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at least at some level, *ALL* persons who present for care, either direct

to the ED or to 911 are worthy of our time...at least long enough for a

reasonable evaluation of their condition.

Now, what level of evaluation is appropriate is fraught with problems.

Personally, by the time I had finished a brief history and physical, 4

times out of 5, I had enough information to formulate a basic treatment plan

without further testing....and in over half of those cases, the argument was

if we should divert those folks to the walk in clinic at that time or just

go ahead and begin treatment with follow up with their primary care

provider...

ck

In a message dated 10/1/2009 11:26:07 Central Standard Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

I think this something... Time to maybe do some introspection?

Have we even had a decent clinical discussion other than the semi-regular

rant about being allowed to choose which patients you think are worthy of

your time?

-Wes Ogilvie

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I think this something...   Time to maybe do some introspection?

Have we even had a decent clinical discussion other than the semi-regular rant

about being allowed to choose which patients you think are worthy of your time?

-Wes Ogilvie

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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I think this something...   Time to maybe do some introspection?

Have we even had a decent clinical discussion other than the semi-regular rant

about being allowed to choose which patients you think are worthy of your time?

-Wes Ogilvie

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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I agree and I've only been on this list since shortly before nremt changed the

skills sheets a few months ago. I've gotten to the point I just delete the

emails and don't read them. I joined to see what nremt was doing since I was

about to test. All this back and forth as bryan mentioned reminds me of my 2

sisters who fight everyday..

D. Thacker FF/EMT-LP

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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I agree and I've only been on this list since shortly before nremt changed the

skills sheets a few months ago. I've gotten to the point I just delete the

emails and don't read them. I joined to see what nremt was doing since I was

about to test. All this back and forth as bryan mentioned reminds me of my 2

sisters who fight everyday..

D. Thacker FF/EMT-LP

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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I agree and I've only been on this list since shortly before nremt changed the

skills sheets a few months ago. I've gotten to the point I just delete the

emails and don't read them. I joined to see what nremt was doing since I was

about to test. All this back and forth as bryan mentioned reminds me of my 2

sisters who fight everyday..

D. Thacker FF/EMT-LP

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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It happens from time to time.

 

Anyone who has been on this list for any length of time will attest to that.

 

Although I hate to see the Right Reverend Bledson take a sabatical, I don't have

to worry about missing him too much, I know where he lives......:)

Hatfield

" The main part of intellectual education is not the acquisition of facts but

learning how to make facts live. " - Oliver Wendell Holmes

www.michaelwhatfield.net

Subject: Re: Signing Off

To: texasems-l

Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

I agree and I've only been on this list since shortly before nremt changed the

skills sheets a few months ago. I've gotten to the point I just delete the

emails and don't read them. I joined to see what nremt was doing since I was

about to test. All this back and forth as bryan mentioned reminds me of my 2

sisters who fight everyday..

D. Thacker FF/EMT-LP

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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It happens from time to time.

 

Anyone who has been on this list for any length of time will attest to that.

 

Although I hate to see the Right Reverend Bledson take a sabatical, I don't have

to worry about missing him too much, I know where he lives......:)

Hatfield

" The main part of intellectual education is not the acquisition of facts but

learning how to make facts live. " - Oliver Wendell Holmes

www.michaelwhatfield.net

Subject: Re: Signing Off

To: texasems-l

Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

I agree and I've only been on this list since shortly before nremt changed the

skills sheets a few months ago. I've gotten to the point I just delete the

emails and don't read them. I joined to see what nremt was doing since I was

about to test. All this back and forth as bryan mentioned reminds me of my 2

sisters who fight everyday..

D. Thacker FF/EMT-LP

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Signing Off

I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

(I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

drivel. This list is voluntary=2

0and people can post what they want. The

beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

C¹est la vie....

Bledsoe

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It is a shame that it came to this to show that the a little bit of insulance,

will drive people to give up on things that actually means alot to them. I have

seen the drive in Mr. Bledsoe and it is a shame to lose his thoughts on the

field that we all got in knowing what we were becoming involved in. I hope this

lose brings to light the actual reason we do what we do. I wish you lots of

luck and know that your insight will be missed.

>

> I have followed Texasems-l for years and will sometimes post something I

> think is of interest and will sometimes try and inject some humor. But, this

> list has turned dark with political and religious arguments and statements.

> Religious arguments are akin to kids arguing who has the best imaginary

> friend. We all have our political persuasions and these are a part of who we

> are. Yet, they rarely pertain to the practice of EMS and intellectual

> discussion. Texas is in a slump, yet we are faring better than much of the

> country (the unemployment rate in Las Vegas is 14%). This list is now

> nothing but politics, innuendo, and argument. There are posts about GETAC

> which, in my experience, is a totally inert advisory group. Hopefully,

> things will improve. I will still be a a part of Texas EMS as my schedule

> allows and will be speaking at the Texas EMS conference in Fort Worth (and

> in Austin thereafter). But, I have to say adios to Texasems-l. My computers

> (I have several in different locations) and my iPhone is filling with pure

> drivel. This list is voluntary and people can post what they want. The

> beauty of this list is that if you don¹t like what you are seeing, you can

> sign off. Therefore, I am signing off.

>

> C¹est la vie....

>

> Bledsoe

>

>

>

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