Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Rob, if you want to make your own " baked beans, " soybeans are about the lowest carb beans. Here, we can buy them dried at health food stores. If you have access to dried soybeans, I think I have a recipe somewhere in my archives and I'll try to find it later on. Courtesy of N. in Vermont, I believe. You here, ? Vicki Re: Re: Question > Hi Alan > > Just checked the can of supposed " Reduced sugar and salt " beans. > > Per 100gms > > Energy............302kj > Protein.............4.5gm > Fat..................0.3gm > Carbohydrate....12.6gm > Fibre................3.2gm > Sodium.............0.2gm > > All in all quite unsatisfactory - I won't be eating them. > > This stuff is a right con - charge 1.5 times the normal tin price and > the stuff inside is basically no different to the normal, wouldn't be > any healthier for anybody. > > Thanks for the tip. > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Rob, if you want to make your own " baked beans, " soybeans are about the lowest carb beans. Here, we can buy them dried at health food stores. If you have access to dried soybeans, I think I have a recipe somewhere in my archives and I'll try to find it later on. Courtesy of N. in Vermont, I believe. You here, ? Vicki Re: Re: Question > Hi Alan > > Just checked the can of supposed " Reduced sugar and salt " beans. > > Per 100gms > > Energy............302kj > Protein.............4.5gm > Fat..................0.3gm > Carbohydrate....12.6gm > Fibre................3.2gm > Sodium.............0.2gm > > All in all quite unsatisfactory - I won't be eating them. > > This stuff is a right con - charge 1.5 times the normal tin price and > the stuff inside is basically no different to the normal, wouldn't be > any healthier for anybody. > > Thanks for the tip. > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 You have my sympathy, Rob...there are many on this list who also have depression - I'm sure there are enough to start a separate diabetes/depression list. Maybe some of you can help Rob out here. There are many different kinds of depression meds and the only way to find out which works best for you is trial and error, so if you haven't tried them all, please don't give up -- just keep on trying to find the one that does the job for you. Also, I've read here that many times getting BGs under control does help to improve depression. Vicki Re: Re: Question > > > > Hi Alan > > > > Just checked the can of supposed " Reduced sugar and salt " beans. > > > > Per 100gms > > > > Energy............302kj > > Protein.............4.5gm > > Fat..................0.3gm > > Carbohydrate....12.6gm > > Fibre................3.2gm > > Sodium.............0.2gm > > > > All in all quite unsatisfactory - I won't be eating them. > > > > This stuff is a right con - charge 1.5 times the normal tin price > and > > the stuff inside is basically no different to the normal, wouldn't > be > > any healthier for anybody. > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > Rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 You have my sympathy, Rob...there are many on this list who also have depression - I'm sure there are enough to start a separate diabetes/depression list. Maybe some of you can help Rob out here. There are many different kinds of depression meds and the only way to find out which works best for you is trial and error, so if you haven't tried them all, please don't give up -- just keep on trying to find the one that does the job for you. Also, I've read here that many times getting BGs under control does help to improve depression. Vicki Re: Re: Question > > > > Hi Alan > > > > Just checked the can of supposed " Reduced sugar and salt " beans. > > > > Per 100gms > > > > Energy............302kj > > Protein.............4.5gm > > Fat..................0.3gm > > Carbohydrate....12.6gm > > Fibre................3.2gm > > Sodium.............0.2gm > > > > All in all quite unsatisfactory - I won't be eating them. > > > > This stuff is a right con - charge 1.5 times the normal tin price > and > > the stuff inside is basically no different to the normal, wouldn't > be > > any healthier for anybody. > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > Rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 > I am really getting more and more depressed everytime I think about this. As I said I all ready suffer from clinical depression and the pit just seems to be getting deeper. I haven't experienced severe depression myself so I probably don't have any useful advice about that. I do know my husband's medical team asked if he is depressed and I took this to mean they are studying its association with diabetes. My suggestion is it seems the diet issue is stressing you even more. Maybe a way to reduce that stress is to not try to do everything at once. You may find it fairly simple to make some major changes in your diet as a first step without attempting at this time to go as low as Bernstein recommends. Simply cut out all carbs that you can. " Eat nothing white. " Sugar, potatoes, rice are not good. Pasta is not as bad but should be eaten in moderation if at all. The less processed food is the better because it digests slower and gives you more nutrition. For example, bread with sprouted or other whole grains in it is better than even whole wheat bread. When you want bread, use one slice rather than two. We can buy bran and flax cereals that are not terribly high in carbs and on days my husband gets cereal it's with yoghurt rather than milk. Fruit juices are not good. V8 or tomato is better. Eat meat and vegetables and salads for lunch and dinner. Nuts and cheese are something easy to grab and reasonable. Cut the amount of those carb rich