Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 > > Ok, I think I just discovered something I didn't know about myself. > I have been on a veg juice only cleanse for the past 7 days, Please note that veg juice only cleanses aren't part of Andy's protocol. I'm completely pro veg juices. I don't understand the purpose of taking veg juices only for long periods of time. > which > has been all going pretty good until now. Then this weekend I > increased my sulphur intake, by having more cabbage, green beans, > peas, mangetouts, sweetpeas in the juice. I had a LOT of this juiced > today. I have been feeling average all weekend, then this evening > the juice made me feel really bad. My consumption of these sulphur > foods was considerably less the previous 5 days in the cleanse. > Something in the juice made me feel this bad. > > I have had problems in the past with onions, garlic, one clue about sulfur food sensitivity > (to which I was > unconvinced at the time.) > I have had big problems when I took some advice and had some > cysteine supplements. another clue about sulfur sensitivity > That really screwed me over pretty big time. > > About 2 months ago I tried a sulphur exclusion diet, which did NOT > make any difference, i.e. it did NOT make me feel better from my > symptoms. > the way to test is to exclude then challenge. What you just did with the vegetable juice was challenge. > Now this episode with the veg juice……so I think I can't handle > sulphur foods, which is great to know, although I feel as rough as > sandpaper and I wish I had not inadvertently just done a sulphur > challenge test on myself :-( > > So….questions. I have read " amalgam illness " : > > A) Page 196. His list of sulphur foods….is that it? Or are > there more to add to the list? (there are various sulphur food list > about) Note that Andy posted recently (and has posted the same thing many times over the years) that the mistake in " Amalgam Illness " is that beans are incorrectly listed as low sulfur when they are high sulfur. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/19247 recently found a more complete list by searching using onibasu, http://onibasu.com/archives/am/134338.html > His list does not include peas, beans, lentils, bean > sprouts? Are they ok to eat? Not for someone who has difficulty tolerating sulfur foods. They are all high sulfur. > C) Sprouted foods, for example spouted alfalfa, mung bean, > lentils etc…are they ok to eat? I'm not sure about alfalfa sprouts. mung bean sprouts are high sulfur I've never heard of anyone sprouting lentils, but the lentil seeds are high sulfur. > D) Wheat grass? > E) Watercress? > I don't recall seeing wheat grass and watercress listed in any of Andy's posts on the subject. > Don't know if it's relevant but I can't eat honeydew melon either. > Honeydew melon is low sulfur. J > I have MFS and MCS. > > Apologies if these questions are already answered in the last few > days, but I feel dazed and confused at the moment, nothing is clear > right now and these direct questions will help me to see the wood > for the trees. I don't want to do anymore inadvertent challenge > tests if I can help it. > > Sunshine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 > In frequent-dose-chelation , " " > I'm completely pro veg juices. I don't understand the purpose of > taking veg juices only for long periods of time. my digestion is still giving me lots of trouble(it totally rules my life at the moment), even after 7 months of a host of limiting/special diets, i had to go hardcore and do a veg cleanse, which has been good, then backfired with this sulphur foods reaction. But it is glorious i now know what to avoid now. my list of food to avoid is very long indeed:-( I have been taking my PH value for the past 3 months, and been trying hard to alkalise my body through diet. This veg cleanse has finally succeeded in making me alkaline…..hip, hip, hooray! Happy happy dayz! Also, now i have discovered that i can't handle sulphur foods, which is very important. Hopefully my digestion can get even better now when i avoid all these foods. Was interesting that it was only when i had a LOT of sulphur foods that the reaction was so big and so noticable. This morning I woke up feeling terrible, but after 1 big veg juice with no sulphur foods i immediatly started feeling better. Only downside to the veg cleanse is that i lost even more weight, which is bad news since i am very underweight. but i look at it as two steps forward, one step back. i wasn't gaining any weight before the cleanse, hopefully now i will be able to. The knowledge i have gained re sulphur foods makes it well worth it. > > I have had problems in the past with onions, garlic, > linda: one clue about sulfur food sensitivity I have also had problems in the past with eggs too.....so that is another clue about my sulphur food sensititivy. re Sprouted foods. ok thanks for that. so beans and lentils are high sulphur, sprouted or not. sprouted SEEDS are ok, but pls reconfirm that. Thanks for your reply and all the links. i have compiled a nice long list from both those links you provided. You are a Star! Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 > In frequent-dose-chelation , " " > I'm completely pro veg juices. I don't understand the purpose of > taking veg juices only for long periods of time. my digestion is still giving me lots of trouble(it totally rules my life at the moment), even after 7 months of a host of limiting/special diets, i had to go hardcore and do a veg cleanse, which has been good, then backfired with this sulphur foods reaction. But it is glorious i now know what to avoid now. my list of food to avoid is very long indeed:-( I have been taking my PH value for the past 3 months, and been trying hard to alkalise my body through diet. This veg cleanse has finally succeeded in making me alkaline…..hip, hip, hooray! Happy happy dayz! Also, now i have discovered that i can't handle sulphur foods, which is very important. Hopefully my digestion can get even better now when i avoid all these foods. Was interesting that it was only when i had a LOT of sulphur foods that the reaction was so big and so noticable. This morning I woke up feeling terrible, but after 1 big veg juice with no sulphur foods i immediatly started feeling better. Only downside to the veg cleanse is that i lost even more weight, which is bad news since i am very underweight. but i look at it as two steps forward, one step back. i wasn't gaining any weight before the cleanse, hopefully now i will be able to. The knowledge i have gained re sulphur foods makes it well worth it. > > I have had problems in the past with onions, garlic, > linda: one clue about sulfur food sensitivity I have also had problems in the past with eggs too.....so that is another clue about my sulphur food sensititivy. re Sprouted foods. ok thanks for that. so beans and lentils are high sulphur, sprouted or not. sprouted SEEDS are ok, but pls reconfirm that. Thanks for your reply and all the links. i have compiled a nice long list from both those links you provided. You are a Star! Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 > In frequent-dose-chelation , " " > I'm completely pro veg juices. I don't understand the purpose of > taking veg juices only for long periods of time. my digestion is still giving me lots of trouble(it totally rules my life at the moment), even after 7 months of a host of limiting/special diets, i had to go hardcore and do a veg cleanse, which has been good, then backfired with this sulphur foods reaction. But it is glorious i now know what to avoid now. my list of food to avoid is very long indeed:-( I have been taking my PH value for the past 3 months, and been trying hard to alkalise my body through diet. This veg cleanse has finally succeeded in making me alkaline…..hip, hip, hooray! Happy happy dayz! Also, now i have discovered that i can't handle sulphur foods, which is very important. Hopefully my digestion can get even better now when i avoid all these foods. Was interesting that it was only when i had a LOT of sulphur foods that the reaction was so big and so noticable. This morning I woke up feeling terrible, but after 1 big veg juice with no sulphur foods i immediatly started feeling better. Only downside to the veg cleanse is that i lost even more weight, which is bad news since i am very underweight. but i look at it as two steps forward, one step back. i wasn't gaining any weight before the cleanse, hopefully now i will be able to. The knowledge i have gained re sulphur foods makes it well worth it. > > I have had problems in the past with onions, garlic, > linda: one clue about sulfur food sensitivity I have also had problems in the past with eggs too.....so that is another clue about my sulphur food sensititivy. re Sprouted foods. ok thanks for that. so beans and lentils are high sulphur, sprouted or not. sprouted SEEDS are ok, but pls reconfirm that. Thanks for your reply and all the links. i have compiled a nice long list from both those links you provided. You are a Star! Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 mine too - i'll have good days and bad days. > my digestion is still giving me lots of trouble(it totally rules my > life at the moment), even after 7 months of a host of > limiting/special diets, i had to go hardcore and do a veg cleanse, > which has been good, then backfired with this sulphur foods reaction. how would i know if i had a sulphur food reaction? i eat eggs all the time and don't know how i would know if that is affecting me does alkanility really make a difference? my urine is acidic but my saliva is normal. i also have so much i'm dealing with - thyroid, diet (i do low carb high fat high protein) that dealing with one more thing seems a little daunting. i am also worried about my liver - have not had any tests yet. is it harder on my liver to chelate or better to not chelate? i am concerend that if i eat high protein high fat it is harder on my liver but i dont' know how else to handle the blood sugar issues and digeetion. > I have been taking my PH value for the past 3 months, and been trying > hard to alkalise my body through diet. This veg cleanse has finally > succeeded in making me alkaline…..hip, hip, hooray! Happy happy dayz! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 > > how would i know if i had a sulphur food reaction? i eat eggs all the > time and don't know how i would know if that is affecting me > Eliminate all sulphur foods from your diet for a week or so, then challenge with lots of sulphur foods in one day. See how you feel. If the results are not clear, repeat. > > does alkanility really make a difference? my urine is acidic but my > saliva is normal. i also have so much i'm dealing with - thyroid, > diet (i do low carb high fat high protein) that dealing with one more > thing seems a little daunting. > No need to make it any more complex. Think simple, think vegetables. Eat as many fresh vegetables as you can. Incorporate veg juices in your regular diet, either juicing yourself or drinking V8, tomato juice, and others that are available. > i am also worried about my liver - have not had any tests yet. is it > harder on my liver to chelate or better to not chelate? In the long term it's better to chelate **properly to get the toxins out of your system and proper use of ALA will eventually help your liver. i am concerend > that if i eat high protein high fat it is harder on my liver but i > dont' know how else to handle the blood sugar issues and digeetion. > The high protein is hard on the kidneys. Incorporate lots of vegetables in your high protein, high fat diet. Use 'good' fats, from **fresh foods with no or little processing. Lots of salads with olive oil and lemon, avocado, coconut, fresh nuts and seeds, J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 > > how would i know if i had a sulphur food reaction? i eat eggs all the > time and don't know how i would know if that is affecting me > Eliminate all sulphur foods from your diet for a week or so, then challenge with lots of sulphur foods in one day. See how you feel. If the results are not clear, repeat. > > does alkanility really make a difference? my urine is acidic but my > saliva is normal. i also have so much i'm dealing with - thyroid, > diet (i do low carb high fat high protein) that dealing with one more > thing seems a little daunting. > No need to make it any more complex. Think simple, think vegetables. Eat as many fresh vegetables as you can. Incorporate veg juices in your regular diet, either juicing yourself or drinking V8, tomato juice, and others that are available. > i am also worried about my liver - have not had any tests yet. is it > harder on my liver to chelate or better to not chelate? In the long term it's better to chelate **properly to get the toxins out of your system and proper use of ALA will eventually help your liver. i am concerend > that if i eat high protein high fat it is harder on my liver but i > dont' know how else to handle the blood sugar issues and digeetion. > The high protein is hard on the kidneys. Incorporate lots of vegetables in your high protein, high fat diet. Use 'good' fats, from **fresh foods with no or little processing. Lots of salads with olive oil and lemon, avocado, coconut, fresh nuts and seeds, J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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