Re: starting chelation help???? panther crystal

[Guest guest]

Hi panther_crystal

It would help if you separate your reply from the message that you are

replying to.

For example, in the one below you could put your reply at the top and

then delete any irrelevent parts of the previous message.

I am assuming that your new message is this part:

> > i really need to get this started asap, what do you recommend to

> > take to heal the gut and get started?? also how can i get adrenals

> > and thyorid tested ???

> > thanks

> > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here adrenal

> test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you start ??

> >

>

I'll reply later. Got to go right now.

J

> > > >

> > > > hi there,

> > > >

> > > > i have been suffering from amalgam illness for 2 years and

> have

> > seen

> > > > various people, spent thousends of pounds and am still

> suffering.

> > > > i have purchased andy's book and am keen to start chelation

> > using his

> > > > protocol and would appreciate some good advice on starting.

> > >

> > >

> > > TK--- files section [general suggestions on starting]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > i have fluid and ringing in my ears, swollen tounge, floaters,

> > > > emotional problems,excess saliva. i have had all my amalgams

> > removed

> > > 4

> > > > weeks ago using rubber dam ect. it is very hard to get advice

> > from

> > > > anyone in the uk..

> > > > is it best to heal the gut before starting chelation?

> > >

> > >

> > > TK--- depends on the person, chelating will eventually be what

> can

> > help

> > > the most but supporting and trying to heal the gut before is

> > important

> > > for some.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > regards panth

> > > >

> > i really need to get this started asap, what do you recommend to

> > take to heal the gut and get started?? also how can i get adrenals

> > and thyorid tested ???

> > thanks

> > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here adrenal

> test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you start ??

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you recommend to

> > > take to heal the gut and get started??

Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod liver

oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine. Avoiding

grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk thistle,

taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

133-167).

>also how can i get adrenals

> > > and thyorid tested ???

Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on DDI

hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look for

indicators of toxicity.

There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section. There

is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where you

can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can get

an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with free

T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests through

a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus charge

you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

don't know how to interpret).

> > > thanks

> > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here adrenal

> > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you start ??

> > >

A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those problems.

If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these are

not advanced in your case (something that you would have to determine

from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

Illness " book.

Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

" From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky gut

was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two books

are often available in libraries.

Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

curative.

(You have already removed your amalgams I assume!)

J

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > > > hi there,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have been suffering from amalgam illness for 2 years and

> > have

> > > seen

> > > > > various people, spent thousends of pounds and am still

> > suffering.

> > > > > i have purchased andy's book and am keen to start chelation

> > > using his

> > > > > protocol and would appreciate some good advice on starting.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TK--- files section [general suggestions on starting]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > i have fluid and ringing in my ears, swollen tounge, floaters,

> > > > > emotional problems,excess saliva. i have had all my amalgams

> > > removed

> > > > 4

> > > > > weeks ago using rubber dam ect. it is very hard to get advice

> > > from

> > > > > anyone in the uk..

> > > > > is it best to heal the gut before starting chelation?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TK--- depends on the person, chelating will eventually be what

> > can

> > > help

> > > > the most but supporting and trying to heal the gut before is

> > > important

> > > > for some.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards panth

> > > > >

> > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you recommend to

> > > take to heal the gut and get started?? also how can i get adrenals

> > > and thyorid tested ???

> > > thanks

> > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here adrenal

> > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you start ??

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you recommend to

> > > take to heal the gut and get started??

Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod liver

oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine. Avoiding

grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk thistle,

taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

133-167).

>also how can i get adrenals

> > > and thyorid tested ???

Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on DDI

hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look for

indicators of toxicity.

There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section. There

is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where you

can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can get

an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with free

T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests through

a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus charge

you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

don't know how to interpret).

> > > thanks

> > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here adrenal

> > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you start ??

> > >

A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those problems.

If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these are

not advanced in your case (something that you would have to determine

from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

Illness " book.

Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

" From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky gut

was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two books

are often available in libraries.

Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

curative.

(You have already removed your amalgams I assume!)

J

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > > > hi there,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have been suffering from amalgam illness for 2 years and

> > have

> > > seen

> > > > > various people, spent thousends of pounds and am still

> > suffering.

