Re: Something VERY Interesting!!!

[Guest guest]

Yes, VERY interesting! I'm also wondering now if the axis may be

wounded by autoimmune disorders as well???

Sheila

>

> I have been suffering for nearly two years with Adrenal Exhaustion,

> anxiety and a few panic attacks. I'm on Armour Thyroid and

> bio-identical hormones, too. I have a small goiter with cysts, which

> have barely grown in two years, according to the recent ultrasound.

>

> I'm looking so forward to March when I first see a hopefully, good

> doctor that not only uses Armour Thyroid but does saliva testing!!

> and, I've heard, understands Adrenal Exhaustion.

>

> In the meantime, I went to a licensed nutritionalist (which has a

lot

> of medical school training) and does muscle testing too for what

> supplements your body needs. I believe she is on to something

> interesting that no other doctor mentioned.....

>

> She said it may be my hypothalimus-pituitary axis that is damaged or

> unbalanced and to take phosphitidal serine (PS). I put the cream on

> the third eye (middle of forehead where it gets absorbed and can

even

> avert a possible panic attack. Also, I've been taking two capsules

> with breakfast.

>

> Here's the interesting part: My husband and I just came back from

> watching our 5 month old teething grandson that I had to feed every

> 2-3 hours around the clock. We also watched his three year old

> brother that, though loving, shall we say, is THE MOST defiant,

> trying, manipulative child, ever!!! You can not imagine the physical

> and emotional turmoil we were in for 8 days! Before we left I

thought

> I'd end up in bed the whole time taking care of the baby, come home

> and die. WELL------- as soon as I started watching the kids I went

> into what my husband called, " Mommy Mode. " I went like the Eveready

> Bunny the whole time, mostly full of energy, just doing what had to

be

> done. Before we left I could only function for four or five hours in

> the morning. The rest of the time I was 'couch sitting.' I've been

> home for six days and now I'm starting to tire, but not like before

we

> left.

>

> The day after we came home I went to my nutritionalist and she said

> though I still need my hormones and thyroid balanced and have

Adrenal

> Fatigue, because of when I focus, I'm so much better she thought

part

> of my problem might be my hypothalimus-pituitary axis.

>

> The first time I saw her I told her the only time I felt good

> (emotionally and physically) was when I played darts for a few

minutes

> with my husband. Before I did, I could barely move because I was so

> physically wiped out, not from

> doing anything physical. After a minute or two of playing darts

> (which I'm not particularly fond of) I felt soooooo much better.

This

> is what made her think there MAY be a need for PS. After the

> grandchildren experience, she really believes my

> hypothalimus-pituitary axis is the greater problem. Possibly from a

> past sinus infection or candida got up there.

>

> I'm still taking my PS, orally and topically and taking Lion's Mane,

> Nerve Factors. I'm also now taking Caprilic Acid gelcaps and

Oregamax

> to knock out the candida/fungus. She also wants me to focus on a

> flame a few times a

> day and do to cross-stitch or some other type of needlework. Ha, and

> to keep playing darts.

>

> It is just amazing the world of difference since I went to watch my

> grandchildren. Before I didn't ever think I would heal my AF, since

> it was not improving and so, mentally, I was worsening. Now, I'm so

> much better. Still in need of balancing my other physical problems,

> hopefully, with a knowledgeable doctor next month. But, in the

> meantime, and since I haven't seen this topic discussed in the

group,

> I wanted to share this important news with all of you. I hope this

> helps someone.

>

> Homekeeper

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, VERY interesting! I'm also wondering now if the axis may be

wounded by autoimmune disorders as well???

Sheila

>

> I have been suffering for nearly two years with Adrenal Exhaustion,

> anxiety and a few panic attacks. I'm on Armour Thyroid and

> bio-identical hormones, too. I have a small goiter with cysts, which

> have barely grown in two years, according to the recent ultrasound.

>

> I'm looking so forward to March when I first see a hopefully, good

> doctor that not only uses Armour Thyroid but does saliva testing!!

> and, I've heard, understands Adrenal Exhaustion.

>

> In the meantime, I went to a licensed nutritionalist (which has a

lot

> of medical school training) and does muscle testing too for what

> supplements your body needs. I believe she is on to something

> interesting that no other doctor mentioned.....

>

> She said it may be my hypothalimus-pituitary axis that is damaged or

> unbalanced and to take phosphitidal serine (PS). I put the cream on

> the third eye (middle of forehead where it gets absorbed and can

even

> avert a possible panic attack. Also, I've been taking two capsules

> with breakfast.

