Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Ugggh, I can guarantee my parents one thing - IF my adrenals are insufficient in ANY way, when I finally get completely off the IC (I'm currently at 12-14 mg/d at (2/2/2/[1]) and get my testing done, they WILL be worse than they are now - unless my HPA is a hell of a lot better at protecting itself from stress than I feel it to be (now or ever).. My dad got mad at the computer spreadsheet (tax time.. and his classe's exam time - FUN!), and then the Bluetooth mouse didn't want to connect to the computer, and he couldn't find the damn battery tester.. And of course blew up? (Are you thinking HE might have AF? So am I. But I don't want to be any more of a hypochondriac than I already am, so I'm not going to even suggst it..) And as usual, he gets mad at me for not being able to " put up with a little bit of stress " (batle hardened he is by a year in Vietnam*..) when I all but go into the fetal position when he gets like this, and then I shout something at him to look up adrenal insufficincy and read it. The he says something I forget that began with " Oh *CRAP*! " Then I stress dose 1 pill isocort, adn go to sleep sort of.. Perhaps should have done more, but I don't want to mess up the [supposed] progress of my wean any more than I just have to - I'm probbly dragging the HPA down even more by NOT stress dosing 2 or 3 pills, which would be equal to my usual 4-hr dose at this stage.. I'm not sure exactly *what* all the things he would cite as evidence that I'm hypochondriac are - he doesn't either, so we're even their. One I think is that I thought I was hypoT (I was right), another is the fluroide thing (I'm probably right - I don't say 'right' because I haven't lined up my research ducks in a very straight row yet, and the fluoride thing involves an element of 'government conspiracy' - the phrase 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence' comes to mind - which I don't have at the tip of my fingers like I feel I should). Another probably would be my insistence (unheeded of course) that he should take Co-Q10 because of the statin (that's actually BACKED by the Lovastatin Phase I trial, and numerous other things, one of which I KNOW is on PubMed [i just can't get to it because I'm not a MedSchool student so no access to the online journal], and the fact that he shouldn't be taking the statin AT ALL.. And by extension that the " obviously true " (sic) cholesterol hypothesis is wrong (plenty of evidence, just not in a " nice-duck-row " , not that he'd pay attention anyway). Jesus, the cover of *Businessweek* this week for Mike's sake has a big questionmark made of pills and in big letters " LIPITOR: DOES IT DO ANY GOOD? " Never read by the oh-*so*-skeptical parent.. Mostly the fact that I " find these things on the Internet.. " and I couldn't hear anything he said after that (if he said anything at all, or just trailed off in verbal ellipsis). Well, HE is the one taking the statin on the say so of his doctor (with NO questining) and ONE blood test. That's funny because about 6-10 years ago (the blessing/curse of my eidetic verbal memory) he said that he didn't think " they " had a CLUE what the deal was with cholesterol (they were talking about eggs on the news - first their the wonder food, then they are poison, then they are sort of good - but DON " T EAT THE YOLKS!!.. He said SPECIFICALLY, " the body *makes* the damn stuff for crying out loud! " If I had a spine AND HPA made of a " top-secret DoD steel-nickle- titanium-urbium alloy doped with unilquadium** atoms " , I would throw this quote back in his faces, but he wouldn't remember it surely, or even making it generally.. I keep wanting to just go down to 2/2/2 on the IsoCort (and then either to 0, or 1/1/1 and then 0). But the past two or three days, something has always come up after 4PM that seems to call for a stress dose (that is, if stress doses do much good after-the-fact - I assume they limit further damage as much as they can) I'm not sure I DARE thell them that during the 16-20 day " HPA reset " period, I will need a stress-free (as possible as that gets around here) environment, as it would just provoke the situation further, and might even produce the opposite environment (I don't think my dad is *that* sadistic, but.. ignorance can create things that the creator is unaware of out of.. ignorance..) Of course, I might just have an adrenal crash, land in the ER, and then they'd HAVE to listen Not my favorite idea, but it might work. Of course, diabetes landing me in the hospital for a day getting normalized from 572 to something more reasonable around 80-100 didn't - the FIRST thing he said when I came home was, " Surely there are more things than just diabetes than can cause high blood sugars.. " No, not really.. Not that high anyway. I atrribute that to just shock-denial, which is understandable, although I won't forgive him easily for ignoring all the research I'd pull together about that damn anti-CD3 trial (although then I'd have been at the mercy of a " 3-sided die [1/3 control, 2/3 active group assignment]), or of taking an interest in my damn attempt to get the damn disease cured (or " the