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Dear Olif,

Have you had your adrenals checked often you can not

take thyroid hormones unless the adrenals are supported.

If not you may need a 24 hour saliva test done.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/

Go here and do the adrenal self test

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

Metabolic Scorecard

-- fine tremors

I have been having fine tremors for probably over a month now. I am getting

concerned but don't know what to do about them or what the cause is.

When they started, I was unknowingly taking too much thyroid hormone. I also

had nervousness and more sweating. I stopped all thyroid hormone about 3-4

weeks ago. The nervousness/sweating has long been gone, but these tremors

are still here.

I will try to describe them the best I can, because I know there are

different types. I see them when I extend my arms/hands. It isn't isolated

to my hands though- I feel it in my entire body. In my legs they almost feel

like muscle spasms. It feels like my nerves are " on " all the time, like the

off switch " is broken. When I wear something dangling from my waist, like a

loose belt, I can see the tremors in the belt. So it is definitely in my

entire body.

I feel it when I awaken in the middle of the night too. I feel it more

intensely then, but I think this is because I am more relaxed and sensitive,

not because they are actually worse then.

I have no nervousness, insomnia, etc.

It might be worse after I drink my green tea (caffeine) in the morning, but

I am not sure.

Andy says to try glycine on p. 128 of AI, but I have no idea what kind of

tremors I am even having. I am also gluten free, which is mentioned. I don't

have " course, jerky movements " with the tremors that Andy mentions on p.28

of AI. These are very fine tremors that I probably only notice myself,

unless I point it out to someone.

I am taking 800 IU vit. E, lots of B's (including active B6), about 3-4 g

vit C, 600 mg magnesium/calcium each. I am not taking a lot of fish oil or

flax, because I have been back and forth on whether or not these are good

due to oxidative stress. I do take cod liver oil though, providing roughly

15,000 IU vit A and 1500 IU vit D.

My doctor thought maybe there were issues with my dopamine (she didn't

suggest high or low and I didn't ask), but this was a few weeks ago, before

I quit the Armour. I wasn't quite as concerned then, because I had other

symptoms of thyrotoxicosis.

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated!

-Olif

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" Have you had your adrenals checked often you can not

take thyroid hormones unless the adrenals are supported. "

Yeah, I've been on HC- about 25 mg. I have even tried weaning off that, thinking

too much would be causing these tremors. I am down to 7.5 mg and still having

tremors.

-Olif

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Olif,

I haven't been active in this group for a long time, but I happen to catch this

message, and I seen your doctor mentioned " dopamine " . I don't know if he told

you this, but the part of the brain that produces dopamine is what is damaged or

not working properly in people who have Parkinson's Disease. I don't want to

alarm you, but you may want to start researching that. And I can't promise you

that I will be on much to respond, because my mother just passed away recently,

but I wanted to point out this connection between tremors and low dopamine.

Good luck.

Jackie

fine tremors

I have been having fine tremors for probably over a month now. I am getting

concerned but don't know what to do about them or what the cause is.

When they started, I was unknowingly taking too much thyroid hormone. I also

had nervousness and more sweating. I stopped all thyroid hormone about 3-4 weeks

ago. The nervousness/sweating has long been gone, but these tremors are still

here.

I will try to describe them the best I can, because I know there are different

types. I see them when I extend my arms/hands. It isn't isolated to my hands

though- I feel it in my entire body. In my legs they almost feel like muscle

spasms. It feels like my nerves are " on " all the time, like the " off switch " is

broken. When I wear something dangling from my waist, like a loose belt, I can

see the tremors in the belt. So it is definitely in my entire body.

I feel it when I awaken in the middle of the night too. I feel it more

intensely then, but I think this is because I am more relaxed and sensitive, not

because they are actually worse then.

I have no nervousness, insomnia, etc.

It might be worse after I drink my green tea (caffeine) in the morning, but I

am not sure.

Andy says to try glycine on p. 128 of AI, but I have no idea what kind of

tremors I am even having. I am also gluten free, which is mentioned. I don't

have " course, jerky movements " with the tremors that Andy mentions on p.28 of

AI. These are very fine tremors that I probably only notice myself, unless I

point it out to someone.

