Re: To Nick from Misty Lab information

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Nick i spent so much time writing my lab tests and somehow it got deleted.

I am already very much supportimng my adrenals..i will post the lab tests later on.

I feel very much the amt of thyroid i was on was overdriving the adrenals..

Is there a way i can speak with you?

Misty

Re: To Nick from Misty Lab information

>I am also taking adrenal support. i feel if i could just get my thyroid stable so much would come on line for me..

>if you have any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

>

>my cortisol is very very low by genova saliva test. i am goin gto restrest but i need to be more stable with my thyroid first.

That last para says it all.

You have major adrenal issues, until you stabilize those you can't get

the thyroid sorted, it has to be adrenals first.

Have you graphed temperatures??

the first link on this page shows you how

http://thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm

Until temperatures are stable from day to day measured like that you

stand no chance of sorting the thyroid, You will need to go T3 only,

but it will only work with enough adrenal support.

If you join this group

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

and post your last saliva labs they will suggest dosing etc.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

Nick i spent so much time writing my lab tests and somehow it got deleted.

I am already very much supportimng my adrenals..i will post the lab tests later on.

I feel very much the amt of thyroid i was on was overdriving the adrenals..

Is there a way i can speak with you?

Misty

Re: To Nick from Misty Lab information

>I am also taking adrenal support. i feel if i could just get my thyroid stable so much would come on line for me..

>if you have any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

>

>my cortisol is very very low by genova saliva test. i am goin gto restrest but i need to be more stable with my thyroid first.

That last para says it all.

You have major adrenal issues, until you stabilize those you can't get

the thyroid sorted, it has to be adrenals first.

Have you graphed temperatures??

the first link on this page shows you how

http://thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm

Until temperatures are stable from day to day measured like that you

stand no chance of sorting the thyroid, You will need to go T3 only,

but it will only work with enough adrenal support.

If you join this group

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

and post your last saliva labs they will suggest dosing etc.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

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>Nick i spent so much time writing my lab tests and somehow it got deleted.

>I am already very much supportimng my adrenals..i will post the lab tests later

on.

>I feel very much the amt of thyroid i was on was overdriving the adrenals..

>Is there a way i can speak with you?

No way you can speak with me but you can Val, there is a link for

booking calls with her somewhere.

I only need to know the T4/T3/TSH/RT3 Ferritin electrolyte and

adrenal labs, can't help with the rest.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>

>ok here goes

>

>TSH .006 (4.450-4.500)

A bit on the low side, 0.01 would be better, this is indicating that

something is stopping the T3 getting through to your cells

>T4 10.5 (4.5-12.0)

>T3 uptake 30 (24-39)

>Free thyroxiine index 3.2 1.2-4.9

FT4 is ok, wouldn't want it any higher

>triiodothyroninne (t3) 175 (71-180)

>Reverse t3 403 (90-350)

Horrible

Putting the decimal point in the right place

Total T3/RT3 = 1750/403 = 4.4. The ratio with total T3 wants to be

10 or greater.

>parathyroid 13 (15-65)

Low, this affects calcium but I don't know any more about it than

that.

>sodium 140 135-145

OK

>potassium 3.7 3.5-5.2

That's low and could be causing problems

>ferritin is like a few points in range. i cant find that test, i do not have

reg. menses, so i am not losing blood at al.

The ranges go far too lot for people with thyroid issues, You need a

Ferritin of the 70-90 mark to tolerate and benefit from thyroid meds

>i am hoping when my thyroid come on line so will my periods, my estrogen and

progesterone seem low.

Looks to me like you need to get Potassium and Ferritin up and then go

T3 only.

Are your average temperatures stable??

For the Ferritin you will need to take 150 to 200 mg of elemental iron

a day split in 2 doses and keeping them away from thyroid meds.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>

>ok here goes

>

>TSH .006 (4.450-4.500)

A bit on the low side, 0.01 would be better, this is indicating that

something is stopping the T3 getting through to your cells

>T4 10.5 (4.5-12.0)

>T3 uptake 30 (24-39)

>Free thyroxiine index 3.2 1.2-4.9

FT4 is ok, wouldn't want it any higher

>triiodothyroninne (t3) 175 (71-180)

>Reverse t3 403 (90-350)

Horrible

Putting the decimal point in the right place

Total T3/RT3 = 1750/403 = 4.4. The ratio with total T3 wants to be

10 or greater.

>parathyroid 13 (15-65)

Low, this affects calcium but I don't know any more about it than

that.

>sodium 140 135-145

OK

>potassium 3.7 3.5-5.2

That's low and could be causing problems

>ferritin is like a few points in range. i cant find that test, i do not have

reg. menses, so i am not losing blood at al.

