Re: NJ - please answer- what about amalgam stains under fillings??

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NJ

I wonder if you have looked at a Clostridium connection for the black stains.

Clostridium is an 'anorganiese' (inorganic ?) bacteria that survives in crevices

where there is no oxigyn. Clostridium causes lots of harm but no pain. Only if

streptococcus is present, is there pain.

As soon as Clostridium is exposed to oxygen (like living inder amalgam and then

the amalgam is removed) and it gets exposed and is killed. Oreganum oil is what

kills Clostridium.

To my knowledge one option of these black stains could come from Clostridium.

Maybe you can follow is up by looking for more info.

Good luck, Kai

P.S. Just for interest, Clostridium Tetani also causes stiffness,specially in

your neck. Dr Hulda : " In cases of Parkinson's disease I often find the

bacterium Clostridium tetani, well known for causing stiffness. It hides under

tooth fillings, too. "

what about amalgam stains under

fillings??

Hi,

I asked this question awhile back and didn't get a response. Please if you

know anything about this, or have experienced it, please let me know.

I've noticed that in each of the quadrants where amalgam has been removed,

the teeth have dark staining underneath where the amalgams were -- not on

the gums or anything but in the drilled-out part of the tooth. I see this in

the bathroom mirror after the amalgams are out, on a break while they switch

me out of the amalgam room.

I know some of this comes out in the next session, with further drilling for

cavities, and he also uses a procedure where he puts some wadding in the

teeth with some chelating agent on it, and uses a laser on it to draw it

out. But I know, and he acknowledges, that there is staining left there

which cannot be removed.

I've asked my dentist about it , and he says that the stains, which

seem to be rather deeply embedded in the tooth (after 30+ years!) canleech

material into the system and so he does the chelating step described above.

But there is just so much he can do, it seems, as there is still (what

seems to me) some definite staining, which will be there under any

restorations. He says that they can't really grind all the amalgam stain

away, because the staining goes into the tooth and drilling it all would

go into the pulp and kill the tooth. I seem to be stuck with it for life.

Have any of you all noticed this issue when your amalgams were removed ?

Surely I can't be the only one. Has your chelating program gone well? It

seems that most people who've had amalgams in this long would have

encountered this happening, the discoloration. This office I go to is very

good, quite thorough, and openly anti-amalgam, so they must be doing

everything they can short of removing half my teeth!

Will this doom my efforts to chelate? Has anyone with this issue chelated

successfully?

please tell,

NJ

[Guest guest]

NJ

I wonder if you have looked at a Clostridium connection for the black stains.

Clostridium is an 'anorganiese' (inorganic ?) bacteria that survives in crevices

where there is no oxigyn. Clostridium causes lots of harm but no pain. Only if

streptococcus is present, is there pain.

As soon as Clostridium is exposed to oxygen (like living inder amalgam and then

the amalgam is removed) and it gets exposed and is killed. Oreganum oil is what

kills Clostridium.

To my knowledge one option of these black stains could come from Clostridium.

Maybe you can follow is up by looking for more info.

Good luck, Kai

P.S. Just for interest, Clostridium Tetani also causes stiffness,specially in

your neck. Dr Hulda : " In cases of Parkinson's disease I often find the

bacterium Clostridium tetani, well known for causing stiffness. It hides under

tooth fillings, too. "

what about amalgam stains under

fillings??

Hi,

I asked this question awhile back and didn't get a response. Please if you

know anything about this, or have experienced it, please let me know.

I've noticed that in each of the quadrants where amalgam has been removed,

the teeth have dark staining underneath where the amalgams were -- not on

the gums or anything but in the drilled-out part of the tooth. I see this in

the bathroom mirror after the amalgams are out, on a break while they switch

me out of the amalgam room.

I know some of this comes out in the next session, with further drilling for

cavities, and he also uses a procedure where he puts some wadding in the

teeth with some chelating agent on it, and uses a laser on it to draw it

out. But I know, and he acknowledges, that there is staining left there

which cannot be removed.

I've asked my dentist about it , and he says that the stains, which

seem to be rather deeply embedded in the tooth (after 30+ years!) canleech

material into the system and so he does the chelating step described above.

But there is just so much he can do, it seems, as there is still (what

seems to me) some definite staining, which will be there under any

restorations. He says that they can't really grind all the amalgam stain

away, because the staining goes into the tooth and drilling it all would

go into the pulp and kill the tooth. I seem to be stuck with it for life.

Have any of you all noticed this issue when your amalgams were removed ?