> > > > > i have purchased andy's book and am keen to start chelation

> > > using his

> > > > > protocol and would appreciate some good advice on starting.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TK--- files section [general suggestions on starting]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > i have fluid and ringing in my ears, swollen tounge, floaters,

> > > > > emotional problems,excess saliva. i have had all my amalgams

> > > removed

> > > > 4

> > > > > weeks ago using rubber dam ect. it is very hard to get advice

> > > from

> > > > > anyone in the uk..

> > > > > is it best to heal the gut before starting chelation?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TK--- depends on the person, chelating will eventually be what

> > can

> > > help

> > > > the most but supporting and trying to heal the gut before is

> > > important

> > > > for some.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards panth

> > > > >

> > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you recommend to

> > > take to heal the gut and get started?? also how can i get adrenals

> > > and thyorid tested ???

> > > thanks

> > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here adrenal

> > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you start ??

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >hi linda you will have to bare with me here im just getting

used to writting these messages dont really know what im doing.

your response has been very helpful and interesting.i have had my

four amalgams removed a month ago and have done nothing since.

linda what do you do if your not absorbing to be able to heal gut ??

im pressuming im not absorbing as when i take b vitamin it would go

straight through me ??

> >

>

>

> >

> >

> > > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you

recommend to

> > > > take to heal the gut and get started??

>

>

>

> Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

> partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

> Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

>

> Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod

liver

> oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine.

Avoiding

> grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

>

> Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk

thistle,

> taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

> 133-167).

>

>

>

>

>

> >also how can i get adrenals

> > > > and thyorid tested ???

>

>

>

> Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on

DDI

> hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look

for

> indicators of toxicity.

>

> There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section.

There

> is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where

you

> can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can

get

> an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with

free

> T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests

through

> a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus

charge

> you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

> don't know how to interpret).

>

>

>

>

> > > > thanks

> > > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here

adrenal

> > > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you

start ??

> > > >

>

>

>

>

> A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those

problems.

> If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these

are

> not advanced in your case (something that you would have to

determine

> from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

> Illness " book.

>

> Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

> " From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

> book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky

gut

> was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two

books

> are often available in libraries.

>

> Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

> supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

> help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

> started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

> curative.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > >hi linda you will have to bare with me here im just getting

used to writting these messages dont really know what im doing.

your response has been very helpful and interesting.i have had my

four amalgams removed a month ago and have done nothing since.

linda what do you do if your not absorbing to be able to heal gut ??

im pressuming im not absorbing as when i take b vitamin it would go

straight through me ??

> >

>

>

> >

> >

> > > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you

recommend to

> > > > take to heal the gut and get started??

>

>

>

> Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

> partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

> Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

>

> Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod

liver

> oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine.

Avoiding

> grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

>

> Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk

thistle,

> taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

> 133-167).

>

>

>

>

>

> >also how can i get adrenals

> > > > and thyorid tested ???

>

>

>

> Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on

DDI

> hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look

for

> indicators of toxicity.

>

> There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section.

There

> is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where

you

> can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can

get

> an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with

free

> T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests

through

> a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus

charge

> you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

> don't know how to interpret).

>

>

>

>

> > > > thanks

> > > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here

adrenal

> > > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you

start ??

> > > >

>

>

>

>

> A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those

problems.

> If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these

are

> not advanced in your case (something that you would have to

determine

> from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

> Illness " book.

>

> Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

> " From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

> book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky

gut

> was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two

books

> are often available in libraries.

>

> Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

> supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

> help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

> started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

> curative.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > >hi linda you will have to bare with me here im just getting

used to writting these messages dont really know what im doing.

your response has been very helpful and interesting.i have had my

four amalgams removed a month ago and have done nothing since.

linda what do you do if your not absorbing to be able to heal gut ??

im pressuming im not absorbing as when i take b vitamin it would go

straight through me ??

> >

>

>

> >

> >

> > > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you

recommend to

> > > > take to heal the gut and get started??

>

>

>

> Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

> partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

> Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

>

> Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod

liver

> oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine.

Avoiding

> grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

>

> Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk

thistle,

> taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

> 133-167).