foods that you continue to eat and replace it with low carb food. Beans are good because they have fiber and fiber is reputed to be good for diabetics but they do have quite a lot of carbs. Gil's dietitian recommends them, along with whole grain breads and flax and bran cereals. Also, exercise is supposed to be good for diabetics (probably re insulin resistance) and I have read it is excellent for depression. Even walking is better than no exercise at all. We are biking. Regarding the testing, my husband's prescription is for only 5 test strips a week. I need to argue with them again because I am using more than that. I think at least at first it is useful to know what certain foods and activities do to your body. Once type 2's get on a regimen that works I can imagine that that amount of testing could be sufficient. But especially if you are on drugs or insulin and you change things, you need to know what the effect is. My husband's response to additional supplements and a low carb diet and exercise was enormous although not instantaneous. Try just one step at a time with simple steps that you can carry out. Hopefully they will result in some progress. Then if you feel good about the changes you can try to make more changes. You didn't say whether your blood sugar is under reasonable control at this time or not. Wishing you the best, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 > I am really getting more and more depressed everytime I think about this. As I said I all ready suffer from clinical depression and the pit just seems to be getting deeper. I haven't experienced severe depression myself so I probably don't have any useful advice about that. I do know my husband's medical team asked if he is depressed and I took this to mean they are studying its association with diabetes. My suggestion is it seems the diet issue is stressing you even more. Maybe a way to reduce that stress is to not try to do everything at once. You may find it fairly simple to make some major changes in your diet as a first step without attempting at this time to go as low as Bernstein recommends. Simply cut out all carbs that you can. " Eat nothing white. " Sugar, potatoes, rice are not good. Pasta is not as bad but should be eaten in moderation if at all. The less processed food is the better because it digests slower and gives you more nutrition. For example, bread with sprouted or other whole grains in it is better than even whole wheat bread. When you want bread, use one slice rather than two. We can buy bran and flax cereals that are not terribly high in carbs and on days my husband gets cereal it's with yoghurt rather than milk. Fruit juices are not good. V8 or tomato is better. Eat meat and vegetables and salads for lunch and dinner. Nuts and cheese are something easy to grab and reasonable. Cut the amount of those carb rich foods that you continue to eat and replace it with low carb food. Beans are good because they have fiber and fiber is reputed to be good for diabetics but they do have quite a lot of carbs. Gil's dietitian recommends them, along with whole grain breads and flax and bran cereals. Also, exercise is supposed to be good for diabetics (probably re insulin resistance) and I have read it is excellent for depression. Even walking is better than no exercise at all. We are biking. Regarding the testing, my husband's prescription is for only 5 test strips a week. I need to argue with them again because I am using more than that. I think at least at first it is useful to know what certain foods and activities do to your body. Once type 2's get on a regimen that works I can imagine that that amount of testing could be sufficient. But especially if you are on drugs or insulin and you change things, you need to know what the effect is. My husband's response to additional supplements and a low carb diet and exercise was enormous although not instantaneous. Try just one step at a time with simple steps that you can carry out. Hopefully they will result in some progress. Then if you feel good about the changes you can try to make more changes. You didn't say whether your blood sugar is under reasonable control at this time or not. Wishing you the best, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Judy I don't know because all I know is that it should be between 4 and 7 according to what I have been told by my doctos. I have been testing 8 times a day for the last 2 days and the values are just over 7 when I get up, but they are in the 9's today and were between 9.5 and 11.5 yesterday. I don't know if every test should be below 7 or what. Nobody has really told me what to expect, the dibetes nurse at the doctors practise was worse than useless and basically threw a diet sheet at me saying you are obese lose weight. The consequence of her attitude was that for a month I was digging a sub-basement for the pit and didn't check my blood sugar at all. I am trying to get help from a charity but they haven't contacted me yet to arrange a meeting with one of their nurses. I am reading Gretchens book and its helping a bit but I have no baseline to start from so don't feel sure of myself at all. I eat yoghurt, but it is a low fat version with bits of fruit in it - is this stuff all right, because of the sugars in the fruit. I was told to eat lots of fruit - is that right. Confusion reigns supreme and is driving me insane. Being depressed all ready is definitely not helping the situation - I have been depressed for at least 2.5 years and probably more like 4-4.5 years. The best I feel is on an even keel not good but not bad - but with this I can't cope with it as well. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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