my state's government doesn't want me > around anymore in public view, they would have me digging ditches or > picking up trash. I don't mind telling you I am scared. Not just for myself, I > am a grown man, I can go flip burgers if I have to, but for my family. What > kind of lesson is this showing my 12 year old son? Live your life well, > care about others, help as much as you can, and get shafted by your own > government. What a life lesson to learn. Sorry, I am just hurting inside, and I > don't know what to do about it. Thanks again everyone for the help, and > please forward to everyone you know. I really need the help. > > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem, wegandy1938@, wegandy1 > > > > , > > > > Good luck from me also. When I was a District Attorney in Fannin County, > > TX, back in 1979-81, I had many cases such as yours before me. I > declined > > to prosecute them in almost every case because I recognized that the law > had > > not kept up with societal mores, and it was unduly punitive for actions > > that were not dangerous. Often I would ask the Grand Jury to make the > > determination, and almost always it would decline to indict a person who > had done > > what you have confessed to have done. > > > > There's a tremendous difference between a sexual predator and a kid who > > falls in love with a kid who's a minor and nature takes its course. > > > > Our society has always tried to impose artificial constraints upon human > > behavior without trying to understand it. Bad politicians have always > used > > hot-button issues such as sexual misconduct to further their private > > interests, which are to get elected to a public office and stay there, > sucking at > > the public teat. > > > > Unfortunately, there are a lot of hypocrites who use their religious and > > " moral " sanctimony to advance their own political careers. More > > unfortunately, too many of us choose to throw stones rather than try to > understand what > > happens in sexual activities. > > > > Study sexual deviation, and you'll find out soon that " Romeo and t " > > relationships are NOT dangerous, do not lead to sex crimes, and so > forth. > > But our outdated, narrow, and ill-advised laws often make criminals out > of > > people who only made a small mistake. > > > > GG > > > > > > In a message dated 4/24/09 7:08:59 AM, barry.sharp@ In a messa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , that took a lot of courage and I applaud you for that. Good > luck > > > and God speed. > > > > > > Barry > > > > > > Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES > > > > > > Program Coordinator > > > > > > Tobacco Prevention & Control > > > > > > Texas Dept. of State Health Services > > > > > > > > > > > > Barry.Sharp@ Ba > > > > > > PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: > > > > > > P.O. Box 149347 > > > > > > Mail Code 2018 > > > > > > Austin, Texas 78714-9347 > > > > > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > > > > > From: texasems-l@yahoogro From: texasems-l@yahoogr From: texasems- > From > > > Behalf Of summedic > > > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:40 AM > > > To: texasems-l@yahoogro To: te > > > Subject: Another Bill to consider > > > > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and > is > > > now in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. > > > Authored by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed > > > as a sex offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS > > > provider. > > > > > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand > that > > > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified > that > > > this would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be > > > de-certified upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long > > > careers, one for over 10 years now. > > > > > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, > but > > > if our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must > > > have gone through some sort of investigational process and have been > > > cleared to practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell > us > > > to just throw these members of our profession away like yesterday's > > > newspaper? > > > > > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I > > > have a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > > > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We > were > > > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were > > > caught in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was > > > accused of Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges > dropped, > > > but the DA's office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have > been > > > required to register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I > > > first got into EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class > > > and fell in love with medicine. When I took the test and passed I > didn't > > > receive my certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious > > > > > investigational process and provide many, many letters of reference > from > > > coworkers, friends, family, clergy, members of the community, the > > > sheriff, the police chief, and even my ex-wife the alleged victim. > Yes, > > > we were married for 5 years and she is the mother of my son. When I > > > upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many more hurdles to jump for > > > National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I passed, but they > > > initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > > > > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > > > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified > writing > > > it, but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state > > > government is trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. > I > > > live and breath EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and > > > thank God for the chance to help someone else. > > > > > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the > > > members of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call > one, > > > or call all of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 > as > > > it is currently written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was > wrong > > > in the eyes of the law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a > > > middle-aged man with a family to support. Please feel free to contact > me > > > if you would like more information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank > > > you in advance, and God bless you all and keep you safe. > > > > > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > > > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > > > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > > > Rep. Fletcher > > > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > > > Rep. Carol Kent > > > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > > > Rep. Miklos > > > Rep. a