I am taking 800 IU vit. E, lots of B's (including active B6), about 3-4 g vit

C, 600 mg magnesium/calcium each. I am not taking a lot of fish oil or flax,

because I have been back and forth on whether or not these are good due to

oxidative stress. I do take cod liver oil though, providing roughly 15,000 IU

vit A and 1500 IU vit D.

My doctor thought maybe there were issues with my dopamine (she didn't suggest

high or low and I didn't ask), but this was a few weeks ago, before I quit the

Armour. I wasn't quite as concerned then, because I had other symptoms of

thyrotoxicosis.

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated!

-Olif

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Olif,

Sorry to tell you this too little HC causes tremors along

with shakiness.

How do you take it 3 or 4 times a day?

Are you using supporting herbs and vitamins.

You need 1,500 Pantothenic acid

Some of that can be gotten naturally in Yerba Mate

it has 196 active components, 26 vitamins, 15 amino

acide.

One serving the traditional way used all day

of 2/3 of a mate supplies 750 mg of pantothenic acid

If interested will send you links for information along

with the best place to order it. Tell them sent

you. It last a long time for one person little over 3 weeks.

Cost around $2.00 a week with shipping.

Have you tied adding Licorice solid extract only use if you do not

have high blood pressure if it starts to rise just leave it off

once a week then watch it very carefully..

If interested can send information on a group that can give you much

more information as well as solutions.

-- Re: fine tremors

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" Have you had your adrenals checked often you can not

take thyroid hormones unless the adrenals are supported. "

Yeah, I've been on HC- about 25 mg. I have even tried weaning off that,

thinking too much would be causing these tremors. I am down to 7.5 mg and

still having tremors.

-Olif

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Thanks, .

I really don't think this is related to my adrenals or my thyroid. I have the

same tremors on 27.5 mg HC (spread 4-5 times daily) as I do on 7.5 mg. If I

stress dose HC, the tremors don't go away either. It doesn't come on in between

doses- it is constant.

I am on pantothenic acid, C, active B-6, etc.

I really think this is due to something else, but I don't know where to look.

I guess I should look into having my neurotransmitters tested, and hope my

doctor knows what tests to run after that. Maybe I will try some tyrosine (to

raise dopamine) to see if that helps...

I recently had biomeridian testing done, which showed both my adrenal and

bladder nerve readings were high. The lady insisted it was due to a fall, and I

did fall around the time I had started having the tremors. I didn't fall badly

or land on my back. I just tripped and fell. I am not sure if the readings on

the test are even related to my body tremors though.

Thanks,

Olif

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Thanks, .

I really don't think this is related to my adrenals or my thyroid. I have the

same tremors on 27.5 mg HC (spread 4-5 times daily) as I do on 7.5 mg. If I

stress dose HC, the tremors don't go away either. It doesn't come on in between

doses- it is constant.

I am on pantothenic acid, C, active B-6, etc.

I really think this is due to something else, but I don't know where to look.

I guess I should look into having my neurotransmitters tested, and hope my

doctor knows what tests to run after that. Maybe I will try some tyrosine (to

raise dopamine) to see if that helps...

I recently had biomeridian testing done, which showed both my adrenal and

bladder nerve readings were high. The lady insisted it was due to a fall, and I

did fall around the time I had started having the tremors. I didn't fall badly

or land on my back. I just tripped and fell. I am not sure if the readings on

the test are even related to my body tremors though.

Thanks,

Olif

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Dear Olif,

Could be low sodium or low aldosterone. Low sodium can cause a constant

tremor that never stops.

Try a salt water flush

1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in a glass of 16 ounces of water.

For now use table salt if you do not have sea salt however

if it works you will need to get sea salt as table salt is not

good for the body.

If it works for you it can be done several times a day.

If this does not work you may need to see a doctor as

there are many things that can cause tremors.

Some people take a medication aldosterone to replace

others choose to use sea salt and water.

-- Re: fine tremors

Thanks, .

