Re: na/was:Re: Update/calling all chelation experts

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Sorry, na, I almost missed your message. Your experiences are valuable as I

have no first hand experience with anything but very independent children. I

think my dd was about 4 the first time she said she couldn't wait to turn 18 and

leave the house. She actually found a way to pay for her own college so her

father and I " couldn't bug her about her grades. "

This is my granddaughter and I think she would crawl back in the womb, if she

could. So we'll give your suggestions a try and see if that doesn't reassure

her.

Thanks,

Re: Update/calling all chelation experts

Hi ,

I can only comment on the issues that your daughter is raising with

you. (mum to mum comment).

Both of my NT kids (now aged 13, girl and 9, boy) have gone through

the stages of conceptualising dying (something they do have to

learn) - that it is final/the fear of being away from parents

forever, AND the issue of friends, this issue goes up and down

until they are adults I figure.

Best thing here is reassurance, on the death issue, I make it clear

that I will be with them until I am really old....., and tell them

they can live with me for as long as they want to - that is what

they want to hear!!!!. Seemed to work a treat for them, extra

cuddles during these discussions.

Believe me, by the time R is a teenager, she will threaten to move

out at least once a month...

The friends issue comes and goes as quick as they are in telling you

about it. One day the world is ending, the next afternoon all is

hunky dory!!. Girls seem to have this issue very strongly from

age 6 - 12, can be extremely catty in their nature, then teenage

groups set in moreso, and the issue is in finding the " group " that

suits them. By that stage, they are into their own individual

identity development, and it's all about hair and clothes.

I use epsom baths to supplement magnesium especially during rounds,

(just make sure it is BP grade, and not out of China).

Good luck

na

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> Recently I posted about our little one, 6.5, chelated for 2.5

years on low/frequent Andy's dosing, who developed this odd

movement/tic.

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> We did discover through her having a night time accident that we

were dealing with some ineffective magnesium. She never has had a

night time accident since being potty trained at 2 years " except " if

her magnesium is low. I was surprised as we were giving her plenty

but switching to new magnesium cut this odd movement/tic nearly down

to nothing so I can only assume we were chelating with a low amount

of magnesium.

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> It will still occur when she is super excited and is much finer

now, not surprising given she is now getting some magnesium, among

other things like more clo and E and zinc. But, because it is still

occuring I have to consider that this is some kind of motor neuron

problem caused by chelation and is therefore, redistribution. I'm

at a loss to figure out how this could have happened as we have been

very careful to only dose according to Andy's protocol. I do know

that motor neuron problems are sometimes encountered by people on

Dmsa, particularly if the protocol is not followed. I'm also certain

that Ala could cause motor neuron problems.

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> Again, she has no dx, is relatively happy, (although we have

noticed some increased anxiety, mostly at night before bed time

about things like her parents or me dying or is she going to know

any kids in her class the upcoming year, etc.) appears otherwise

healthy, eats and sleeps well, plays well with other kids, attends

social situations and has good cognitive processess. To this end, I

offer that she does attempt to hide this movement from others and

believe me, as a psychologist I know that any 6 year old who knows

that this movement is not a good thing to do in front of others.....

is pretty savvy. An autistic child would never understand this, a

lot of NT 6 year olds would not get this. I don't want to make her

more self conscious about this than she already is.

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> In Andy's book he mentions that the only cure for bad chelation is

proper chelation. In attempting to figure out what to do about this

we are considering giving her oral dmps at very, very low doses on a

4-6 hour protocol as suggested in Amalgam Illness. I need to ask the

other, more experienced people on this if this seems like a wise

course of action. Honestly, I'm afraid to use dmsa/ala anymore until

we figure out just exactly what happened.

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> Truthfully, we are afraid to give her anything but are concerned

that if this is fresh redistribution it could cause more damage if

we leave it alone then if we try some low dose dmps. Also, Andy

mentions in his book that if someone has a fast Phase I it could

make certain classes of drugs more toxic. She is not chemically

sensitive indicating a fast Phase I and slow II, but her anxiety

makes me wonder if she is not fast Phase I. She is on Armour, 1

grain, her pulse appears normal and she also takes Diflucan for

yeast, with no apparent problems. We have also recently given her

some Robitussin for a cough she had, again no problem with that.

Anyone know what class of drugs Andy is referring to with relation

to fast Phase I?

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> Anyway, I wanted to get some other opinions about our possible tx

idea and see if anyone could offer an explanation of what we are

seeing here. I posted here from the beginning as the A-M list is at

present, mostly comprised of new people and some old people who

think most things are due to yeast problems. I see little likelihood

of being offered any reliable help there and need the assistance of

people who have more experience.

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> I appreciate your attention,

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