Pierson > > > Rep. > > > Rep. Walle > > > > > > McGee, EMT-P > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Gene, Thank you very much for your response. I value youir opinion very much. I am currently working (pro se) to try and remove myself from the " sex offender " requirement, with a petition I have written to the courts. I don't know if they will approve it, and I don " t know if it will be in time, but I have to try everything. I am afraid that my state's government doesn't want me around anymore in public view, they would have me digging ditches or picking up trash. I don't mind telling you I am scared. Not just for myself, I am a grown man, I can go flip burgers if I have to, but for my family. What kind of lesson is this showing my 12 year old son? Live your life well, care about others, help as much as you can, and get shafted by your own government. What a life lesson to learn. Sorry, I am just hurting inside, and I don't know what to do about it. Thanks again everyone for the help, and please forward to everyone you know. I really need the help. > > , > > Good luck from me also. When I was a District Attorney in Fannin County, > TX, back in 1979-81, I had many cases such as yours before me. I declined > to prosecute them in almost every case because I recognized that the law had > not kept up with societal mores, and it was unduly punitive for actions > that were not dangerous. Often I would ask the Grand Jury to make the > determination, and almost always it would decline to indict a person who had done > what you have confessed to have done. > > There's a tremendous difference between a sexual predator and a kid who > falls in love with a kid who's a minor and nature takes its course. > > Our society has always tried to impose artificial constraints upon human > behavior without trying to understand it. Bad politicians have always used > hot-button issues such as sexual misconduct to further their private > interests, which are to get elected to a public office and stay there, sucking at > the public teat. > > Unfortunately, there are a lot of hypocrites who use their religious and > " moral " sanctimony to advance their own political careers. More > unfortunately, too many of us choose to throw stones rather than try to understand what > happens in sexual activities. > > Study sexual deviation, and you'll find out soon that " Romeo and t " > relationships are NOT dangerous, do not lead to sex crimes, and so forth. > But our outdated, narrow, and ill-advised laws often make criminals out of > people who only made a small mistake. > > GG > > > > > > > > > > > > > , that took a lot of courage and I applaud you for that. Good luck > > and God speed. > > > > Barry > > > > Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES > > > > Program Coordinator > > > > Tobacco Prevention & Control > > > > Texas Dept. of State Health Services > > > > > > > > Barry.Sharp@... > > > > PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: > > > > P.O. Box 149347 > > > > Mail Code 2018 > > > > Austin, Texas 78714-9347 > > > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > > Behalf Of summedic > > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:40 AM > > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > > Subject: Another Bill to consider > > > > There is another bill dealing with EMS that has past the Senate, and is > > now in the House Committee on Urban Affairs for review. It is SB 492. > > Authored by Senator Jane , it proposes to prohibit anyone listed > > as a sex offender from being certified by TDSHS as any level EMS > > provider. > > > > Now at face value, this sounds like a great idea, but I understand that > > there are 8 individuals here in Texas that are currently certified that > > this would also effect. The way the bill is written, they would be > > de-certified upon their next renewal date. Some of them have had long > > careers, one for over 10 years now. > > > > I don't pretend to know what they did, or how long ago it happened, but > > if our TDSHS saw fit to certify them in the first place then they must > > have gone through some sort of investigational process and have been > > cleared to practice. Is it right for our elected officals to now tell us > > to just throw these members of our profession away like yesterday's > > newspaper? > > > > Some of you on this list know me personally, most of you don't, but I > > have a confession to make to this entire list. I am one of those > > " Texas 8 " . In 1985 I was 18 and I had a 14 year old girlfriend. We were > > engaged to be married and I had given her my mother's ring. We were > > caught in bed by her aunt while her family went on vaction and I was > > accused of Sexual Assault. The family tried to get the charges dropped, > > but the DA's office refused to drop them. I was convicted and have been > > required to register as a sex offender ever since then. In 1999 when I > > first got into EMS I was a volunteer firefighter. I took a basic class > > and fell in love with medicine. When I took the test and passed I didn't > > receive my certification for awhile. I had to endure a long tedious > > > investigational process and provide many, many letters of reference from > > coworkers, friends, family, clergy, members of the community, the > > sheriff, the police chief, and even my ex-wife the alleged victim. Yes, > > we were married for 5 years and she is the mother of my son. When I > > upgraded to paramedic in 2006, I had many more hurdles to jump for > > National Registry to even grade my exam. I knew I passed, but they > > initally refused to grade it based on my past. > > > > I hope that I haven't scared anyone off, and that you have continued > > reading this post. I don't mind telling you that I was terrified writing > > it, but what scares me even more is the possibility that our state > > government is trying to force me to leave the profession that I love. I > > live and breath EMS, just ask my current wife. I get up each day and > > thank God for the chance to help someone else. > > > > If you would like to help me, I would ask you to please contact the > > members of the House Committee on Urban Affairs listed below. Call one, > > or call all of them, but please call and tell them you oppose SB 492 as > > it is currently written. I am but one voice. I know what I did was wrong > > in the eyes of the law, but it was an adolesent mistake. I am now a > > middle-aged man with a family to support. Please feel free to contact me > > if you would like more information, I have nothing left to hide. Thank > > you in advance, and God bless you all and keep you safe. > > > > Chair: Rep. Yvonne > > Vice Chair: Rep. Charlie F. > > Members: Rep. Carol Alvarado > > Rep. Fletcher > > Rep. Roland Gutierrez > > Rep. Carol Kent > > Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway > > Rep. Miklos > > Rep. a Pierson > > Rep. > > Rep. Walle > > > > McGee, EMT-P > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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