Re: Val/Nick - somethings going on that's weird

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I would try lowering cortisol FIRST.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.

My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to

fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one

day, tired the next, etc.

June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was

continually exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.

My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're

acting up.

On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with

headache all day...thus the T3 raise.

On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy

all day.

On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did

some laundry, bit of housework.

On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and

didn't do much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.

Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt

right all day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day.

Been sort of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating

hard (this is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they

are higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,

143/85 - pulse 92

Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays

last dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm

taking 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty

steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???

Kem in Eugene

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I would try lowering cortisol FIRST.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.

My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to

fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one

day, tired the next, etc.

June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was

continually exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.

My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're

acting up.

On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with

headache all day...thus the T3 raise.

On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy

all day.

On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did

some laundry, bit of housework.

On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and

didn't do much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.

Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt

right all day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day.

Been sort of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating

hard (this is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they

are higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,

143/85 - pulse 92

Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays

last dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm

taking 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty

steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???

Kem in Eugene

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Alright, makes sense since you put it that way. This can all be so confusing when looking out from my side of the window;-) So how much should I cut out and what dose time? I already took my 10 mg. at 9:00 this morning. My other doses are usually 10 at noon, 7.5 at 3pm and 2.5 at 6pm.Thanks again Val,Kem<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jun 22, 2010 3:43 am (PDT)Because over all your symptoms point MORE to high cortils than to high thyroid. High P and HIgh PUlse BOTH can be form CORTISOL being too high. The temps look pretty satble except for ONE day. The other two are in line wiht each other just a tad high. POFTEN as we clear the receptors of RT3 the cortils needs go dow quickly., Bleieve me I tried with T3 changes at first too and it wa weong, it was the HC. >>> Val I'm just getting your email so didn't see your suggestion to lower > HC. Can you explain why the HC should be lowered cause I don't > understand, I thought bouncing temps meant not enough HC? My 9am dose> is 10, noon is 10, 3pm is 7.5 and 6pm is 2.5 I've been getting good > steady temps since April 27, a month prior to starting T3. I thought > T3 made temps go up and HC kept them steady. Is it normal to have a > need to taper off HC when taking 25, 25, 25, 18.25 T3 in week 4?>> Since I'm just reading your email now I thought I was doing the right > thing by not taking my last dose of cynomel - but I did take my last > dose of 2.5 HC and whatever was going on with hyper feeling & heart > pounding seemed to calm down. Just took my BP and it is 139/85 but my > pulse is still 92. Usually my pulse runs 75 - 90.>> Thanks for any insights you have on this Val, I appreciate it. I'd > love to know what are you seeing that suggests I should lower HC and > need to know when and how much?>> Kem>> <<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer (AT) jfwebs (DOT) com > <mailto:artisticgroomer (AT) jfwebs (DOT) com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Val%2FNick%20-%20somethings%20going%20on%20that%27s%20weird> > valharly <http://profiles.yahoo.com/valharly>>>> Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:36 pm (PDT)>>>> I would try lowering cortisol FIRST.>> >> > >> >> > Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.> > My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to> > fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one> > day, tired the next, etc.> >> > June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was continually> > exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.> >> > My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're > acting up.> >> > On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with> > headache all day...thus the T3 raise.> > On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy all day.> > On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did some> > laundry, bit of housework.> > On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and didn't do> > much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.> > Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt right all> > day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day. Been sort> > of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating hard (this> > is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they are> > higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,> > 143/85 - pulse 92> >> > Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays last> > dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm taking> > 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty> > steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???> >> > Kem in Eugene> > <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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Val I dosed down HC 2.5 mg today and did feel better. BP was a little better 144/85 with BP 86, 132/70 with BP 80, 145/87 with BP 78. It took a while for temps to come up today but avg was 98.3 which was .4 difference from yesterday. With my temps being so stable for so long this is unusual but I'll keep an eye on it for the next few days and continue taking 93.75 mcg. of T3 as usual and keep on lower dose of 27.5 mg. HC. I did have energy today but it wasn't that hyper icky feeling and took it easy so didn't overdo myself.<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jun 22, 2010 3:43 am (PDT)Because over all your symptoms point MORE to high cortils than to high thyroid. High P and HIgh PUlse BOTH can be form CORTISOL being too high. The temps look pretty satble except for ONE day. The other two are in line wiht each other just a tad high. POFTEN as we clear the receptors of RT3 the cortils needs go dow quickly., Bleieve me I tried with T3 changes at first too and it wa weong, it was the HC. Posted by: "Kem Tillford" Losinit4good@... fromthemommaMon Jun 21, 2010 8:45 pm (PDT)Val I'm just getting your email so didn't see your suggestion to lower HC. Can you explain why the HC should be lowered cause I don't understand, I thought bouncing temps meant not enough HC? My 9am dose is 10, noon is 10, 3pm is 7.5 and 6pm is 2.5 I've been getting good steady temps since April 27, a month prior to starting T3. I thought T3 made temps go up and HC kept them steady. Is it normal to have a need to taper off HC when taking 25, 25, 25, 18.25 T3 in week 4?Since I'm just reading your email now I thought I was doing the right thing by not taking my last dose of cynomel - but I did take my last dose of 2.5 HC and whatever was going on with hyper feeling & heart pounding seemed to calm down. Just took my BP and it is 139/85 but my pulse is still 92. Usually my pulse runs 75 - 90.Thanks for any insights you have on this Val, I appreciate it. I'd love to know what are you seeing that suggests I should lower HC and need to know when and how much?Kem<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer (AT) jfwebs (DOT) com valharlyMon Jun 21, 2010 5:36 pm (PDT)I would try lowering cortisol FIRST. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>>> Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.> My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to> fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one> day, tired the next, etc.>> June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was continually> exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.>> My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're acting up.>> On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with> headache all day...thus the T3 raise.> On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy all day.> On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did some> laundry, bit of housework.> On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and didn't do> much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.> Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt right all> day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day. Been sort> of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating hard (this> is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they are> higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,> 143/85 - pulse 92>> Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays last> dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm taking> 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty> steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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Val I dosed down HC 2.5 mg today and did feel better. BP was a little better 144/85 with BP 86, 132/70 with BP 80, 145/87 with BP 78. It took a while for temps to come up today but avg was 98.3 which was .4 difference from yesterday. With my temps being so stable for so long this is unusual but I'll keep an eye on it for the next few days and continue taking 93.75 mcg. of T3 as usual and keep on lower dose of 27.5 mg. HC. I did have energy today but it wasn't that hyper icky feeling and took it easy so didn't overdo myself.<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jun 22, 2010 3:43 am (PDT)Because over all your symptoms point MORE to high cortils than to high thyroid. High P and HIgh PUlse BOTH can be form CORTISOL being too high. The temps look pretty satble except for ONE day. The other two are in line wiht each other just a tad high. POFTEN as we clear the receptors of RT3 the cortils needs go dow quickly., Bleieve me I tried with T3 changes at first too and it wa weong, it was the HC. Posted by: "Kem Tillford" Losinit4good@... fromthemommaMon Jun 21, 2010 8:45 pm (PDT)Val I'm just getting your email so didn't see your suggestion to lower HC. Can you explain why the HC should be lowered cause I don't understand, I thought bouncing temps meant not enough HC? My 9am dose is 10, noon is 10, 3pm is 7.5 and 6pm is 2.5 I've been getting good steady temps since April 27, a month prior to starting T3. I thought T3 made temps go up and HC kept them steady. Is it normal to have a need to taper off HC when taking 25, 25, 25, 18.25 T3 in week 4?Since I'm just reading your email now I thought I was doing the right thing by not taking my last dose of cynomel - but I did take my last dose of 2.5 HC and whatever was going on with hyper feeling & heart pounding seemed to calm down. Just took my BP and it is 139/85 but my pulse is still 92. Usually my pulse runs 75 - 90.Thanks for any insights you have on this Val, I appreciate it. I'd love to know what are you seeing that suggests I should lower HC and need to know when and how much?Kem<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer (AT) jfwebs (DOT) com valharlyMon Jun 21, 2010 5:36 pm (PDT)I would try lowering cortisol FIRST. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>>> Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.> My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to> fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one> day, tired the next, etc.>> June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was continually> exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.>> My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're acting up.>> On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with> headache all day...thus the T3 raise.> On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy all day.> On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did some> laundry, bit of housework.> On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and didn't do> much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.> Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt right all> day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day. Been sort> of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating hard (this> is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they are> higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,> 143/85 - pulse 92>> Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays last> dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm taking> 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty> steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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Val I dosed down HC 2.5 mg today and did feel better. BP was a little better 144/85 with BP 86, 132/70 with BP 80, 145/87 with BP 78. It took a while for temps to come up today but avg was 98.3 which was .4 difference from yesterday. With my temps being so stable for so long this is unusual but I'll keep an eye on it for the next few days and continue taking 93.75 mcg. of T3 as usual and keep on lower dose of 27.5 mg. HC. I did have energy today but it wasn't that hyper icky feeling and took it easy so didn't overdo myself.<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jun 22, 2010 3:43 am (PDT)Because over all your symptoms point MORE to high cortils than to high thyroid. High P and HIgh PUlse BOTH can be form CORTISOL being too high. The temps look pretty satble except for ONE day. The other two are in line wiht each other just a tad high. POFTEN as we clear the receptors of RT3 the cortils needs go dow quickly., Bleieve me I tried with T3 changes at first too and it wa weong, it was the HC. Posted by: "Kem Tillford" Losinit4good@... fromthemommaMon Jun 21, 2010 8:45 pm (PDT)Val I'm just getting your email so didn't see your suggestion to lower HC. Can you explain why the HC should be lowered cause I don't understand, I thought bouncing temps meant not enough HC? My 9am dose is 10, noon is 10, 3pm is 7.5 and 6pm is 2.5 I've been getting good steady temps since April 27, a month prior to starting T3. I thought T3 made temps go up and HC kept them steady. Is it normal to have a need to taper off HC when taking 25, 25, 25, 18.25 T3 in week 4?Since I'm just reading your email now I thought I was doing the right thing by not taking my last dose of cynomel - but I did take my last dose of 2.5 HC and whatever was going on with hyper feeling & heart pounding seemed to calm down. Just took my BP and it is 139/85 but my pulse is still 92. Usually my pulse runs 75 - 90.Thanks for any insights you have on this Val, I appreciate it. I'd love to know what are you seeing that suggests I should lower HC and need to know when and how much?Kem<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer (AT) jfwebs (DOT) com valharlyMon Jun 21, 2010 5:36 pm (PDT)I would try lowering cortisol FIRST. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>>> Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.> My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to> fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one> day, tired the next, etc.>> June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was continually> exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.>> My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're acting up.>> On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with> headache all day...thus the T3 raise.> On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy all day.> On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did some> laundry, bit of housework.> On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and didn't do> much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.> Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt right all> day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day. Been sort> of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating hard (this> is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they are> higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,> 143/85 - pulse 92>> Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays last> dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm taking> 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty> steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><