Re: Thyroid dumping and Rt3

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response. I'm just really trying to know whether t3 only would

truly help, or be one more thing that makes me worse.

So, here is some more info and the answers to your questions:

Ferritin is 56.

Was only on the HC for a total of 10 days, and most of that was only at a dose

of 2.5 or 5.0 for the entire day. (Never got any lift from being on it; in fact,

was much, much worse.) Yes, afternoon temps have remained between 98.4 and 98.6

these past two days with zero HC.

Had a saliva adrenal test done in Feb. Came back with high cortisol at all

times. Was on adrenal adaptogen supplement (lab did not say to stop), so don't

know if that skewed results.

Pulse is always consistently 68-72 (except when I was dumping and on HC)

Since my basal temp is right in right range, 98.0-98.1 (and always has been),

and my afternoon temps have remained in target range, as well, how would I even

know how to dose if I did t3 only? What would be my goal/guideline for doing so?

Even more confusing (at least to me) is I don't seem to have many of the

traditional hypo symptoms. I have all my eyebrows, no swollen tongue, good

reflexes (when the doctor checks), absolutely no constipation, no weight gain.

In fact, I have lost 18 pounds over the past six months (since this all began),

and I was already thin. Eating 2,000 calories, and I still can't gain a pound

back.

I do have dry skin, hair falling out, and now (since on the dessicated thyroid)

incredible fatigue, muscle weakness and clearly high antibodies of Hashi.

So, are you thinking that once lab results numbers are like mine for rt3 and

antibodies that nothing else (e.g. lowering cortisol, doing a different ratio of

T4 and T3)would make a difference . . .that t3 is really the only thing that

will make me feel better?

Thanks.

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> >So, in light of all of the above, go more slowly on increases for the

dessicated and redraw blood before trying to go just on t-3?

>

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> >Free t3 3.7 (range 2.3-4.2)

> >Free t4 1.1 (range 0.8-1.18)

> >R3 389 (range 90-350)

> >TPO 1766 (range less than 60)

>

> If there was a dump influencing things greatly then FT3 and FT4 would

> have both been very high.

>

> That RT3 is horrible and so are the TPO antibodies.

>

> Going T3 only will help both. There is a very low chance of natural

> helping the RT3

>

> Are your temperature averages OK having stopped HC?

>

> Is your ferritin at least 70??

>

> Nick

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> --

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> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response. I'm just really trying to know whether t3 only would

truly help, or be one more thing that makes me worse.

So, here is some more info and the answers to your questions:

Ferritin is 56.

Was only on the HC for a total of 10 days, and most of that was only at a dose

of 2.5 or 5.0 for the entire day. (Never got any lift from being on it; in fact,

was much, much worse.) Yes, afternoon temps have remained between 98.4 and 98.6

these past two days with zero HC.

Had a saliva adrenal test done in Feb. Came back with high cortisol at all

times. Was on adrenal adaptogen supplement (lab did not say to stop), so don't

know if that skewed results.

Pulse is always consistently 68-72 (except when I was dumping and on HC)

Since my basal temp is right in right range, 98.0-98.1 (and always has been),

and my afternoon temps have remained in target range, as well, how would I even

know how to dose if I did t3 only? What would be my goal/guideline for doing so?

Even more confusing (at least to me) is I don't seem to have many of the

traditional hypo symptoms. I have all my eyebrows, no swollen tongue, good

reflexes (when the doctor checks), absolutely no constipation, no weight gain.

In fact, I have lost 18 pounds over the past six months (since this all began),

and I was already thin. Eating 2,000 calories, and I still can't gain a pound

back.

I do have dry skin, hair falling out, and now (since on the dessicated thyroid)

incredible fatigue, muscle weakness and clearly high antibodies of Hashi.

So, are you thinking that once lab results numbers are like mine for rt3 and

antibodies that nothing else (e.g. lowering cortisol, doing a different ratio of

T4 and T3)would make a difference . . .that t3 is really the only thing that

will make me feel better?

Thanks.

>

> >

> >So, in light of all of the above, go more slowly on increases for the

dessicated and redraw blood before trying to go just on t-3?

>

> >

> >Free t3 3.7 (range 2.3-4.2)

> >Free t4 1.1 (range 0.8-1.18)

> >R3 389 (range 90-350)

> >TPO 1766 (range less than 60)

>

> If there was a dump influencing things greatly then FT3 and FT4 would

> have both been very high.

>

> That RT3 is horrible and so are the TPO antibodies.

