Re: New Member - just started T3 only meds

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MAY LABS

TSH 2.42 (.34 - 4.82 uIU/ml)

FT4 .38 (.77 - 1.61 ng/dL)**

FT3 230 (230 - 420 pg/dL)**

RT3 20 (11-32 ng/dL)

vitD 41 (20 - 100 ng/mL) - I am supplementing 2000 IU daily

Insulin 17 (<17 uIU/mL)**

c-reactive protein < 0.30 (0.00 - 0.30 MG/DL)

CRP-quant 2.3 (1.0 - 3.0 MG/L avg relative cardiovasc. risk)

HGBA1C 5.8 (4.8-6.0%)

Fasting Glucose 104 (70-110 mg/dL)

Well it(FT4) is too low but you don't need it higher as it is all converting to

RT3. You seriously need ot get after your glucose. You ARE pre-Diabetic and

eating low carb around 70G carb a day will probably reduce this NOW, but wait a

few months and it wil become worse. If after eating low carb for 2 months your

fasting glucose is not in the low 90's I would consider Metformin. Thsi may be

the cause of your RT3. Your vitamin D si pitiful, you should be taking abotu

10,000IU Vitamin D to bring this up. Raising T3 will help your metabolism

utilize carbs better .

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Optimal vitamin D level according to vitamindcouncil.org is between 50 and 100.

Although your testosterone and DHEA say " age-dependent " , optimal feel-good

levels of these hormones would not be in the lower part of the reference ranges,

as yours are. Also, your estradiol level is in the feel-yukky, bone-loss range;

yikes! I will leave the thyroid commentary to those with more experience than

I, however, I think you would feel much better if you got your other hormone

levels up to more optimal ranges. Hope this helps.

Kate W. in NC

(panhypopituitary)

>

> Hi everyone! I just started taking T3 meds after being on just about

everything from Levoxyl to Erfa in two years! I suggested it to my doc after

reading about the ratio of FT3 to RT3. I also have adrenal fatigue.

>

> Here are thyroid labs from 5/17. On 60 mg Erfa once daily. Doc wanted me to

take 60 mg Erfa in the a.m. and 30mg (which I had to split) in the p.m. However

I was itching and reduced the dosage to stop the itching then neglected to start

taking the p.m. 30 mg dose again, so it's not surprising my TSH is a little more

elevated than it normally is. Although a ferritin test was requested (and I saw

the order by the doc) for some reason the lab didn't do it?!

>

> MAY LABS

> TSH 2.42 (.34 - 4.82 uIU/ml)

> FT4 .38 (.77 - 1.61 ng/dL)**

> FT3 230 (230 - 420 pg/dL)**

> RT3 20 (11-32 ng/dL)

> vitD 41 (20 - 100 ng/mL) - I am supplementing 2000 IU daily

> Insulin 17 (<17 uIU/mL)**

> c-reactive protein < 0.30 (0.00 - 0.30 MG/DL)

> CRP-quant 2.3 (1.0 - 3.0 MG/L avg relative cardiovasc. risk)

> HGBA1C 5.8 (4.8-6.0%)

> Fasting Glucose 104 (70-110 mg/dL)

>

> ** = what my doc flagged on the labs. Doc was concerned that FT4 was too low?!

>

>

> MARCH LABS

> Erfa Thyroid 60 mg 1x daily + 30 mg at

> night - feeling decent as long as I'm using Pregnenolone cream. Doc dialed

down

> the Erfa dosage from 2 grains after TSH was 0.0 at my last appointment. We

> finally did a ZRT test in March (after almost 2 years of dessicated thyroid

treatment in one form or another).

> Here are the results:

>

> Estradiol 0.8L* pg/ml (1.3 - 3.3) premenopausal (luteal)

> Progesterone 44L* pg/ml (75-270)

> Ratio: Pg/E2 55L* (Optimal: 100-500 when E2 1.3 - 3.3 pg/ml)

> Testosterone 22 pg/ml (16-55, age dependent)

> DHEAS 3.4 ng/ml (2-23, age dependent)

> Cortisol morning 5.4 ng/ml (3.7 - 9.5)

> noon 2.1 ng/ml (1.2 - 3.0)

> evening 0.5L* ng/ml (0.6 - 1.9)

> night 0.3L* ng/ml (0.4 - 1.0)