I really don't think this is related to my adrenals or my thyroid. I have

the same tremors on 27.5 mg HC (spread 4-5 times daily) as I do on 7.5 mg.

If I stress dose HC, the tremors don't go away either. It doesn't come on in

between doses- it is constant.

I am on pantothenic acid, C, active B-6, etc.

I really think this is due to something else, but I don't know where to look

I guess I should look into having my neurotransmitters tested, and hope my

doctor knows what tests to run after that. Maybe I will try some tyrosine

(to raise dopamine) to see if that helps...

I recently had biomeridian testing done, which showed both my adrenal and

bladder nerve readings were high. The lady insisted it was due to a fall,

and I did fall around the time I had started having the tremors. I didn't

fall badly or land on my back. I just tripped and fell. I am not sure if the

readings on the test are even related to my body tremors though.

Thanks,

Olif

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Dear Olif,

Could be low sodium or low aldosterone. Low sodium can cause a constant

tremor that never stops.

Try a salt water flush

1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in a glass of 16 ounces of water.

For now use table salt if you do not have sea salt however

if it works you will need to get sea salt as table salt is not

good for the body.

If it works for you it can be done several times a day.

If this does not work you may need to see a doctor as

there are many things that can cause tremors.

Some people take a medication aldosterone to replace

others choose to use sea salt and water.

-- Re: fine tremors

Thanks, .

I really don't think this is related to my adrenals or my thyroid. I have

the same tremors on 27.5 mg HC (spread 4-5 times daily) as I do on 7.5 mg.

If I stress dose HC, the tremors don't go away either. It doesn't come on in

between doses- it is constant.

I am on pantothenic acid, C, active B-6, etc.

I really think this is due to something else, but I don't know where to look

I guess I should look into having my neurotransmitters tested, and hope my

doctor knows what tests to run after that. Maybe I will try some tyrosine

(to raise dopamine) to see if that helps...

I recently had biomeridian testing done, which showed both my adrenal and

bladder nerve readings were high. The lady insisted it was due to a fall,

and I did fall around the time I had started having the tremors. I didn't

fall badly or land on my back. I just tripped and fell. I am not sure if the

readings on the test are even related to my body tremors though.

Thanks,

Olif

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" Try a salt water flush

1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in a glass of 16 ounces of water. "

I do this every morning but in oj. I will pay closer attention to see if the

tremors seem different after the salt, but I don't think they do...

I will make an appointment with my doctor soon to discuss it again with her.

Thanks,

Olif

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> I really don't think this is related to my adrenals or my thyroid. I have

> the same tremors on 27.5 mg HC (spread 4-5 times daily) as I do on 7.5 mg.

> If I stress dose HC, the tremors don't go away either. It doesn't come on

> in between doses- it is constant.

Hi Olif,

At one point I started taking too much ALA and it co-incided with tremors.

The would become especially marked when I drank caffeine (even green tea). I

would very scared and thought I'd given myself Parkinsons.

I stopped the ALA for a few rounds, then lowered the dose a lot and it went

away.

I have also heard that when thyroid levels rise they can cause you to become

more sensitive to certain chemicals. Check www.drlowe.com

I would lower or stop the ALA for a while.

Dean

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> " Try a salt water flush

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> 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in a glass of 16 ounces of water. "

Hi ,

Why do all the salt at once - could you not spread it throughout the day?

This is for thyroid and adrenal issues, right?

Should everyone be doing it with adrenal and thyroid problems?

Thanks,

Dean

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Dean:

" At one point I started taking too much ALA and it co-incided with tremors.

The would become especially marked when I drank caffeine (even green tea). I

would very scared and thought I'd given myself Parkinsons. "

Yes, this sounds like mine- seems worse with green tea! I don't drink other

caffeine.

Lately I have been worried that I might have done something too and have been

thinking Parkinson's!

I will temporarily stop the ALA, stick with DMSA, and see what happens.

I am glad to hear someone else has experienced this. Did you only notice it on

round though? Mine is everyday, not just on round.

Thanks!

-Olif

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