The ranges go far too lot for people with thyroid issues, You need a

Ferritin of the 70-90 mark to tolerate and benefit from thyroid meds

>i am hoping when my thyroid come on line so will my periods, my estrogen and

progesterone seem low.

Looks to me like you need to get Potassium and Ferritin up and then go

T3 only.

Are your average temperatures stable??

For the Ferritin you will need to take 150 to 200 mg of elemental iron

a day split in 2 doses and keeping them away from thyroid meds.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>

>ok here goes

>

>TSH .006 (4.450-4.500)

A bit on the low side, 0.01 would be better, this is indicating that

something is stopping the T3 getting through to your cells

>T4 10.5 (4.5-12.0)

>T3 uptake 30 (24-39)

>Free thyroxiine index 3.2 1.2-4.9

FT4 is ok, wouldn't want it any higher

>triiodothyroninne (t3) 175 (71-180)

>Reverse t3 403 (90-350)

Horrible

Putting the decimal point in the right place

Total T3/RT3 = 1750/403 = 4.4. The ratio with total T3 wants to be

10 or greater.

>parathyroid 13 (15-65)

Low, this affects calcium but I don't know any more about it than

that.

>sodium 140 135-145

OK

>potassium 3.7 3.5-5.2

That's low and could be causing problems

>ferritin is like a few points in range. i cant find that test, i do not have

reg. menses, so i am not losing blood at al.

The ranges go far too lot for people with thyroid issues, You need a

Ferritin of the 70-90 mark to tolerate and benefit from thyroid meds

>i am hoping when my thyroid come on line so will my periods, my estrogen and

progesterone seem low.

Looks to me like you need to get Potassium and Ferritin up and then go

T3 only.

Are your average temperatures stable??

For the Ferritin you will need to take 150 to 200 mg of elemental iron

a day split in 2 doses and keeping them away from thyroid meds.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much Nick for all your time..i really appreciate it.

Do you think i did th eright thing by going down on the t4 slowly?

I cut it in half. i have been a week like this. on the 4 th day i started doing better..

but i went through some lethargy last week that was soo hard.

Misty

Re: To Nick from Misty Lab information

>

>ok here goes

>

>TSH .006 (4.450-4.500)

A bit on the low side, 0.01 would be better, this is indicating that

something is stopping the T3 getting through to your cells

>T4 10.5 (4.5-12.0)

>T3 uptake 30 (24-39)

>Free thyroxiine index 3.2 1.2-4.9

FT4 is ok, wouldn't want it any higher

>triiodothyroninne (t3) 175 (71-180)

>Reverse t3 403 (90-350)

Horrible

Putting the decimal point in the right place

Total T3/RT3 = 1750/403 = 4.4. The ratio with total T3 wants to be

10 or greater.

>parathyroid 13 (15-65)

Low, this affects calcium but I don't know any more about it than

that.

>sodium 140 135-145

OK

>potassium 3.7 3.5-5.2

That's low and could be causing problems

>ferritin is like a few points in range. i cant find that test, i do not have reg. menses, so i am not losing blood at al.

The ranges go far too lot for people with thyroid issues, You need a

Ferritin of the 70-90 mark to tolerate and benefit from thyroid meds

>i am hoping when my thyroid come on line so will my periods, my estrogen and progesterone seem low.

Looks to me like you need to get Potassium and Ferritin up and then go

T3 only.

Are your average temperatures stable??

For the Ferritin you will need to take 150 to 200 mg of elemental iron

a day split in 2 doses and keeping them away from thyroid meds.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>

>Thank you very much Nick for all your time..i really appreciate it.

>Do you think i did th eright thing by going down on the t4 slowly?

>I cut it in half. i have been a week like this. on the 4 th day i started

doing better..

>but i went through some lethargy last week that was soo hard.

If it works for you then it's the right thing to do.

The " T4 decay " will be slower if you chop it in half first which means

you will need to go up slower with the T3, smaller increments and/or

less often, you will soon get the feel for when you need an increase

though.

After a week at half T4 you should be ready to drop the rest of it

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

ThanksNick, wheni drop my t4 completely its ok to stay at my t3 dose and continue going upward?

Re: To Nick from Misty Lab information

>

>Thank you very much Nick for all your time..i really appreciate it.

>Do you think i did th eright thing by going down on the t4 slowly?

>I cut it in half. i have been a week like this. on the 4 th day i started doing better..

>but i went through some lethargy last week that was soo hard.

If it works for you then it's the right thing to do.

The "T4 decay" will be slower if you chop it in half first which means

you will need to go up slower with the T3, smaller increments and/or

less often, you will soon get the feel for when you need an increase

though.

After a week at half T4 you should be ready to drop the rest of it

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>ThanksNick, wheni drop my t4 completely its ok to stay at my t3 dose and

continue going upward?

>

yes, stop the rest of the T4 overnight and as you start to feel hypo

in a few days increase T3 again

Nick