Re: RT3 clearance and Doc appt

[Guest guest]

I am nto convinced any female mneeds over 5mg DHEA anytime. It is MUCH

safer to just supplement testosterone and estrogen as needed. MOST of

DHEA's good actions are form it's conversioninto those anabolic steroids.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> Hi Val, and thanks,

>

> I forgot to say that I've been really sick with a nasty cold for almost three

weeks, which is why I stopped decreasing the HC. I'm working my way down as

you'd recommended a month or so ago.

>

> Those are basal temps. But this morning, I was back at my regular 97.6...sigh.

Over the past week my 3x a day temps avg is 98.3.

>

> Re DHEA, I'm taking 25mg a day. Have been taking 20mg for a year, and just

increased. Should I decrease that?

>

> I was trying to learn more about blood sugar, leptin resistance and T3, but

got booted off that group.... can you point me anywhere else for the leptin

issue, just in case I am resistant to that, as well as everything else? I feel

100% better off all grains.

>

> Thanks again,

>

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>>> I'm in week 8.5 of no T4 & RT3 clearance. For the first time in my life,

my morning temps are 98 to 98.4. My pulse is staying in the high 80s and is

sometimes in the 90s. Suddenly, I have energy, but am a bit wired at night the

past day or so. I like the mental clarity I'm having, but need to sleep and stay

asleep rather than waking several times a night. I'm under financial stress, and

have been taking melatonin for a year or so to sleep. the wakefulness at night

is new.

>>>

>>> I'd scheduled an appt with my doc for June the 28th, and now I'm feeling

like I should wait the full 12 weeks, have labs, THEN meet with her. Doesn't

that make sense?

>>>

>>> Another issue is my vision...which has gone to heck in a handbasket with the

hypothyroid/adrenal issue. My right eye just won't focus normally. It sort of

shutters if that makes sense. My left eye is fine, but the right is always a bit

lazy, out of focus, then if I shut my left, the right steps up to the plate and

can see. It is driving me crazy. I'm nearsighted and have worn glasses since I

was 11, but just had a comprehensive eye exam, and nothing is wrong...but

something is. I've read here that others have had this visual issue...would love

to know how you're dealing with it.

>>>

>>> currently I'm on 100 mg Cytomel taken 25mg at 10am, noon, 3 and 5pm. 40mg

topical HC, progesterone, testosterone, oral DHEA, mag, C, E, D, B-12 etc.

>>>

>>> I'd love to hear from some of you with similar issues.

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>>

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>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

ok.. makes sense. My DHEA was low and doc said to up it, but i'm also on topical

testosterone and progesterone. No estrogen, which I've always had in great

supply....

I'll drop back to 5mg. Do I need to do that gradually, or does it matter?

Thanks again!

> >>

> >>> I'm in week 8.5 of no T4 & RT3 clearance. For the first time in my life,

my morning temps are 98 to 98.4. My pulse is staying in the high 80s and is

sometimes in the 90s. Suddenly, I have energy, but am a bit wired at night the

past day or so. I like the mental clarity I'm having, but need to sleep and stay

asleep rather than waking several times a night. I'm under financial stress, and

have been taking melatonin for a year or so to sleep. the wakefulness at night

is new.

> >>>

> >>> I'd scheduled an appt with my doc for June the 28th, and now I'm feeling

like I should wait the full 12 weeks, have labs, THEN meet with her. Doesn't

that make sense?

> >>>

> >>> Another issue is my vision...which has gone to heck in a handbasket with

the hypothyroid/adrenal issue. My right eye just won't focus normally. It sort

of shutters if that makes sense. My left eye is fine, but the right is always a

bit lazy, out of focus, then if I shut my left, the right steps up to the plate

and can see. It is driving me crazy. I'm nearsighted and have worn glasses

since I was 11, but just had a comprehensive eye exam, and nothing is

wrong...but something is. I've read here that others have had this visual

issue...would love to know how you're dealing with it.

> >>>

> >>> currently I'm on 100 mg Cytomel taken 25mg at 10am, noon, 3 and 5pm. 40mg

topical HC, progesterone, testosterone, oral DHEA, mag, C, E, D, B-12 etc.

> >>>

> >>> I'd love to hear from some of you with similar issues.

> >>>

> >>> Thanks,

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

NO you can drop it all at once.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> ok.. makes sense. My DHEA was low and doc said to up it, but i'm also on

topical testosterone and progesterone. No estrogen, which I've always had in

great supply....

