Re: Re: Excessive Salivation/Supplements - Dean

[Guest guest]

Dean, I really appreciate your looking at this. One might suspect a careful,

organic diet would replace the need for supplements, but sadly that is not the

case. Most of these supplements were started one-two years before my amalgams

came out, and my doctors always talked about adrenals. I've seen at least five

different doctors and an endocrinologist, and although they all put me on

adrenal supplements without my bringing up the issue at all (exception: the

worthless endocrinologist), not a one discussed or will consider prescribing

cortisol. They seem to fear liability with it, yet will quickly prescribe any

number of other things. On the saliva testing graph, done last summer, my

cortisol levels follow the correct pattern through the course of the day. The

problem is that I start at the bottom of the normal range in the morning, & drop

below normal, to no levels, by evening. 11:00 am is pretty much the end of my

functional day when I don't take the stimulant. By

the time I reached doctors able to recognize mercury toxicity, many, many years

had passed and there was probably no adrenal function to speak of. I was quite

literally withering away. Continuing to live was some kind of cruel joke back

then.

Right now, if I'm taking everything, people don't know anything was ever

wrong. I work occasionally, volunteer for different things, & have meaningful

friendships & family relationships. Supplements address symptoms of

fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, and osteoarthritis, in addition to the obvious.

When I don't take the stimulant (10 mg 3 times per day), my pulse is in the

mid-high 50's and BP 108-112/68-72 and I'm mostly on my back. My 'bad'

cholesterol/triglycerides has been low and 'good' cholesterol is high. Most

typical blood & urine work comes up in normal ranges, although many immune

factors had been below normal range for years. I don't know why that wouldn't

have raised a doctor's eyebrow, but it didn't. Antithyroid antibodies had been

exceptionally high since first being tested 5 years ago, but were down 100

points (260's?) last summer. Endocrine matters were made much worse at around

age 35 when a complete hysterectomy was supposed to resolve everything,

and within months after this multiple chemical sensitivity had set in.

I appreciate your information on the phosphatidylserine. I just added it last

month because it made sense to me in the AI book and I suspected it was a good

thing. Should I keep up with the lecithin? I started that again recently, too,

but had dropped it after a trial a couple years ago as I didn't feel it did

anything. I don't produce adequate levels of any hormones (or, I suspect,

neurotransmitters) on my own.

If anything else is jumping out at you, please let me know. And if you have a

moment, please check my recent post on digestive issues. Maybe there's

something you can spot there that I've missed? I saw nutritionists, colon

therapists, accupunturists, and allergists trying to restore digestive health &

feel I made a great improvement as a result. I don't think I was really

absorbing much of any nutrients prior to that year of treatment, but suspect

that after a couple of decades of being unable to find the correct kind of help,

there's probably too much digestive scar tissue & allergy/autoimmune activity to

improve digestion much further. Amalgam removal eliminated severe dementia

immediately and tremors shortly afterward, but I can have days of

musculo-skeletal weakness, extreme fatigue & tripping over my feet/dropping

things if there's redistribution or I take ALA. Chronic fatigue & infections

set in quickly if I try dropping supplements and/or ease up on diet

restrictions.

Thanks so much, Dean. I would like to post my DDI hair test, but it's old and

I marked it up badly in trying to understand it. I did not meet counting rules

(most things hovered in the central green range, except high yellow calcium &

magnesium and low yellow lithium &

?strontium?) and had been on many supplements for a year when it was done.

All metals were in the green range, with mercury highest, followed by lead and

other dental metals, but rest assured this is a mercury issue. Many tests that

were done, all conclusive, and I had a very high electrical level in my

fillings. With a full mouth of metal in annual need of repairs by age 18, a

gold crown was put over a molar. The gold crown absessed a few years later and

was drilled to clean it out & filled with amalgam. (Somehow in here I managed

to get a college degree, have a rewarding career & have 3 kids!) The gold crown

was pulled & a bridge installed around age 38, followed by a year of improved

health, but the following year my dentist used gold (without asking my

preference) for another crown over a back molar. My amalgams came out two years

ago at age 47, and I had endodontic surgery for further absessing from the

original gold crown. I don't wish to do another hair

test as I feel the money is better spent on chelation & supplements.

Joanne

DeanNetwork dean@...> wrote:

One this that jumps out is you are taking Phosphatyl Serine (PS) that

is an ACTH dampener - meaning it causes you to release less cortisol. Then at

the same time you are taking supplements to increase cortisol.

PS can be used in initial stages of adrenal fatigue when you have high cortisol

eg late at night that keeps you awake.

But you would need to know from a Saliva test when you are low and when you are

high so you can co-odindate dosing properly. E.g. you might need cortisol in the

morning and PS at night.

Some people have high cortisol some times of the day and low cortisol others.

Good heavens that is a lot of supplements. Maybe if you get your adrenals healed

many other symptoms will vanish and some supplements can vanish too! I've got a

mini health shop in my house.

