chelating with weak adrenals

[Guest guest]

" Are you having problems getting HC or do you have some

reservations about trying it? "

Hi, . I still have the source you emailed me, and I think I am going to

order some tonight.

I was planning on seeing a doctor in Chicago, who would prescribe it to me, but

now I think I am going to wait a while. I am going to have insurance, hopefully

effective May 1st. I do need to order some to get by until then.

The last four days I have been so fatigued. When that happens, my mood gets

really bad- I couldn't stop crying long enough to even walk into work today and

I have no reason (other than the fatigue) to even be upset. I was nauseous this

morning, too, which can be a symptom of AF, right? This isn't even a normal

symptom of mine- I think I am getting worse. It wasn't the flu kind of nauseous.

I have absolutely no tolerance for stress today, and just want to sit and cry

for no reason.

I did have low cortisol last August. I should be getting canary club test

results next week, but I don't really want to wait that long to order the HC. I

really doubt my adrenals are doing much better than last year, if at all.

I don't think it is my thyroid, because my temps are normal and I am not cold. I

do need my thyroid looked at, because I am not tolerating iodine at all- even 35

mcg without getting hyper symtpoms. I was hypo before trying the iodine.

Do I just start with 20 mg HC right away, or do I work up? I know to divide them

where I am getting more of it in the a.m. My ND has my AI book, so I can't

reference it. I am sure it is collecting dust and/or cobwebs, but I hope I am

wrong...

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

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> I was able to order some HC, but it will be a couple weeks before I

get it...

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> I will probably try 's HC recommendation dosage found here:

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=994

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I would be more inclined to use recommendations from Andy's " Amalgam

Illness " book (pages 118-121).

Taking a bedtime dose may be helpful or even necessary for some

extremely adrenally weak people, but not necessary for all.

What you want to find is the lowest dose that is sufficient.

J

> I am sure I will be posting my canary club results next week (or the

week after) to get input on my thyroid, etc.

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> Thanks,

> Olif

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[Guest guest]

My adrenals are pretty bad. I am on 25-30 mg HC, in 5 divided doses- I can't get

down to 4 doses/day. I am wondering if I might have the need to increase the HC

while on rounds. Do others have that need? My body is pretty good at telling me

when I need to increase the HC. I start to get shaky, heavy heart beating, etc.

that is alleviated when I dose. I haven't chelated, since starting HC, so I

don't know what to expect.

Since I am already at a high dose of HC, I am worried about needing to go above

this amount.

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

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" I encourage you to continue to look for other supplements/medications

that may help to decrease the need for HC. Have you optimized thyroid

medication for example? "

I am not on Armour yet, and I have Hashi's. I also believe I am having an active

attack right now, because I can feel inflammation in my thyroid (or something

there anyway). I am sure that could increase my needs for HC, right? I see the

doctor tomorrow and should be starting Armour then.

" If you find that you feel a need to increase the HC on rounds or at

the end of rounds, then you are using doses of chelator that are too

high for you. "

Okay, this is good to know!

I have Jefferies' book and am reading it now. I am trying to figure out why my

ND is so against HC, even something like IsoCort. Is she just probably not aware

of Jefferies' work, or are some practitioners aware of it and just don't agree

with it?

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

:

" I encourage you to continue to look for other supplements/medications

that may help to decrease the need for HC. Have you optimized thyroid

medication for example? "

I am not on Armour yet, and I have Hashi's. I also believe I am having an active

attack right now, because I can feel inflammation in my thyroid (or something

there anyway). I am sure that could increase my needs for HC, right? I see the

doctor tomorrow and should be starting Armour then.

" If you find that you feel a need to increase the HC on rounds or at

the end of rounds, then you are using doses of chelator that are too

high for you. "

Okay, this is good to know!

I have Jefferies' book and am reading it now. I am trying to figure out why my

ND is so against HC, even something like IsoCort. Is she just probably not aware

of Jefferies' work, or are some practitioners aware of it and just don't agree

with it?

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

:

" I encourage you to continue to look for other supplements/medications

that may help to decrease the need for HC. Have you optimized thyroid

medication for example? "

I am not on Armour yet, and I have Hashi's. I also believe I am having an active

attack right now, because I can feel inflammation in my thyroid (or something

there anyway). I am sure that could increase my needs for HC, right? I see the

doctor tomorrow and should be starting Armour then.

" If you find that you feel a need to increase the HC on rounds or at

the end of rounds, then you are using doses of chelator that are too

high for you. "

Okay, this is good to know!

I have Jefferies' book and am reading it now. I am trying to figure out why my

ND is so against HC, even something like IsoCort. Is she just probably not aware

of Jefferies' work, or are some practitioners aware of it and just don't agree

with it?

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

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> I am not on Armour yet, and I have Hashi's. I also believe I am

>having an active attack right now, because I can feel inflammation in

>my thyroid (or something there anyway). I am sure that could increase

>my needs for HC, right?

Yes

> I see the doctor tomorrow and should be starting Armour then.

>

Good.

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>

> I have Jefferies' book and am reading it now. I am trying to figure

>out why my ND is so against HC, even something like IsoCort. Is she

>just probably not aware of Jefferies' work, or are some practitioners

>aware of it and just don't agree with it?

>

Most doctors have been scared by stories of patients having problems

after being on long term _pharmacological_ doses of cortisol (much

larger than the doses Jefferies uses). Those problems have confused

the medical community. Most doctors are not aware of Jefferies work.

Some are aware of it but haven't looked closely and are still scared.

Jefferies explains it fairly well in his book.

J

> Thanks,

> Olif

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[Guest guest]

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> I am not on Armour yet, and I have Hashi's. I also believe I am

>having an active attack right now, because I can feel inflammation in

>my thyroid (or something there anyway). I am sure that could increase

>my needs for HC, right?

Yes

> I see the doctor tomorrow and should be starting Armour then.

>

Good.

>

>

> I have Jefferies' book and am reading it now. I am trying to figure

>out why my ND is so against HC, even something like IsoCort. Is she

>just probably not aware of Jefferies' work, or are some practitioners

>aware of it and just don't agree with it?

>

Most doctors have been scared by stories of patients having problems

after being on long term _pharmacological_ doses of cortisol (much

larger than the doses Jefferies uses). Those problems have confused

the medical community. Most doctors are not aware of Jefferies work.

Some are aware of it but haven't looked closely and are still scared.

Jefferies explains it fairly well in his book.

J

> Thanks,

> Olif

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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> I am not on Armour yet, and I have Hashi's. I also believe I am

>having an active attack right now, because I can feel inflammation in

>my thyroid (or something there anyway). I am sure that could increase

>my needs for HC, right?

Yes

> I see the doctor tomorrow and should be starting Armour then.

>

Good.

>

>

> I have Jefferies' book and am reading it now. I am trying to figure

>out why my ND is so against HC, even something like IsoCort. Is she

>just probably not aware of Jefferies' work, or are some practitioners

>aware of it and just don't agree with it?

>

Most doctors have been scared by stories of patients having problems

after being on long term _pharmacological_ doses of cortisol (much

larger than the doses Jefferies uses). Those problems have confused

the medical community. Most doctors are not aware of Jefferies work.

Some are aware of it but haven't looked closely and are still scared.

Jefferies explains it fairly well in his book.

J

> Thanks,

> Olif

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