>

> I'll drop back to 5mg. Do I need to do that gradually, or does it matter?

>

> Thanks again!

>

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I'm in week 8.5 of no T4 & RT3 clearance. For the first time in my

life, my morning temps are 98 to 98.4. My pulse is staying in the high 80s and

is sometimes in the 90s. Suddenly, I have energy, but am a bit wired at night

the past day or so. I like the mental clarity I'm having, but need to sleep and

stay asleep rather than waking several times a night. I'm under financial

stress, and have been taking melatonin for a year or so to sleep. the

wakefulness at night is new.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'd scheduled an appt with my doc for June the 28th, and now I'm feeling

like I should wait the full 12 weeks, have labs, THEN meet with her. Doesn't

that make sense?

>>>>>

>>>>> Another issue is my vision...which has gone to heck in a handbasket with

the hypothyroid/adrenal issue. My right eye just won't focus normally. It sort

of shutters if that makes sense. My left eye is fine, but the right is always a

bit lazy, out of focus, then if I shut my left, the right steps up to the plate

and can see. It is driving me crazy. I'm nearsighted and have worn glasses

since I was 11, but just had a comprehensive eye exam, and nothing is

wrong...but something is. I've read here that others have had this visual

issue...would love to know how you're dealing with it.

>>>>>

>>>>> currently I'm on 100 mg Cytomel taken 25mg at 10am, noon, 3 and 5pm. 40mg

topical HC, progesterone, testosterone, oral DHEA, mag, C, E, D, B-12 etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'd love to hear from some of you with similar issues.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I beg to differ with Val on this point. I am panhypopituitary and therefor have

no adrenal function. I have to take 15 mg of DHEA daily to keep my DHEAS level

in the range of 150 to 200 (last test it was 165 and that was during the

afternoon, a few hours after my morning dose). DHEA does have other functions

(studies show over 40!) in the body, only some of which are to be converted into

sex hormones. I do believe 25 mg is probably too much for any woman, though.

Likely 5 mg to 15 mg would suffice for most of us females as supplements (men's

levels are higher and they can tolerate higher supplemental dosing). I suggest

testing DHEAS rather than DHEA; it's more stable and accurate. Although the

DHEAS ranges might be age adjusted to say something like 26 to 365 is normal for

a woman, a person would probably feel unwell in the lower or higher parts of

that range. Healthy middle-age women with " healthy " libidos were tested in one

study, and most were right in the 180 to 200 range on the DHEAS.

Just my 2cents

Kate in NC

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>> I'm in week 8.5 of no T4 & RT3 clearance. For the first time in my

life, my morning temps are 98 to 98.4. My pulse is staying in the high 80s and

is sometimes in the 90s. Suddenly, I have energy, but am a bit wired at night

the past day or so. I like the mental clarity I'm having, but need to sleep and

stay asleep rather than waking several times a night. I'm under financial

stress, and have been taking melatonin for a year or so to sleep. the

wakefulness at night is new.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'd scheduled an appt with my doc for June the 28th, and now I'm feeling

like I should wait the full 12 weeks, have labs, THEN meet with her. Doesn't

that make sense?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Another issue is my vision...which has gone to heck in a handbasket with

the hypothyroid/adrenal issue. My right eye just won't focus normally. It sort

of shutters if that makes sense. My left eye is fine, but the right is always a

bit lazy, out of focus, then if I shut my left, the right steps up to the plate

and can see. It is driving me crazy. I'm nearsighted and have worn glasses

since I was 11, but just had a comprehensive eye exam, and nothing is

wrong...but something is. I've read here that others have had this visual

issue...would love to know how you're dealing with it.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> currently I'm on 100 mg Cytomel taken 25mg at 10am, noon, 3 and 5pm.

40mg topical HC, progesterone, testosterone, oral DHEA, mag, C, E, D, B-12 etc.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'd love to hear from some of you with similar issues.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks,

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> ------------------------------------

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I beg to differ with Val on this point. I am panhypopituitary and therefor have

no adrenal function. I have to take 15 mg of DHEA daily to keep my DHEAS level

in the range of 150 to 200 (last test it was 165 and that was during the

afternoon, a few hours after my morning dose). DHEA does have other functions

(studies show over 40!) in the body, only some of which are to be converted into

sex hormones. I do believe 25 mg is probably too much for any woman, though.