>

> Here's the interesting part: My husband and I just came back from

> watching our 5 month old teething grandson that I had to feed every

> 2-3 hours around the clock. We also watched his three year old

> brother that, though loving, shall we say, is THE MOST defiant,

> trying, manipulative child, ever!!! You can not imagine the physical

> and emotional turmoil we were in for 8 days! Before we left I

thought

> I'd end up in bed the whole time taking care of the baby, come home

> and die. WELL------- as soon as I started watching the kids I went

> into what my husband called, " Mommy Mode. " I went like the Eveready

> Bunny the whole time, mostly full of energy, just doing what had to

be

> done. Before we left I could only function for four or five hours in

> the morning. The rest of the time I was 'couch sitting.' I've been

> home for six days and now I'm starting to tire, but not like before

we

> left.

>

> The day after we came home I went to my nutritionalist and she said

> though I still need my hormones and thyroid balanced and have

Adrenal

> Fatigue, because of when I focus, I'm so much better she thought

part

> of my problem might be my hypothalimus-pituitary axis.

>

> The first time I saw her I told her the only time I felt good

> (emotionally and physically) was when I played darts for a few

minutes

> with my husband. Before I did, I could barely move because I was so

> physically wiped out, not from

> doing anything physical. After a minute or two of playing darts

> (which I'm not particularly fond of) I felt soooooo much better.

This

> is what made her think there MAY be a need for PS. After the

> grandchildren experience, she really believes my

> hypothalimus-pituitary axis is the greater problem. Possibly from a

> past sinus infection or candida got up there.

>

> I'm still taking my PS, orally and topically and taking Lion's Mane,

> Nerve Factors. I'm also now taking Caprilic Acid gelcaps and

Oregamax

> to knock out the candida/fungus. She also wants me to focus on a

> flame a few times a

> day and do to cross-stitch or some other type of needlework. Ha, and

> to keep playing darts.

>

> It is just amazing the world of difference since I went to watch my

> grandchildren. Before I didn't ever think I would heal my AF, since

> it was not improving and so, mentally, I was worsening. Now, I'm so

> much better. Still in need of balancing my other physical problems,

> hopefully, with a knowledgeable doctor next month. But, in the

> meantime, and since I haven't seen this topic discussed in the

group,

> I wanted to share this important news with all of you. I hope this

> helps someone.

>

> Homekeeper

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, VERY interesting! I'm also wondering now if the axis may be

wounded by autoimmune disorders as well???

Sheila

>

> I have been suffering for nearly two years with Adrenal Exhaustion,

> anxiety and a few panic attacks. I'm on Armour Thyroid and

> bio-identical hormones, too. I have a small goiter with cysts, which

> have barely grown in two years, according to the recent ultrasound.

>

> I'm looking so forward to March when I first see a hopefully, good

> doctor that not only uses Armour Thyroid but does saliva testing!!

> and, I've heard, understands Adrenal Exhaustion.

>

> In the meantime, I went to a licensed nutritionalist (which has a

lot

> of medical school training) and does muscle testing too for what

> supplements your body needs. I believe she is on to something

> interesting that no other doctor mentioned.....

>

> She said it may be my hypothalimus-pituitary axis that is damaged or

> unbalanced and to take phosphitidal serine (PS). I put the cream on

> the third eye (middle of forehead where it gets absorbed and can

even

> avert a possible panic attack. Also, I've been taking two capsules

> with breakfast.

>

> Here's the interesting part: My husband and I just came back from

> watching our 5 month old teething grandson that I had to feed every

> 2-3 hours around the clock. We also watched his three year old

> brother that, though loving, shall we say, is THE MOST defiant,

> trying, manipulative child, ever!!! You can not imagine the physical

> and emotional turmoil we were in for 8 days! Before we left I

thought

> I'd end up in bed the whole time taking care of the baby, come home

> and die. WELL------- as soon as I started watching the kids I went

> into what my husband called, " Mommy Mode. " I went like the Eveready

> Bunny the whole time, mostly full of energy, just doing what had to

be

> done. Before we left I could only function for four or five hours in

> the morning. The rest of the time I was 'couch sitting.' I've been

> home for six days and now I'm starting to tire, but not like before

we

> left.

>

> The day after we came home I went to my nutritionalist and she said

> though I still need my hormones and thyroid balanced and have

Adrenal

> Fatigue, because of when I focus, I'm so much better she thought

part

> of my problem might be my hypothalimus-pituitary axis.