>

> Here are the thyroid labs that were done about the same time as the ZRT saliva

> panel in March:

> TSH = 0.0 (0.34 - 4.82 uIU/ml)

> Free T4 = 0.68 (0.77 - 1.61 ng/dL)

> Free T3 = 352 (230-420 pg/dL)

> no RT3 was done at this time, however on Nov. 2009 RT3 = 216 (90 - 350 pg/ml)

>

>

> SO, my doc put me on 25 mcg Cytomel twice daily (pharmacy filled liothyronine

- generic)I am taking it once in the am when I first get up and again about 2-3

pm. The first day I took it I had a massive all-encompassing headache and body

aches. I am feeling rather hypo over all. How do I know if I need to increase or

decrease the dosage? Even though I've requested ferritin labs my doc seems to

glaze over them. I think I had them done in 2008 and they were " in-range "

However, all my hormone levels have dropped since then. I am taking most of

's adrenal supplements (super stress tabs, C, and rebuilder) as well as

ashwagandha, Vit. D, zinc, selenium, caltrate, krill oil, and red yeast rice and

niacin for high cholesterol.

>

> I have looked through a couple of books I have on thyroid conditions and

neither one of them mentions reverse T3!! If anyone has some suggestions about

my dosage of T3 only meds I would appreciate some input. Thanks so much for

reading this rather lengthy post! However I thought it might give the reader a

better idea of where I am at the moment. Thanks again!

>

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My doc had me on metformin for a while but I felt like I had the flu all the

time and weird pains in my back that radiated down both legs. She put me on a

supplement with ALA, I've had to increase that gradually as it had almost the

same effect as the metformin.

Isn't the rT3 issue possibly caused by low carb or extreme dieting? It all seems

such a catch 22 with me! How do I know if the T3 medication dosing is good?

Right now I'm feeling kinda cross-eyed - too much or too little T3?

Thanks for your opinion, Val!

>

> MAY LABS

> TSH 2.42 (.34 - 4.82 uIU/ml)

> FT4 .38 (.77 - 1.61 ng/dL)**

> FT3 230 (230 - 420 pg/dL)**

> RT3 20 (11-32 ng/dL)

> vitD 41 (20 - 100 ng/mL) - I am supplementing 2000 IU daily

> Insulin 17 (<17 uIU/mL)**

> c-reactive protein < 0.30 (0.00 - 0.30 MG/DL)

> CRP-quant 2.3 (1.0 - 3.0 MG/L avg relative cardiovasc. risk)

> HGBA1C 5.8 (4.8-6.0%)

> Fasting Glucose 104 (70-110 mg/dL)

>

> Well it(FT4) is too low but you don't need it higher as it is all converting

to RT3. You seriously need ot get after your glucose. You ARE pre-Diabetic and

eating low carb around 70G carb a day will probably reduce this NOW, but wait a

few months and it wil become worse. If after eating low carb for 2 months your

fasting glucose is not in the low 90's I would consider Metformin. Thsi may be

the cause of your RT3. Your vitamin D si pitiful, you should be taking abotu

10,000IU Vitamin D to bring this up. Raising T3 will help your metabolism

utilize carbs better .

>

> --

>

> http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

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Thank you for your feedback, Kate. I am working on the other hormone levels. I

am currently using compounded progesterone - 5 drops daily. And yes, I have felt

YUKKY!! I am only 41! The drops are making a big difference but I'm still

scratching my head as to why they all bottomed out. Like, ALL my hormones -

thyroid, cortisol, sex hormones - I'm amazed my family still speaks to me!!

Makes me wonder if it's not another issue entirely, not just thyroid.

>

> Optimal vitamin D level according to vitamindcouncil.org is between 50 and

100. Although your testosterone and DHEA say " age-dependent " , optimal feel-good

levels of these hormones would not be in the lower part of the reference ranges,

as yours are. Also, your estradiol level is in the feel-yukky, bone-loss range;

yikes! I will leave the thyroid commentary to those with more experience than

I, however, I think you would feel much better if you got your other hormone

levels up to more optimal ranges. Hope this helps.

>

> Kate W. in NC

> (panhypopituitary)

[Guest guest]

RT3 can be caused by VERY extreme low calorie or extrweme low carb. 70G

carbs a day does nto cause RT3.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/