>

> Going T3 only will help both. There is a very low chance of natural

> helping the RT3

>

> Are your temperature averages OK having stopped HC?

>

> Is your ferritin at least 70??

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response. I'm just really trying to know whether t3 only would

truly help, or be one more thing that makes me worse.

So, here is some more info and the answers to your questions:

Ferritin is 56.

Was only on the HC for a total of 10 days, and most of that was only at a dose

of 2.5 or 5.0 for the entire day. (Never got any lift from being on it; in fact,

was much, much worse.) Yes, afternoon temps have remained between 98.4 and 98.6

these past two days with zero HC.

Had a saliva adrenal test done in Feb. Came back with high cortisol at all

times. Was on adrenal adaptogen supplement (lab did not say to stop), so don't

know if that skewed results.

Pulse is always consistently 68-72 (except when I was dumping and on HC)

Since my basal temp is right in right range, 98.0-98.1 (and always has been),

and my afternoon temps have remained in target range, as well, how would I even

know how to dose if I did t3 only? What would be my goal/guideline for doing so?

Even more confusing (at least to me) is I don't seem to have many of the

traditional hypo symptoms. I have all my eyebrows, no swollen tongue, good

reflexes (when the doctor checks), absolutely no constipation, no weight gain.

In fact, I have lost 18 pounds over the past six months (since this all began),

and I was already thin. Eating 2,000 calories, and I still can't gain a pound

back.

I do have dry skin, hair falling out, and now (since on the dessicated thyroid)

incredible fatigue, muscle weakness and clearly high antibodies of Hashi.

So, are you thinking that once lab results numbers are like mine for rt3 and

antibodies that nothing else (e.g. lowering cortisol, doing a different ratio of

T4 and T3)would make a difference . . .that t3 is really the only thing that

will make me feel better?

Thanks.

>

> >

> >So, in light of all of the above, go more slowly on increases for the

dessicated and redraw blood before trying to go just on t-3?

>

> >

> >Free t3 3.7 (range 2.3-4.2)

> >Free t4 1.1 (range 0.8-1.18)

> >R3 389 (range 90-350)

> >TPO 1766 (range less than 60)

>

> If there was a dump influencing things greatly then FT3 and FT4 would

> have both been very high.

>

> That RT3 is horrible and so are the TPO antibodies.

>

> Going T3 only will help both. There is a very low chance of natural

> helping the RT3

>

> Are your temperature averages OK having stopped HC?

>

> Is your ferritin at least 70??

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

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>Was only on the HC for a total of 10 days, and most of that was only at a dose

of 2.5 or 5.0 for the entire day. (Never got any lift from being on it; in fact,

was much, much worse.) Yes, afternoon temps have remained between 98.4 and 98.6

these past two days with zero HC.

HC at that dose often does make people worse, it lowers your own

production without replacing that amount hence leaving you lower.

The recommendation now is to start at 20

You need to join the adrenal group and post there after the weekend

when they open again

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

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>

>Was only on the HC for a total of 10 days, and most of that was only at a dose

of 2.5 or 5.0 for the entire day. (Never got any lift from being on it; in fact,

was much, much worse.) Yes, afternoon temps have remained between 98.4 and 98.6

these past two days with zero HC.

HC at that dose often does make people worse, it lowers your own

production without replacing that amount hence leaving you lower.

The recommendation now is to start at 20

You need to join the adrenal group and post there after the weekend

when they open again

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

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>So, are you thinking that once lab results numbers are like mine for rt3 and

antibodies that nothing else (e.g. lowering cortisol, doing a different ratio of

T4 and T3)would make a difference . . .that t3 is really the only thing that

will make me feel better?

We don't know, we know that going T3 only does clear RT3, first from

the serum and then much later from the receptors.

We don't know how low the serum levels need to go for receptors to

clear, hence we don't know how much T4 you can keep in the mix.

Sorry I can't be more help

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

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Were you not able to tolerate T3 only, or did you just choose to try a combo way

to reduce your RT3?

And how long has that worked for you in keeping the RT3 down?

Thanks

You will never get rid of Rt3 on desiccated unfortunately since

you are continuing to get T4 from your thryoid and the meds.

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> Kitty,

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> I have to disagree with you on this. I am taking 2 grains NT and 25mcg of T3

to reduce my RT3 issues. This was suggested to me by Val T. and has been working

very well. My ratio is now 17 and was previously 6. I am feeling great and able

to function throughout the day instead of dragging.

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