Likely 5 mg to 15 mg would suffice for most of us females as supplements (men's

levels are higher and they can tolerate higher supplemental dosing). I suggest

testing DHEAS rather than DHEA; it's more stable and accurate. Although the

DHEAS ranges might be age adjusted to say something like 26 to 365 is normal for

a woman, a person would probably feel unwell in the lower or higher parts of

that range. Healthy middle-age women with " healthy " libidos were tested in one

study, and most were right in the 180 to 200 range on the DHEAS.

Just my 2cents

Kate in NC

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>> I'm in week 8.5 of no T4 & RT3 clearance. For the first time in my

life, my morning temps are 98 to 98.4. My pulse is staying in the high 80s and

is sometimes in the 90s. Suddenly, I have energy, but am a bit wired at night

the past day or so. I like the mental clarity I'm having, but need to sleep and

stay asleep rather than waking several times a night. I'm under financial

stress, and have been taking melatonin for a year or so to sleep. the

wakefulness at night is new.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'd scheduled an appt with my doc for June the 28th, and now I'm feeling

like I should wait the full 12 weeks, have labs, THEN meet with her. Doesn't

that make sense?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Another issue is my vision...which has gone to heck in a handbasket with

the hypothyroid/adrenal issue. My right eye just won't focus normally. It sort

of shutters if that makes sense. My left eye is fine, but the right is always a

bit lazy, out of focus, then if I shut my left, the right steps up to the plate

and can see. It is driving me crazy. I'm nearsighted and have worn glasses

since I was 11, but just had a comprehensive eye exam, and nothing is

wrong...but something is. I've read here that others have had this visual

issue...would love to know how you're dealing with it.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> currently I'm on 100 mg Cytomel taken 25mg at 10am, noon, 3 and 5pm.

40mg topical HC, progesterone, testosterone, oral DHEA, mag, C, E, D, B-12 etc.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'd love to hear from some of you with similar issues.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks,

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> ------------------------------------

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I beg to differ with Val on this point. I am panhypopituitary and therefor have

no adrenal function. I have to take 15 mg of DHEA daily to keep my DHEAS level

in the range of 150 to 200 (last test it was 165 and that was during the

afternoon, a few hours after my morning dose). DHEA does have other functions

(studies show over 40!) in the body, only some of which are to be converted into

sex hormones. I do believe 25 mg is probably too much for any woman, though.

Likely 5 mg to 15 mg would suffice for most of us females as supplements (men's

levels are higher and they can tolerate higher supplemental dosing). I suggest

testing DHEAS rather than DHEA; it's more stable and accurate. Although the

DHEAS ranges might be age adjusted to say something like 26 to 365 is normal for

a woman, a person would probably feel unwell in the lower or higher parts of

that range. Healthy middle-age women with " healthy " libidos were tested in one

study, and most were right in the 180 to 200 range on the DHEAS.

Just my 2cents

Kate in NC

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>> I'm in week 8.5 of no T4 & RT3 clearance. For the first time in my

life, my morning temps are 98 to 98.4. My pulse is staying in the high 80s and

is sometimes in the 90s. Suddenly, I have energy, but am a bit wired at night

the past day or so. I like the mental clarity I'm having, but need to sleep and

stay asleep rather than waking several times a night. I'm under financial

stress, and have been taking melatonin for a year or so to sleep. the

wakefulness at night is new.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'd scheduled an appt with my doc for June the 28th, and now I'm feeling

like I should wait the full 12 weeks, have labs, THEN meet with her. Doesn't

that make sense?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Another issue is my vision...which has gone to heck in a handbasket with

the hypothyroid/adrenal issue. My right eye just won't focus normally. It sort

of shutters if that makes sense. My left eye is fine, but the right is always a

bit lazy, out of focus, then if I shut my left, the right steps up to the plate

and can see. It is driving me crazy. I'm nearsighted and have worn glasses

since I was 11, but just had a comprehensive eye exam, and nothing is

wrong...but something is. I've read here that others have had this visual

issue...would love to know how you're dealing with it.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> currently I'm on 100 mg Cytomel taken 25mg at 10am, noon, 3 and 5pm.

40mg topical HC, progesterone, testosterone, oral DHEA, mag, C, E, D, B-12 etc.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'd love to hear from some of you with similar issues.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks,

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> ------------------------------------

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.