Surely I can't be the only one. Has your chelating program gone well? It

seems that most people who've had amalgams in this long would have

encountered this happening, the discoloration. This office I go to is very

good, quite thorough, and openly anti-amalgam, so they must be doing

everything they can short of removing half my teeth!

Will this doom my efforts to chelate? Has anyone with this issue chelated

successfully?

please tell,

NJ

[Guest guest]

Hi, i just got a couple of these responses i hadn't seen before -- my yahoo

mail delivery is acting strangely...

This clostridium bacteria you speak of -- is it enough when you have

amalgams out and they are exposed to oxygen for maybe 10-20 minutes before

they get filled in again, with either temporaries or new composites, it that

enough time to kill the bacteria? Or the action of the dentist scraping

around in there? I'm hoping so, as there were some composites put in right

away, while others are still awaiting crowns and onlays. Can it survive

under composites, since they are bound to the tooth?

Is there a test to tell whether it is clostridium bacteria ? I will mention

this to my dentist, and also the oreganum oil.

thanks for the info, i never heard of this.

NJ

Re: NJ - please answer- what about

amalgam stains under fillings??

NJ

I wonder if you have looked at a Clostridium connection for the black

stains.

Clostridium is an 'anorganiese' (inorganic ?) bacteria that survives in

crevices where there is no oxigyn. Clostridium causes lots of harm but no

pain. Only if streptococcus is present, is there pain.

As soon as Clostridium is exposed to oxygen (like living inder amalgam and

then the amalgam is removed) and it gets exposed and is killed. Oreganum oil

is what kills Clostridium.

To my knowledge one option of these black stains could come from

Clostridium.

Maybe you can follow is up by looking for more info.

Good luck, Kai

P.S. Just for interest, Clostridium Tetani also causes stiffness,specially

in your neck. Dr Hulda : " In cases of Parkinson's disease I often find

the bacterium Clostridium tetani, well known for causing stiffness. It hides

under tooth fillings, too. "

what about amalgam stains under

fillings??

Hi,

I asked this question awhile back and didn't get a response. Please if you

know anything about this, or have experienced it, please let me know.

I've noticed that in each of the quadrants where amalgam has been removed,

the teeth have dark staining underneath where the amalgams were -- not on

the gums or anything but in the drilled-out part of the tooth. I see this in

the bathroom mirror after the amalgams are out, on a break while they switch

me out of the amalgam room.

I know some of this comes out in the next session, with further drilling for

cavities, and he also uses a procedure where he puts some wadding in the

teeth with some chelating agent on it, and uses a laser on it to draw it

out. But I know, and he acknowledges, that there is staining left there

which cannot be removed.

I've asked my dentist about it , and he says that the stains, which

seem to be rather deeply embedded in the tooth (after 30+ years!) canleech

material into the system and so he does the chelating step described above.

But there is just so much he can do, it seems, as there is still (what

seems to me) some definite staining, which will be there under any

restorations. He says that they can't really grind all the amalgam stain

away, because the staining goes into the tooth and drilling it all would

go into the pulp and kill the tooth. I seem to be stuck with it for life.

Have any of you all noticed this issue when your amalgams were removed ?

Surely I can't be the only one. Has your chelating program gone well? It

seems that most people who've had amalgams in this long would have

encountered this happening, the discoloration. This office I go to is very

good, quite thorough, and openly anti-amalgam, so they must be doing

everything they can short of removing half my teeth!

Will this doom my efforts to chelate? Has anyone with this issue chelated

successfully?

please tell,

NJ

[Guest guest]

Although you may not see stained teeth, if you look under the filling

when the removal is performed there is quite likely to be staining.

This is decay caused by bacteria. I also asked my dentist if it needs

treating, he said no. Also obviously before the replacement is put in

to tooth has to be sterilised anyway so don't worry about the oxygen

side of things.

Phil

>

> Hi, i just got a couple of these responses i hadn't seen before --

my yahoo

> mail delivery is acting strangely...

>

> This clostridium bacteria you speak of -- is it enough when you have

> amalgams out and they are exposed to oxygen for maybe 10-20 minutes

before

> they get filled in again, with either temporaries or new

composites, it that

> enough time to kill the bacteria? Or the action of the dentist

scraping

> around in there? I'm hoping so, as there were some composites put

in right

> away, while others are still awaiting crowns and onlays. Can it

survive

> under composites, since they are bound to the tooth?

