Re: roaming dogs killed our turkeys ( debbi )

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oh i am so sorry, you got a gun, sorry but if they can get in that way as big as it is , think what they could do to a person , a child ...Subject: roaming dogs killed our turkeysTo: "Group" <mserslife >Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:48 PM

We woke to all three turkeys (Narraganset) slaughtered this morning. The dogs broke through the side of their enclosure which was 3 feet of wood on the bottom and chicken wire up to about 12 feet. We had one turkey hen sitting on a bunch of eggs. There is black dog hair and yellow dog hair on the fence with at least three sets of dog prints all around the enclosure. Apparently we need even bigger, more secure fencing for our animals. You would think an enclosure 12 tall would be enough. Thankfully they quit at

the turkeys and didn't go after the ducks and chickens, too. SharonThis

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oh i am so sorry, you got a gun, sorry but if they can get in that way as big as it is , think what they could do to a person , a child ...Subject: roaming dogs killed our turkeysTo: "Group" <mserslife >Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:48 PM

We woke to all three turkeys (Narraganset) slaughtered this morning. The dogs broke through the side of their enclosure which was 3 feet of wood on the bottom and chicken wire up to about 12 feet. We had one turkey hen sitting on a bunch of eggs. There is black dog hair and yellow dog hair on the fence with at least three sets of dog prints all around the enclosure. Apparently we need even bigger, more secure fencing for our animals. You would think an enclosure 12 tall would be enough. Thankfully they quit at

the turkeys and didn't go after the ducks and chickens, too. SharonThis

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Yes, we have guns. And when those dogs are caught back here again they will be shot. Arizona law is behind us on this and a livestock owner is allowed to shoot to kill any dog that is harassing livestock and especially killing livestock. You make a good point, Debbi, about the dangers of these dogs and what they could do to a child. I have little grandkids who are now afraid.hugs SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered

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Re: roaming dogs killed our turkeys ( debbi )

oh i am so sorry, you got a gun, sorry but if they can get in that way as big as it is , think what they could do to a person , a child ...Subject: roaming dogs killed our turkeysTo: "Group" <mserslife >Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:48 PM

We woke to all three turkeys (Narraganset) slaughtered this morning. The dogs broke through the side of their enclosure which was 3 feet of wood on the bottom and chicken wire up to about 12 feet. We had one turkey hen sitting on a bunch of eggs. There is black dog hair and yellow dog hair on the fence with at least three sets of dog prints all around the enclosure. Apparently we need even bigger, more secure fencing for our animals. You would think an enclosure 12 tall would be enough. Thankfully they quit at

the turkeys and didn't go after the ducks and chickens, too. SharonThis

email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling

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Sharon,

Like Debbi, my first thought was... You don't need stronger

fence.. you need a gun..

Just make sure to aim true, and the predator is no more, even if

it takes more than one shot. I say this, even after Earl, just

had to have his cat put down.. when someone used either a small

caliber or BB Gun (though the vet thought more like small

caliber) on him.

Earl was going to fork out the $418 to try and save Dart's life,

but once the vet got in, he called Earl and told him that the

damage to his intestines were severe (3/4 damaged), and that he

could remove the damage and try to restore what he could, for

another $500.. but would not guarantee that even that surgery

would save Dart's life.. Earl called his dad and called me for

us to reassure him that the best option was to put Dart to

sleep....

I can totally see killing a nuisance animal, one that is killing

other livestock & such, but just wounding them to allow them

to suffer until they die.. uhh.. I'm with Earl on the baseball

bat idea should he find out who did the shooting.. AND. he found

out, from the vet, that his cat was not the only one shot in his

area around the same time.. so someone is definitely out to

inflict a cartload of suffering on these little guys..

Are there any animal control offices in your area that you can

contact, and have them go out and find those dogs? We have them

around here, they'll come out to find stray or feral dogs in the

area, and dispose of them.. but nobody will get rid of a skunk

living under your house or a raccoon living in your yard and

eating your plants.. (Have a groundhog living somewhere around

here.. that Earl caught at 's Double (tuberous) Begonias he

just planted this weekend.. he's volunteering for suicide before

too long as well)..

We had a raccoon living in a wood pile, or nearby, in our yard..

it scraped with our cat (that's not saying that Baxter didn't

instigate the fight).. but when I called the game commission.. I

was told I wasn't allowed to kill it.. and that they no longer

came out with traps to catch them and remove them from property

either... One of those box trap things cost around $100 back

then.. just so we could move the thing from our yard to the

woods somewhere?.. I think Baxter finally convinced Mr. Raccoon

to move on, but not before he nearly got me a round of Rabies

vaccine!..

I am so sorry that the dogs did this to your turkeys.. Did they

kill the turkeys maliciously, or do you think they could

possibly be "packing" up to find food?