>

>

>

>

>

> >also how can i get adrenals

> > > > and thyorid tested ???

>

>

>

> Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on

DDI

> hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look

for

> indicators of toxicity.

>

> There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section.

There

> is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where

you

> can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can

get

> an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with

free

> T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests

through

> a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus

charge

> you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

> don't know how to interpret).

>

>

>

>

> > > > thanks

> > > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here

adrenal

> > > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you

start ??

> > > >

>

>

>

>

> A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those

problems.

> If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these

are

> not advanced in your case (something that you would have to

determine

> from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

> Illness " book.

>

> Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

> " From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

> book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky

gut

> was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two

books

> are often available in libraries.

>

> Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

> supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

> help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

> started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

> curative.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you

> recommend to

> > > > > take to heal the gut and get started??

> >

> >

> >

> > Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

> > partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

> > Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

> >

> > Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod

> liver

> > oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine.

> Avoiding

> > grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

> >

> > Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk

> thistle,

> > taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

> > 133-167).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >also how can i get adrenals

> > > > > and thyorid tested ???

> >

> >

> >

> > Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on

> DDI

> > hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look

> for

> > indicators of toxicity.

> >

> > There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section.

> There

> > is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where

> you

> > can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can

> get

> > an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with

> free

> > T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests

> through

> > a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus

> charge

> > you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

> > don't know how to interpret).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here

> adrenal

> > > > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you

> start ??

> > > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those

> problems.

> > If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these

> are

> > not advanced in your case (something that you would have to

> determine

> > from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

> > Illness " book.

> >

> > Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

> > " From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

> > book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky

> gut

> > was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two

> books

> > are often available in libraries.

> >

> > Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

> > supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

> > help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

> > started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

> > curative.

> >

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > i really need to get this started asap, what do you

> recommend to

> > > > > take to heal the gut and get started??

> >

> >

> >

> > Many of the supplements in the list that Andy recommends are there

> > partly to help to heal the gut. See pages 133- 134 of " Amalgam

> > Illness " and get started on the basic supplements.

> >

> > Some supplements that will start to help the gut to heal - cod

> liver

> > oil (1-2 T/day) or flax oil, magnesium, glutamine, glycine.

> Avoiding

> > grains, especially gluten grains, will help to heal the gut.

> >

> > Antioxidants will help to heal everything. B vitamins, milk

> thistle,

> > taurine help to support the liver. And so on and so forth (pages

> > 133-167).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >also how can i get adrenals

> > > > > and thyorid tested ???

> >

> >

> >

> > Often indicators of adrenal and thyroid problems will show up on

> DDI

> > hair tests. A hair test is a good starting point anyway to look

> for

> > indicators of toxicity.

> >

> > There are links to " adrenal information " in the links section.

> There

> > is also a link to " lab work " that will take you to ZRT labs, where

> you

> > can get a 4x per day saliva test for cortisol, DLS where you can

> get

> > an essential elements hair test and special thyroid panel (with

> free

> > T3 and free T4). (Sometimes it is possible to get these tests

> through

> > a doctor or naturopath, and they often inflate the prices plus

> charge

> > you at both ends to order the tests and to 'interpret' even if they

> > don't know how to interpret).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > >its very difficult to know what to do for the best here

> adrenal

> > > > test ? thyroid test ? leaky gut ? where on earth do you

> start ??

> > > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > A good starting point is to compare your symptoms to those

> problems.

> > If you have only been suffering for 2 years it may be that these

> are

> > not advanced in your case (something that you would have to

> determine

> > from your symptoms). Symptoms are discussed in Andy's " Amalgam

> > Illness " book.

> >

> > Another good book for discussion of adrenal and thyroid problems is

> > " From Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum (referenced in Andy's

> > book). The book that I found most useful for discussion of leaky

> gut

> > was " Protein Power Lifeplan " by Eades and Eades. Those last two

> books

> > are often available in libraries.

> >

> > Don't waste too much time. Andy has already summarized the

> > supplements that will help us, and given some information that will

> > help us to modify our diet in " Amalgam Illness " . It's best to get

> > started on chelation asap because chelation is what is ultimately

> > curative.

> >

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>