>

> Is there a test to tell whether it is clostridium bacteria ? I will

mention

> this to my dentist, and also the oreganum oil.

>

> thanks for the info, i never heard of this.

> NJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

Although you may not see stained teeth, if you look under the filling

when the removal is performed there is quite likely to be staining.

This is decay caused by bacteria. I also asked my dentist if it needs

treating, he said no. Also obviously before the replacement is put in

to tooth has to be sterilised anyway so don't worry about the oxygen

side of things.

Phil

>

> Hi, i just got a couple of these responses i hadn't seen before --

my yahoo

> mail delivery is acting strangely...

>

> This clostridium bacteria you speak of -- is it enough when you have

> amalgams out and they are exposed to oxygen for maybe 10-20 minutes

before

> they get filled in again, with either temporaries or new

composites, it that

> enough time to kill the bacteria? Or the action of the dentist

scraping

> around in there? I'm hoping so, as there were some composites put

in right

> away, while others are still awaiting crowns and onlays. Can it

survive

> under composites, since they are bound to the tooth?

>

> Is there a test to tell whether it is clostridium bacteria ? I will

mention

> this to my dentist, and also the oreganum oil.

>

> thanks for the info, i never heard of this.

> NJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

Although you may not see stained teeth, if you look under the filling

when the removal is performed there is quite likely to be staining.

This is decay caused by bacteria. I also asked my dentist if it needs

treating, he said no. Also obviously before the replacement is put in

to tooth has to be sterilised anyway so don't worry about the oxygen

side of things.

Phil

>

> Hi, i just got a couple of these responses i hadn't seen before --

my yahoo

> mail delivery is acting strangely...

>

> This clostridium bacteria you speak of -- is it enough when you have

> amalgams out and they are exposed to oxygen for maybe 10-20 minutes

before

> they get filled in again, with either temporaries or new

composites, it that

> enough time to kill the bacteria? Or the action of the dentist

scraping

> around in there? I'm hoping so, as there were some composites put

in right

> away, while others are still awaiting crowns and onlays. Can it

survive

> under composites, since they are bound to the tooth?

>

> Is there a test to tell whether it is clostridium bacteria ? I will

mention

> this to my dentist, and also the oreganum oil.

>

> thanks for the info, i never heard of this.

> NJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

NJ

You need to ask your dentist to Ozonate each tooth before a new filling is

placed.

Kai

Re: NJ - please answer- what about amalgam

stains under fillings??

Hi, i just got a couple of these responses i hadn't seen before -- my yahoo

mail delivery is acting strangely...

This clostridium bacteria you speak of -- is it enough when you have

amalgams out and they are exposed to oxygen for maybe 10-20 minutes before

they get filled in again, with either temporaries or new composites, it that

enough time to kill the bacteria? Or the action of the dentist scraping

around in there? I'm hoping so, as there were some composites put in right

away, while others are still awaiting crowns and onlays. Can it survive

under composites, since they are bound to the tooth?

Is there a test to tell whether it is clostridium bacteria ? I will mention

this to my dentist, and also the oreganum oil.

thanks for the info, i never heard of this.

NJ

[Guest guest]

This clostridium bacteria you speak of -- is it enough when you have

amalgams out and they are exposed to oxygen for maybe 10-20 minutes before

they get filled in again, with either temporaries or new composites, it that

enough time to kill the bacteria?

>>> Even if they are killed the black staining will remain (as far as I know).

It is like when your curtains are mouldy and you wash them and kill the mould,

they remain stained. Clostridium are anaerobic bacteria that grow wherever their

is no oxygen and immunity is weak. Under crowns and fillings and in root canals

and cavitations are their favourite place.

Or the action of the dentist scraping

around in there? I'm hoping so, as there were some composites put in right

away, while others are still awaiting crowns and onlays. Can it survive

under composites, since they are bound to the tooth?

>>> Yes, if they are not bound tightly, and who knows over time. These are

unnatural teeth as soon as anything is done to them. All bacteria have a

metal-dependency - they can't live without metal, and usually a specific one.

That is why a metal-free composite is vital, like Diamond Lite.

Also, the dentist should ozonate the tooth before filling it, or crowning it

See details here

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/day_of_dental_visit.html

Is there a test to tell whether it is clostridium bacteria ? I will mention

this to my dentist, and also the oreganum oil.

>> No, there is no test. He could culture it, but there is not really a point.

If their is black there usually was clostridium at some point.

thanks for the info, i never heard of this.

>> Your dentist probably has not either ;-)

NJ