Re: MSNBC.com Article: Many women treat yeast infections that aren't

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I agree with Arline. I was told at the DOCTOR I don't have yeast but I had toenail fungus, acne, and digestive problems, along with a white discharge, white tongue. A natural doc and my family doc said I had a rare yeast on my tongue, but that was after several visits to gyns that said I did not have a yeast problem. There are SO many types of yeast, how can they test for them all? I do agree a lot of docs do not know that much about it. I went on the candida yeast diet and took antifungals that my doc gave me and after 4 months of that routine, the burning, itching and white discharge stopped. I started eating the old way and went through some stressful times and the problems came back. I would lean towards natural medicine if you think you have a yeast doctor, I found I got much more support and knowledge on the subjec.See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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"Many women treat yeast infections that aren'tOnly one in every four women who seeks treatment for persistent yeast infections actually has one, a new study suggests."

I hope that people only believe about 1 per cent of what they read, especially about yeast infections. But, of course,---one can believe anything one wants. I am seriously dubious of the propaganda that 75% of women who are treating for yeast don't really have it. I have much more faith in the good sense of womenkind. Now if one wants to venture the suggestion that the "tests" for discerning yeast and yeast reactions are somewhat inadequate, and the medical profession seems to not know anything about reoccurring yeast problems, I will concur. The picture that comes to mind is all of these hordes of women with chronic yeast are busily making tracks to the pharmacy to waste money by buying something to stuff up their nether parts for a little itch. Anything that characterizes women as being that ridiculous I reject. They have been saying that for years and

consequently I don't think the treatments of or the knowledge about vaginal yeast infections is any better now than it was ten years ago. Some research departments in other countries are busy trying to discover a med to combat the yeast that occurs for HIV patients and other illnesses but that doesn't include vaginal yeast problems, diagnosis, cause, cure, etc. All we get is that it is in the little lady's fuzzy little head. Wrong! So, I suspect those with unremitting yeast problems will still have them 20 years from now and they will still say the same thing.

Arline

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I disagree with much of your comment in that this article in no way reflects the negative issues about women which you have conjured up here.What of the ghazillions of men and women who continue to buy and self dose OTC drugs like tylenol (now known to damage liver) , aspirin - now know to cause internal bleeding, ulcer meds (Zantac etc) now known to cause serious bowel issues, etc. etc. etc. Or the men and women who take megadoses of daily vitmins and minerals which actually cause serious physical and sometimes death from OD'ing?Its just a study..... to interpret it as a diss against women is a tad over reactive. Personally, given my own personal experience (my conviction that the damn doc didn't know what he was doing when he said I didn't have yeast) - I rather believe the report. I didn't have chronic yeast - I had a discharge and inflamed tissue from lack of estrogen. The doc was right - I was

wrong. There are many on this list who have had a similar experience - once they stopped fighting with the doc about yeast and started looking into other issues, they found the source of their problems.Just my opinionDustyBABB wrote: "Many women treat yeast infections that aren'tOnly one in every four women who seeks treatment for persistent yeast infections actually has one, a new study suggests." I hope that people only believe about 1 per cent of what they read, especially about yeast infections. But, of course,---one can believe anything one wants. I am seriously dubious of the propaganda that 75% of women who are treating for yeast don't really have it. I have much more faith in the good sense of womenkind. Now if one wants to venture the suggestion that the "tests" for discerning yeast and yeast reactions are somewhat inadequate, and the medical profession seems to not know anything about reoccurring yeast problems, I will concur. The picture that comes to mind is all of these hordes of women with chronic yeast are busily making tracks to the pharmacy to waste money by buying something to stuff up their nether parts for a little itch. Anything that characterizes women as being that ridiculous I reject. They have been saying that for

years and consequently I don't think the treatments of or the knowledge about vaginal yeast infections is any better now than it was ten years ago. Some research departments in other countries are busy trying to discover a med to combat the yeast that occurs for HIV patients and other illnesses but that doesn't include vaginal yeast problems, diagnosis, cause, cure, etc. All we get is that it is in the little lady's fuzzy little head. Wrong! So, I suspect those with unremitting yeast problems will still have them 20 years from now and they will still say the same thing. Arline Arline __________________________________________________

