ALA without DMSA or DMPS

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Hi,

I did one round of DMSA awhile back (4 days after amalgam removal finished),

12.5 mg dose, lasting about 4 days -- and feeling better on it, worse as it

neared the time to take another dose, every time, so I ended up more at 3

1/2 hours rather than 4. My first day off it, I had some bad mental symptoms

(the physical is hard to tell because i feel rotten most of the time anyway,

and that goes from bad to worse of its own accord) -- but the mental stuff

was pretty clearly different, and unusual. Fortunately I identified what it

was from, and fortunately i'm pretty good at ignoring my mind when necessary

. Is this trial reasonable evidence of a mercury problem?

After that, my new doc got hold of me and put me on a vitamin and amino acid

regimen because he said my methylation system was performing very badly, and

I have autonomic neuropathy. He also put me on Armour thyroid, after tests

showed i had an autoimmune hypothyroid reaction going on (I KNEW it, could

mercury have sparked this off?).

Anyway, he convinced me to wait a couple weeks at least so he could get me

in better shape for the chelation. He did have a point in that he wanted to

see how the new substances affected me, and chelating would have interfered

with the evidence. probably a good thing, as i had a big adrenal reaction,

and have been working on fixing that. If i'd been chelating, we may have

mistook it for a reaction to that

I showed him the guidelines from this list, and he asked for a copy, seemed

to think it sounded good because the dosing was conservative, so is willing

to go with me on it. He is willing to prescribe DMPS for me, which is great,

but i'll have to wait till he thinks i'm ok to begin it.

Upshot of all this is, if i end up 2 -3 months out from amalgam removal and

no chelation having been done, is it ok to begin with ALA?

I've heard of people using just ALA, and apparently those with low

homocysteine (which is me) actually feeling better on it. Since DMSA or DMPS

is supposed to clear the blood before using ALA for the brain, i'm wondering

are these folks ok with just ALA if they wait the required 2-3 months? Or

are they at risk no matter what if they haven't done DMPS or ALA? I haven't

been able to find this in the book.

Hope this isn't too rambling, just trying to learn and clarify, and get my

facts straight.

thanks for any comments/help,

NJ

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>

> Hi,

>

> I did one round of DMSA awhile back (4 days after amalgam removal

finished),

> 12.5 mg dose, lasting about 4 days -- and feeling better on it,

worse as it

> neared the time to take another dose, every time, so I ended up more

at 3

> 1/2 hours rather than 4. My first day off it, I had some bad mental

symptoms

> (the physical is hard to tell because i feel rotten most of the time

anyway,

> and that goes from bad to worse of its own accord) -- but the mental

stuff

> was pretty clearly different, and unusual. Fortunately I identified

what it

> was from, and fortunately i'm pretty good at ignoring my mind when

necessary

> .

>Is this trial reasonable evidence of a mercury problem?

>

I think so. I'm sure the experience will be similiar when you repeat it.

> After that, my new doc got hold of me and put me on a vitamin and

amino acid

> regimen because he said my methylation system was performing very

badly, and

> I have autonomic neuropathy.

>He also put me on Armour thyroid, after tests

> showed i had an autoimmune hypothyroid reaction going on

>(I KNEW it, could

> mercury have sparked this off?).

>

Yes

> Anyway, he convinced me to wait a couple weeks at least so he could

get me

> in better shape for the chelation. He did have a point in that he

wanted to

> see how the new substances affected me, and chelating would have

interfered

> with the evidence.

>probably a good thing, as i had a big adrenal reaction,

> and have been working on fixing that.

Do you mean that you had a big adrenal reaction when you were

increasing the armour thyroid? What are you doing to 'fix' that?

> If i'd been chelating, we may have

> mistook it for a reaction to that

>

> I showed him the guidelines from this list, and he asked for a copy,

seemed

> to think it sounded good because the dosing was conservative, so is

willing

> to go with me on it. He is willing to prescribe DMPS for me, which

is great,

> but i'll have to wait till he thinks i'm ok to begin it.

>

> Upshot of all this is, if i end up 2 -3 months out from amalgam

removal and

> no chelation having been done, is it ok to begin with ALA?

>

At THREE months after removal it's ok to try ALA at low doses.

> I've heard of people using just ALA, and apparently those with

>low

> homocysteine (which is me)

It's people with low plasma cysteine who feel better on ALA.

Plasma cysteine and homocysteine are two TOTALLY different things.

>actually feeling better on it. Since DMSA or DMPS

> is supposed to clear the blood before using ALA for the brain, i'm

wondering

> are these folks ok with just ALA if they wait the required 2-3 months?

Three months or more (am I remembering this right TK??).

Or

> are they at risk no matter what if they haven't done DMPS or ALA? I

haven't

> been able to find this in the book.

>

It's ok to chelate with ALA alone provided the person waits 3 months

after amalgam removal or recent mercury exposure.

DMSA and DMPS help to alleviate the mercury side effects (and help to

remove mercury from the body). Some people find the side effects of

ALA chelation too much and appreciate the relief that they get with

one of the other chelators included. Others can manage with just ALA.

If you get side effects with 12.5 mg DMSA I'm guessing that you will

want DMSA or DMPS to help with side effects when you introduce ALA.

When the time comes, a trial of chelation will tell you what you need

to know.

J

> Hope this isn't too rambling, just trying to learn and clarify, and

get my

> facts straight.

> thanks for any comments/help,

> NJ

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