I'm more and more coming to the conclusion that if your adrenals are in trouble

so are you. They produce the only hormone essential to health, cortisol, and yet

doctors know nothing about them. Doctors jump for cortisol (in various forms)

when someone is in real trouble to supplement adrenal function, but ask them

what they are doing and they are adamant it has nothing to do with the adrenals.

It really infuriates me, the arrogance of medical doctors is astounding.

Dean

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

Could you tell us what each is supplement is intended for and what it does for

you.

Cortisol is vital.

The body can't heal without it. I'm glad I understand that now. Wish more

doctors would.

A few months ago I took cortisol for about 6 weeks just to give my adrenals a

break and it was fantastic for me.

I have no experience with lecithin. So can't advise you there.

Will look at your other post, has the glutamine helped your gut?

Please email your old hair test to me. If it the file is too big I'll just pop

it up temporarily for us all to see.

I believe hair tests are wonderful. Will take one a year for the rest of my

life.

Dean

Re: Re: Excessive Salivation/Supplements -

Dean

Dean, I really appreciate your looking at this. One might suspect a careful,

organic diet would replace the need for supplements, but sadly that is not the

case. Most of these supplements were started one-two years before my amalgams

came out, and my doctors always talked about adrenals. I've seen at least five

different doctors and an endocrinologist, and although they all put me on

adrenal supplements without my bringing up the issue at all (exception: the

worthless endocrinologist), not a one discussed or will consider prescribing

cortisol. They seem to fear liability with it, yet will quickly prescribe any

number of other things. On the saliva testing graph, done last summer, my

cortisol levels follow the correct pattern through the course of the day. The

problem is that I start at the bottom of the normal range in the morning, & drop

below normal, to no levels, by evening. 11:00 am is pretty much the end of my

functional day when I don't take the stimulant. By

the time I reached doctors able to recognize mercury toxicity, many, many

years had passed and there was probably no adrenal function to speak of. I was

quite literally withering away. Continuing to live was some kind of cruel joke

back then.

Right now, if I'm taking everything, people don't know anything was ever

wrong. I work occasionally, volunteer for different things, & have meaningful

friendships & family relationships. Supplements address symptoms of

fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, and osteoarthritis, in addition to the obvious.

When I don't take the stimulant (10 mg 3 times per day), my pulse is in the

mid-high 50's and BP 108-112/68-72 and I'm mostly on my back. My 'bad'

cholesterol/triglycerides has been low and 'good' cholesterol is high. Most

typical blood & urine work comes up in normal ranges, although many immune

factors had been below normal range for years. I don't know why that wouldn't

have raised a doctor's eyebrow, but it didn't. Antithyroid antibodies had been

exceptionally high since first being tested 5 years ago, but were down 100

points (260's?) last summer. Endocrine matters were made much worse at around

age 35 when a complete hysterectomy was supposed to resolve everything,

and within months after this multiple chemical sensitivity had set in.

I appreciate your information on the phosphatidylserine. I just added it last

month because it made sense to me in the AI book and I suspected it was a good

thing. Should I keep up with the lecithin? I started that again recently, too,

but had dropped it after a trial a couple years ago as I didn't feel it did

anything. I don't produce adequate levels of any hormones (or, I suspect,

neurotransmitters) on my own.

If anything else is jumping out at you, please let me know. And if you have a

moment, please check my recent post on digestive issues. Maybe there's something

you can spot there that I've missed? I saw nutritionists, colon therapists,

accupunturists, and allergists trying to restore digestive health & feel I made

a great improvement as a result. I don't think I was really absorbing much of

any nutrients prior to that year of treatment, but suspect that after a couple

of decades of being unable to find the correct kind of help, there's probably

too much digestive scar tissue & allergy/autoimmune activity to improve

digestion much further. Amalgam removal eliminated severe dementia immediately

and tremors shortly afterward, but I can have days of musculo-skeletal weakness,

extreme fatigue & tripping over my feet/dropping things if there's

redistribution or I take ALA. Chronic fatigue & infections set in quickly if I

try dropping supplements and/or ease up on diet

restrictions.

Thanks so much, Dean. I would like to post my DDI hair test, but it's old and

I marked it up badly in trying to understand it. I did not meet counting rules

(most things hovered in the central green range, except high yellow calcium &

magnesium and low yellow lithium &

?strontium?) and had been on many supplements for a year when it was done. All

metals were in the green range, with mercury highest, followed by lead and other

dental metals, but rest assured this is a mercury issue. Many tests that were

done, all conclusive, and I had a very high electrical level in my fillings.

With a full mouth of metal in annual need of repairs by age 18, a gold crown was

put over a molar. The gold crown absessed a few years later and was drilled to

clean it out & filled with amalgam. (Somehow in here I managed to get a college

degree, have a rewarding career & have 3 kids!) The gold crown was pulled & a

bridge installed around age 38, followed by a year of improved health, but the

following year my dentist used gold (without asking my preference) for another

crown over a back molar. My amalgams came out two years ago at age 47, and I had

endodontic surgery for further absessing from the original gold crown. I don't

wish to do another hair

test as I feel the money is better spent on chelation & supplements.

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