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My vulvar problems are almost completely gone with pt and weekly

diflucan. My " doctor " at UC said I didn't have yeast, yet two

nurse practitioners said I had horrible infections. I had to wait

weeks to get news from the doctor's cultures that there was nothing

there, yet the NPs took the sample and told me in 10 minutes there

was a very high amount of yeast AND started treatment right away.

Just my experience.

Lindsey

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> I agree with Arline. I was told at the DOCTOR I don't have yeast

but I had

> toenail fungus, acne, and digestive problems, along with a white

discharge,

> white tongue. A natural doc and my family doc said I had a rare

yeast on my

> tongue, but that was after several visits to gyns that said I did

not have a

> yeast problem. There are SO many types of yeast, how can they test

for them all?

> I do agree a lot of docs do not know that much about it. I went on

the

> candida yeast diet and took antifungals that my doc gave me and

after 4 months of

> that routine, the burning, itching and white discharge stopped. I

started

> eating the old way and went through some stressful times and the

problems came

> back. I would lean towards natural medicine if you think you have

a yeast

> doctor, I found I got much more support and knowledge on the

subjec.

>

>

>

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:04:11 -0700 (PDT), BABB

wrote:

> " Many women treat yeast infections that aren't

>Only one in every four women who seeks treatment for persistent yeast

infections actually has one, a new study suggests. "

There was no real study. The media just blew up a discussion about Candida at

a session of the ISSVD.

http://ts-si.org/content/view/2505/992/iagnosis

Ora

[Guest guest]

Why am I not surprised? As I said people can believe what they want. I prefer to stay in reality as much as possible. As Ora so kindly and always intellligently pointed out, there was no study. Therefore whatever strawmen you can throw in has nothing to do with anything anyway in my opinion but throw them anyway if you wish. Perhaps you should worry about your own over reactions instead of mine for a change.

Arline

I disagree with much of your comment in that this article in no way reflects the negative issues about women which you have conjured up here.What of the ghazillions of men and women who continue to buy and self dose OTC drugs like tylenol (now known to damage liver) , aspirin - now know to cause internal bleeding, ulcer meds (Zantac etc) now known to cause serious bowel issues, etc. etc. etc. Or the men and women who take megadoses of daily vitmins and minerals which actually cause serious physical and sometimes death from OD'ing?Its just a study..... to interpret it as a diss against women is a tad over reactive. Personally, given my own personal experience (my conviction that the damn doc didn't know what he was doing when he said I didn't have yeast) - I rather believe the report. I didn't have chronic yeast - I had a discharge and inflamed tissue from lack of estrogen. The doc was

right - I was wrong. There are many on this list who have had a similar experience - once they stopped fighting with the doc about yeast and started looking into other issues, they found the source of their problems.Just my opinionDustyBABB wrote:

"Many women treat yeast infections that aren'tOnly one in every four women who seeks treatment for persistent yeast infections actually has one, a new study suggests."

I hope that people only believe about 1 per cent of what they read, especially about yeast infections. But, of course,---one can believe anything one wants. I am seriously dubious of the propaganda that 75% of women who are treating for yeast don't really have it. I have much more faith in the good sense of womenkind. Now if one wants to venture the suggestion that the "tests" for discerning yeast and yeast reactions are somewhat inadequate, and the medical profession seems to not know anything about reoccurring yeast problems, I will concur. The picture that comes to mind is all of these hordes of women with chronic yeast are busily making tracks to the pharmacy to waste money by buying something to stuff up their nether parts for a little itch. Anything that characterizes women as being that ridiculous I reject. They have been saying that for years and

consequently I don't think the treatments of or the knowledge about vaginal yeast infections is any better now than it was ten years ago. Some research departments in other countries are busy trying to discover a med to combat the yeast that occurs for HIV patients and other illnesses but that doesn't include vaginal yeast problems, diagnosis, cause, cure, etc. All we get is that it is in the little lady's fuzzy little head. Wrong! So, I suspect those with unremitting yeast problems will still have them 20 years from now and they will still say the same thing.

