Re: Maternal second-cousin - LADA in this mix too???

[Guest guest]

To add to the mess - he also may have pre-LADA diabetes 1. He

said when he's tested, it's around 89-95 (both before and after

eating). I don't think you should EVER see a fasting level that

high. Post-prandial, maybe. Of course, if cortisol or thyroid is a

problem, then that could cause that. He also gets headaches after

eating something sugary sometimes. I'm thinking either

hyperglycemia, or a reactive hypo -which could point to low-cortisol

and problems with the counter-reg system.

His girlfriend also apparently has high BG, although she's not

overweight *at all*, which usually rules out T2, but not always.

She's 22, so pre-LADA is a possibiliy, especially if the LADA can be

a very-slow-progressing autoimmnity. Or she could have sub-clinical

thyroid or cortisol problems too (unlikely I think without my symptom

data).

God, yes - I can see why this list would tend to make people seem/

be hypochondriacs.

Jim

[Guest guest]

>>He

said when he's tested, it's around 89-95 (both before and after

eating). I don't think you should EVER see a fasting level that

high. <<

Hate to say thi Jim, but these are NORMAL fasting numbers. And if they are this

good AFTER eating they are great! Where on earth do you think they should be?

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[Guest guest]

OK.. Then Dr. B. was wrong - he says fasting should be 83 +-5 in

nondiabetics. If those are normal, then why the hell does the ADA

have the pre-diabetes fasting threshold at 99 (according to Dr. B.,

which is now suspect.. I haven't check on the ADA website)

Jim

> Hate to say thi Jim, but these are NORMAL fasting numbers. And if

> they are this good AFTER eating they are great!

[Guest guest]

OK.. Then Dr. B. was wrong - he says fasting should be 83 +-5 in

nondiabetics. If those are normal, then why the hell does the ADA

have the pre-diabetes fasting threshold at 99 (according to Dr. B.,

which is now suspect.. I haven't check on the ADA website)

Jim

> Hate to say thi Jim, but these are NORMAL fasting numbers. And if

> they are this good AFTER eating they are great!

[Guest guest]

I'm taking clinical nutrition in grad school and we're just learning

abotu diabetes. I've been taught that 110+ fasting is pre-diabetes.

126+ is diabetes. And this would be more than just on one

day...anyone can have a high level once in awhile for various reasons.

Liz

>

> I have been told the threshold is 109 > for prediabetes. While Dr

B's

> fating is IDEAL, there is alot of folks that are nto and never wil

ne=be

> Diabetic that do not have ideal munbers.

>

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

I'm taking clinical nutrition in grad school and we're just learning

abotu diabetes. I've been taught that 110+ fasting is pre-diabetes.

126+ is diabetes. And this would be more than just on one

day...anyone can have a high level once in awhile for various reasons.

Liz

>

> I have been told the threshold is 109 > for prediabetes. While Dr

B's

> fating is IDEAL, there is alot of folks that are nto and never wil

ne=be

> Diabetic that do not have ideal munbers.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

I'm taking clinical nutrition in grad school and we're just learning

abotu diabetes. I've been taught that 110+ fasting is pre-diabetes.

126+ is diabetes. And this would be more than just on one

day...anyone can have a high level once in awhile for various reasons.

Liz

>

> I have been told the threshold is 109 > for prediabetes. While Dr

B's

> fating is IDEAL, there is alot of folks that are nto and never wil

ne=be

> Diabetic that do not have ideal munbers.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>