HUGS

|)onna

Yes, we have guns. And when those dogs are

caught back here again they will be shot. Arizona law is behind

us on this and a livestock owner is allowed to shoot to kill any

dog that is harassing livestock and especially killing

livestock. You make a good point, Debbi, about the dangers of

these dogs and what they could do to a child. I have little

grandkids who are now afraid.

hugs

Sharon

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From:

Debbi Meyers-brant

To:

MSersLife

Sent: Sat,

May 21, 2011 11:44:31 AM

Subject:

Re: roaming dogs killed our turkeys ( debbi )

oh i am so

sorry, you got a gun, sorry but if they can get in

that way as big as it is , think what they could do

to a person , a child ...

Subject: roaming dogs killed our turkeys

To: "Group" <mserslife >

Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:48 PM

We woke to

all three turkeys (Narraganset)

slaughtered this morning. The dogs

broke through the side of their

enclosure which was 3 feet of wood on

the bottom and chicken wire up to

about 12 feet. We had one turkey hen

sitting on a bunch of eggs. There is

black dog hair and yellow dog hair on

the fence with at least three sets of

dog prints all around the enclosure.

Apparently we need even bigger, more

secure fencing for our animals. You

would think an enclosure 12 tall would

be enough. Thankfully they quit at

the turkeys and didn't go after the

ducks and chickens, too.

Sharon

This email is a

natural hand made product. The

slight variations in spelling

and grammar enhance its

individual character and beauty

and in no way are to be

considered flaws or defects.

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Sharon,

Like Debbi, my first thought was... You don't need stronger

fence.. you need a gun..

Just make sure to aim true, and the predator is no more, even if

it takes more than one shot. I say this, even after Earl, just

had to have his cat put down.. when someone used either a small

caliber or BB Gun (though the vet thought more like small

caliber) on him.

Earl was going to fork out the $418 to try and save Dart's life,

but once the vet got in, he called Earl and told him that the

damage to his intestines were severe (3/4 damaged), and that he

could remove the damage and try to restore what he could, for

another $500.. but would not guarantee that even that surgery

would save Dart's life.. Earl called his dad and called me for

us to reassure him that the best option was to put Dart to

sleep....

I can totally see killing a nuisance animal, one that is killing

other livestock & such, but just wounding them to allow them

to suffer until they die.. uhh.. I'm with Earl on the baseball

bat idea should he find out who did the shooting.. AND. he found

out, from the vet, that his cat was not the only one shot in his

area around the same time.. so someone is definitely out to

inflict a cartload of suffering on these little guys..

Are there any animal control offices in your area that you can

contact, and have them go out and find those dogs? We have them

around here, they'll come out to find stray or feral dogs in the

area, and dispose of them.. but nobody will get rid of a skunk

living under your house or a raccoon living in your yard and

eating your plants.. (Have a groundhog living somewhere around

here.. that Earl caught at 's Double (tuberous) Begonias he

just planted this weekend.. he's volunteering for suicide before

too long as well)..

We had a raccoon living in a wood pile, or nearby, in our yard..

it scraped with our cat (that's not saying that Baxter didn't

instigate the fight).. but when I called the game commission.. I

was told I wasn't allowed to kill it.. and that they no longer

came out with traps to catch them and remove them from property

either... One of those box trap things cost around $100 back

then.. just so we could move the thing from our yard to the

woods somewhere?.. I think Baxter finally convinced Mr. Raccoon

to move on, but not before he nearly got me a round of Rabies

vaccine!..

I am so sorry that the dogs did this to your turkeys.. Did they

kill the turkeys maliciously, or do you think they could

possibly be "packing" up to find food?

HUGS

|)onna

Yes, we have guns. And when those dogs are

caught back here again they will be shot. Arizona law is behind

us on this and a livestock owner is allowed to shoot to kill any

dog that is harassing livestock and especially killing

livestock. You make a good point, Debbi, about the dangers of

these dogs and what they could do to a child. I have little

grandkids who are now afraid.

hugs

Sharon

This email is a natural hand made product.

The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its

individual character and beauty and in no way are to be

considered flaws or defects.

From:

Debbi Meyers-brant

To:

MSersLife

Sent: Sat,

May 21, 2011 11:44:31 AM

Subject:

Re: roaming dogs killed our turkeys ( debbi )

oh i am so

sorry, you got a gun, sorry but if they can get in

that way as big as it is , think what they could do

to a person , a child ...

Subject: roaming dogs killed our turkeys

To: "Group" <mserslife >

Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:48 PM

We woke to

all three turkeys (Narraganset)

slaughtered this morning. The dogs

broke through the side of their

enclosure which was 3 feet of wood on

the bottom and chicken wire up to

about 12 feet. We had one turkey hen

sitting on a bunch of eggs. There is

black dog hair and yellow dog hair on

the fence with at least three sets of

dog prints all around the enclosure.

Apparently we need even bigger, more

secure fencing for our animals. You

would think an enclosure 12 tall would

be enough. Thankfully they quit at

the turkeys and didn't go after the

ducks and chickens, too.

Sharon

This email is a

natural hand made product. The

slight variations in spelling

and grammar enhance its

individual character and beauty

and in no way are to be

considered flaws or defects.