Arline

Arline

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Tylenol (acetaminophen) has always been known to damage the liver. It was

marketed as a substitute for phenacetin which was taken off the market because

it did the same thing but to a larger extent. And aspirin has been well known

for over 50 years and perhaps from the onset of it being marketed, to cause

internal bleeding. As a matter of fact it is recommended to prevent blood

clots in older people who routinely take one baby aspirin daily.

Ibuprofen also causes internal bleeding.

In my opinion the article did seem to indicate that women are not very bright in

some respects. So if you think you have a yeast infection don't tell that to

your doctor because he/she might do a " study " slanted at the stupidity of women.

Some doctors just don't want us to give our opinions. And the media grabs that

to create a story.

Ora

>I disagree with much of your comment in that this article in no way reflects

the negative issues about women which you have conjured up here.

>

>What of the ghazillions of men and women who continue to buy and self dose OTC

drugs like tylenol (now known to damage liver) , aspirin - now know to cause

internal bleeding, ulcer meds (Zantac etc) now known to cause serious bowel

issues, etc. etc. etc. Or the men and women who take megadoses of daily

vitmins and minerals which actually cause serious physical and sometimes death

from OD'ing?

>

>Its just a study..... to interpret it as a diss against women is a tad over

reactive. Personally, given my own personal experience (my conviction that the

damn doc didn't know what he was doing when he said I didn't have yeast) - I

rather believe the report. I didn't have chronic yeast - I had a discharge and

inflamed tissue from lack of estrogen. The doc was right - I was wrong. There

are many on this list who have had a similar experience - once they stopped

fighting with the doc about yeast and started looking into other issues, they

found the source of their problems.

>

>Just my opinion

>

>Dusty

>

>BABB wrote: " Many women treat yeast

infections that aren't

>Only one in every four women who seeks treatment for persistent yeast

infections actually has one, a new study suggests. "

>

> I hope that people only believe about 1 per cent of what they read, especially

about yeast infections. But, of course,---one can believe anything one wants. I

am seriously dubious of the propaganda that 75% of women who are treating for

yeast don't really have it. I have much more faith in the good sense of

womenkind. Now if one wants to venture the suggestion that the " tests " for

discerning yeast and yeast reactions are somewhat inadequate, and the medical

profession seems to not know anything about reoccurring yeast problems, I will

concur. The picture that comes to mind is all of these hordes of women with

chronic yeast are busily making tracks to the pharmacy to waste money by buying

something to stuff up their nether parts for a little itch. Anything that

characterizes women as being that ridiculous I reject. They have been saying

that for years and consequently I don't think the treatments of or the

knowledge about vaginal yeast infections is any better now than it

> was ten years ago. Some research departments in other countries are busy

trying to discover a med to combat the yeast that occurs for HIV patients and

other illnesses but that doesn't include vaginal yeast problems, diagnosis,

cause, cure, etc. All we get is that it is in the little lady's fuzzy little

head. Wrong! So, I suspect those with unremitting yeast problems will still have

them 20 years from now and they will still say the same thing.

>

> Arline

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> Arline

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[Guest guest]

Hi y'all...perhaps I shouldn't have posted that story, didn't realize

it would cause such a fuss. Just thought it was interesting, regardless

of whether one agrees or disagrees with it. I know that I have friends

who think they have yeast, never go to a doctor, and just try OTC

stuff, assuming that it's yeast. I don't think that's a good idea. And

I am a strong believer in chronic, systemic candida problems that

plague many of us.

Melinda