>

> The first time I saw her I told her the only time I felt good

> (emotionally and physically) was when I played darts for a few

minutes

> with my husband. Before I did, I could barely move because I was so

> physically wiped out, not from

> doing anything physical. After a minute or two of playing darts

> (which I'm not particularly fond of) I felt soooooo much better.

This

> is what made her think there MAY be a need for PS. After the

> grandchildren experience, she really believes my

> hypothalimus-pituitary axis is the greater problem. Possibly from a

> past sinus infection or candida got up there.

>

> I'm still taking my PS, orally and topically and taking Lion's Mane,

> Nerve Factors. I'm also now taking Caprilic Acid gelcaps and

Oregamax

> to knock out the candida/fungus. She also wants me to focus on a

> flame a few times a

> day and do to cross-stitch or some other type of needlework. Ha, and

> to keep playing darts.

>

> It is just amazing the world of difference since I went to watch my

> grandchildren. Before I didn't ever think I would heal my AF, since

> it was not improving and so, mentally, I was worsening. Now, I'm so

> much better. Still in need of balancing my other physical problems,

> hopefully, with a knowledgeable doctor next month. But, in the

> meantime, and since I haven't seen this topic discussed in the

group,

> I wanted to share this important news with all of you. I hope this

> helps someone.

>

> Homekeeper

>

[Guest guest]

Rie, that is what my gut has been telling me. I do believe I need HC

since it has gonein the last year from 2, 5, 9, & now 2 again, all

from saliva testing results. The last test was from serum and it was

a 2, as well. Thanks for your input!

I'll post my other values later in the morning. I'm up in the night

and want to try to get some more sleep.

Homekeeper

>

> Could you post your previous labwork? It would help in giving you

advice. If

> your cortisol is that low, then you most likely will need to take

HC. Your

> entire endocrine system is interelated and each thing affects

another. Your

> body NEEDS cortisol to survive. If it doesn't have enough, nothing will

> funciton right. Your body won't be able to use thyroid hormones.

Your sex

> hormones get all out of whack. Memory loss and brain fog are both

symptoms

> of adrenal fatigue. The article to me looks like it is talking about

people

> whose levels of cortisol are too high. Your adrenal gland don't just

> suddenly stop producing cortisol when you have adrenal fatigue. In the

> beginning stages you can have too much cortisol as your body tries

to deal

> with stress and fails. Take a look at this site. It explains and

shows the

> different stages pretty well. A product like the article is talking

about

> looks like it might be helpful if you have high cortisol levels. If

you have

> low levels, then you don't want to lower them anymore. You need to raise

> them. When you take HC, it allows your adrenals to rest and hopefully

> recover. Once they heal, you can wean back off of the HC. In the early

> stages of AF you can take adreanl support to help heal the glands,

but once

> you go past to the later stages, the only thing I'm aware of that

will help

> is HC. You have to replace what your body needs before it can start

healing

> itself. You should definately talk with your doctor before starting

any of

> the supplements.

>

> I understand that the medical community have made steriods out to be

a very

> bad thing to take, and I can sympathize with wanting to avoid them.

The fact

> is though that our body makes it for a reason. We need it to

survive. If you

> cut out your adrenal glands, you die. So if your tests show low cortisol

> levels, and your doctor is willing to prescribe HC, you are very

lucky. Many

> doctors won't even acknowledge AF. I hope this is helpful. :-)

>

> Rie

>

> A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

> enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

>

> > In my case, my cortisol is very low, a few months ago it was 2 in the

> > morning and went down to 0 by noon! I do not awake tired. Actually,

> > I have energy in the morning for four to five hours then I'm pooped

> > out, to say the least. Then again, I awake in the middle of the

> > night, sometimes for an hours, sometimes I'm up for the day. That I

> > think, is from hormone imbalance, low estrogen and NO progesterone,

> > according to latest blood tests.

> >

> > So, this is a dilema, isn't it? With short-term memory loss too, I do

> > think my nutritionalsit hit the nail on the head with the

> > hypothalamus-pituitary axis being afftected negatively. I just hope

> > my doc next month realizes that it's more than very low cortisol.

> >

> > BIG question: If this is so, what if the doc puts me on HC to bring

> > up my cortisol levels??? That is where the article was a bit

> > confusing to me. Would that be damaging to my HP Axis? What else

> > might help the HP Axis? Would healing my HP Axis bring up my cortisol

> > levels to normal so I could have a normal life in time???

> >

> > Homekeeper

> >

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