Re: Maternal second-cousin: casein-free diet

[Guest guest]

Not that I am aware of...doesn't mean it doesn't exist...but usually

enzymes are used to help with Lactose intolerance, not casein

sensitivity. If you find one, let me know!

LIz

> > I'd have him try 3-4 weeks dairy free...NO dairy at all due to

casein

> > protein. I've had many people with joint pains etc.(including

myself)

> >

> Do good enzyme supplements work in some cases for casein

> breakdown? A person on Dr. B.'s forums said that enzyme

supplements

> worked for him to break down casein in the stomach, presumably

before

> the immune system can get to it.. Gluten - is a different

matter..

> Only one enzyme known to break it down effectively, and it's not

in

> production/purification yet.

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

Not that I am aware of...doesn't mean it doesn't exist...but usually

enzymes are used to help with Lactose intolerance, not casein

sensitivity. If you find one, let me know!

LIz

> > I'd have him try 3-4 weeks dairy free...NO dairy at all due to

casein

> > protein. I've had many people with joint pains etc.(including

myself)

> >

> Do good enzyme supplements work in some cases for casein

> breakdown? A person on Dr. B.'s forums said that enzyme

supplements

> worked for him to break down casein in the stomach, presumably

before

> the immune system can get to it.. Gluten - is a different

matter..

> Only one enzyme known to break it down effectively, and it's not

in

> production/purification yet.

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

DPP IV will break down casein, gluten and soy. Most enzyme products

contain no DPP IV activity. However the chances that someone who is

sensitive to gluten can consume gluten with enzymes containing DPP IV

is dependent on the enzyme itself, time away from gluten and the

person. I think Houston's peptizyde has had the best success rate with

this, more than Klaire and Kirkman. There are some cheaper enzymes

that contain DPP IV, and Country Life sells a product that is

specifically for gluten digestion. Every supplier's enzyme is made

differently even if it has the same (DPP IV, general protease, etc)

activity, and they are all optimized for specific pH ranges.

Note also that supplemental zinc disables a person's natural DPP IV

activity.

Jay

> > I'd have him try 3-4 weeks dairy free...NO dairy at all due to casein

> > protein. I've had many people with joint pains etc.(including myself)

> >

> Do good enzyme supplements work in some cases for casein

> breakdown? A person on Dr. B.'s forums said that enzyme supplements

> worked for him to break down casein in the stomach, presumably before

> the immune system can get to it.. Gluten - is a different matter..

> Only one enzyme known to break it down effectively, and it's not in

> production/purification yet.

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

DPP IV will break down casein, gluten and soy. Most enzyme products

contain no DPP IV activity. However the chances that someone who is

sensitive to gluten can consume gluten with enzymes containing DPP IV

is dependent on the enzyme itself, time away from gluten and the

person. I think Houston's peptizyde has had the best success rate with

this, more than Klaire and Kirkman. There are some cheaper enzymes

that contain DPP IV, and Country Life sells a product that is

specifically for gluten digestion. Every supplier's enzyme is made

differently even if it has the same (DPP IV, general protease, etc)

activity, and they are all optimized for specific pH ranges.

Note also that supplemental zinc disables a person's natural DPP IV

activity.

Jay

> > I'd have him try 3-4 weeks dairy free...NO dairy at all due to casein

> > protein. I've had many people with joint pains etc.(including myself)

> >

> Do good enzyme supplements work in some cases for casein

> breakdown? A person on Dr. B.'s forums said that enzyme supplements

> worked for him to break down casein in the stomach, presumably before

> the immune system can get to it.. Gluten - is a different matter..

> Only one enzyme known to break it down effectively, and it's not in

> production/purification yet.

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

DPP IV will break down casein, gluten and soy. Most enzyme products

contain no DPP IV activity. However the chances that someone who is

sensitive to gluten can consume gluten with enzymes containing DPP IV

is dependent on the enzyme itself, time away from gluten and the

person. I think Houston's peptizyde has had the best success rate with

this, more than Klaire and Kirkman. There are some cheaper enzymes

that contain DPP IV, and Country Life sells a product that is

specifically for gluten digestion. Every supplier's enzyme is made

differently even if it has the same (DPP IV, general protease, etc)

activity, and they are all optimized for specific pH ranges.

Note also that supplemental zinc disables a person's natural DPP IV

activity.

Jay

> > I'd have him try 3-4 weeks dairy free...NO dairy at all due to casein

> > protein. I've had many people with joint pains etc.(including myself)

> >

> Do good enzyme supplements work in some cases for casein

> breakdown? A person on Dr. B.'s forums said that enzyme supplements

> worked for him to break down casein in the stomach, presumably before

> the immune system can get to it.. Gluten - is a different matter..

> Only one enzyme known to break it down effectively, and it's not in

> production/purification yet.

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

Enzymedica has one too - Glutenease.

I think Houston's peptizyde has had the best success rate with

> this, more than Klaire and Kirkman. There are some cheaper enzymes

> that contain DPP IV, and Country Life sells a product that is

> specifically for gluten digestion. Every supplier's enzyme is made

> differently even if it has the same (DPP IV, general protease, etc)

> activity, and they are all optimized for specific pH ranges.

>

> Note also that supplemental zinc disables a person's natural DPP IV

> activity.

>

> Jay