Re: ALA safe to use during dumping phase?

[Guest guest]

TK--- if you you think your body burden is high start with dmsa or dmps

alone to reduce body burden first - many people have to.

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> If my organs are dumping ... isn't it risky to use ALA? We have to

> wait 3 months after amalgams are out because of the body burden ...

if

> the body burden goes back up how can it be safe to use ALA?

>

> K

>

[Guest guest]

Would love to use one of the DMs ... BUT ... I've had a regular MD,

a holistic MD and a naturopath ... three opinions ... tell me that I

am not a good candidate for the DMs because I am borderline on

neutropenia. I have been for years. Right on the edge normally.

Anything that affects neutrophil count knocks me under the accepted

level. According to Andy's book ... the DMs are included. I have a

young kid and a young puppy and I don't need bacterial issues. So

that's why I am trying ALA alone. So ... do I wait ... or keep

trying but at the tiny dose of 3 mg.? Or do I just increase my mag

up to 1000 mg. or more ... as really the twitchys are my only

symptom? That is my question. I KNOW people have done it ALA alone.

> >

> > If my organs are dumping ... isn't it risky to use ALA? We have

to

> > wait 3 months after amalgams are out because of the body

burden ...

> if

> > the body burden goes back up how can it be safe to use ALA?

> >

> > K

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > If my organs are dumping ... isn't it risky to use ALA? We have

> to

> > > wait 3 months after amalgams are out because of the body

> burden ...

> > if

> > > the body burden goes back up how can it be safe to use ALA?

> > >

> > > K

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

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> Would love to use one of the DMs ... BUT ... I've had a regular MD,

> a holistic MD and a naturopath ... three opinions ... tell me that I

> am not a good candidate for the DMs because I am borderline on

> neutropenia. I have been for years. Right on the edge normally.

I thought muscle twitches and tingling were your only problem?

Neutropenia is certainly a problem that mercury can cause.

I had mild to moderate neutropenia for years before starting

chelation. I used DMSA anyway because I knew that lead was part

of my problems. I worried about the low neutrophil issue at times,

but I don't think DMSA really made much difference. I did have a

couple of CBC/diff done right after the end of rounds on a couple

of occasions. No difference from my usual range of neutrophils.

I think I took a month off chelation at one point due to my own

worries about this, but not sure it was necessary.

However, I did have a big workup for this (long before chelation)

by a hematologist who ruled out any of the serious causes of low

neutrophils. If neutropenia has been an ongoing problem, you may

want to have that done.

I don't think DMPS is known to cause any problems with neutrophils.

Regardless what you decide about DMSA/DMPS, check out the neutrophils

file in the files section for ideas on how to improve the problem.

Acupuncture and TCM herbs also seem to help me with neutrophils

and overall white count.

> Anything that affects neutrophil count knocks me under the accepted

> level. According to Andy's book ... the DMs are included. I have a

If you are talking about below the low end of the normal range, this

is probably not an issue. If you are talking about moderate (below

1.5) or severe (below 1.0) neutropenia, that is more significant.

When I had low numbers in that range, my MD recommended the hematology

workup I mentioned above.

> young kid and a young puppy and I don't need bacterial issues. So

> that's why I am trying ALA alone. So ... do I wait ... or keep

> trying but at the tiny dose of 3 mg.? Or do I just increase my mag

> up to 1000 mg. or more ... as really the twitchys are my only

> symptom? That is my question. I KNOW people have done it ALA alone.

I would consider trying more magnesium. For me, I needed 1200 mg

before I noticed any benefits. Everyone is an individual and I

can't say if this is something you need or not - the only way to

find out is to try. I find epsom salt baths more effective than

oral magnesium. I continue to use both. Epsom salt baths (or

foot soaks or cream) will not tend to cause loose stools like

oral magnesium can.

If you try epsom salt baths, I would not do what Andy says in the

book - he suggests using 3-4# in a tub of water. Yikes. I was

very sensitive to epsom salt baths at first. I would try maybe

a cup to start and if you have no problems, increase it maybe

1/2 cup at a time.

I suggest reading p. 98-99 and the first paragraph on p. 178

in regard to magnesium and potassium issues. Andy recommends

using potassium chloride (salt substitute) as a source of

potassium rather than taking a supplement due to potential

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