most we can do short of that with reasonable safety " ) and " go to bat " for me getting in touch with that endo in CA (who has Type 1 and is pissed off there isn't a cure yet), and possibly Lahita (relatively well-known if not world-class *practicing* immunologist and author of Women and Autoimmune Disease).. And I won't forgive him for ignoring my rather unique (to put it mildly) vocal abilities (or at least potential of abilities) - 3 octave range at least on some notes.. But if my REALLY big dreams come true (actually, any of several), then they WON'T hear the end of it for a while.. And if I told them I wanted to get tested for toxic metals.. Then they'd flip (litterally). Fortunately, if I choose to get tested, they don't have to know a damn thing.. It'll be interesting if I get my grandmother's TSH,T3,T4 tested with a ZRT blood-speck test and they *do* come back hypo (getting 3/4 a bottle of saliva would be too complicated to do unobtrusively - she'd forget about one blood spec I hope).. Then they'd have some real soul searching to do.. Both of them - including my mother " I just don't think so.. I don't know why, but I *just* have a feeling that's not it.. " Jesus, and people today supposedly live by tests numbers?? And all hell would break loose if I wanted to start treatment with oxytocin or even get tested - as if it would do any good at this point.. 15 or 20 *years* ago it might have done some good, but probably not know .. As Jesus said somewhere in the Bible (taken out of its metaphorical context) " You must hate your mother and father " .. MAYBE it will dawn on my mother (like that damn wayward skillet banging people ont he head in the steakhouse commercial) that I have seemed *worse* since starting the IsoCort weaning. The ONLY reason she is against the IsoCort (other than that it's 13 pills a day - OF THE SAME DAMN STUFF - doesn't could as different drugs. Hormones don't count as drugs in my book anyway is that the damn endo-idiot (who she has her own reasons not to trust) said it was " dangerous " . I assume he was talking about suppression (I specically asked about Ecchinachea and autoimmunity - he said that wasn't it) Hell, like 3 measly mg is *possibly* going to shut down my HPA unless I *really* have AF - and then I'd be on the damn floor passed out I'm sure.. (I didn't mention that it was only 3 mg - didn't know if fact that a pill is only 2 mg). Of course, she's taking a doctor's word on " blind faith " and is on Crestor (never mind that I think the Framingham study showed NO benefit for women over 50..) And they say blind faith in " traditional " religion is a bad thing.. Good book title, " Blind Medicine, The New American Religion " . People ghost-write *books* - can I just ghost-write the *titles*? As a country song goes, maybe I should just run off with Pearl Jam.. (like that would be less stress - at least it would be " eu- stress " ) Or perhaps Shoman could talk some sense into them - at least that would least a month until I get a damn clean cortisol test done. I DO have ONE uncontaminated morning cort number (low - but not according to the $#%2 range), ad the non-doubling of the ACTH Stim. <turn on sing-song-ish, little-kid teacher voice> " But that would require that they actually trust a test number. " Maybe I should go back the the %@# endo and waste another $300 of their money. Instead of perhaps Doc Don ($200/hr) or Henry Linderman ($210/hr), both of whom would be INFINITELY preferable. They seem to at least listen if the endo-idiot-God(?) says something rather than me - after I dig up a journal article or two backing up that 17 is NOT a normal morning cort number (for anyone). Heck, my mom said perhaps we (always 'we', never 'you'.. is co-dependency a sign of AF or hypoT??) should go see Dr. Bernstein - at *$450/hr* (his initial physical-to-end-all-physicals is 3 days long and costs 6.5 thousand dollars give or take a hundred or so. I don't know if that includes blood tests) Val, I'm gettin' there to never trusting doctors - not after probably screwing up half my life already due to a probably endocrine/ growth/development problem that my parents AND pediatrician missed. That and not treating my $#%@ acne with either immunosupressant antibiotics (as it eventually was - finally kicked the immune system into developing tolerance to the little buggers!) or low-dose cortisol (like ANYONE would have actually have read Jeffries book!) Jim * A teacher/AI of mine knew someone who was actually doing researach on the offspring of Vietnam vets. About the parent-child interaction problems it caused if I remember right. ** Ununquadium (114 electrons) actually does exist - sort of. Unless they've decided on an official name for it. But it's radioactive, and only lives for 2.6-30 seconds. Uuq-298 might be relatively stable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I just realized something that probably explains a lot (probably more than I know) about me and my Dad. What he calls " putting up with stress " and what I do are completely different - his is a conscious, and " emotionally painful " process, I would much rather it be an unconscious neuro-endocrine process based on cortisol. (Three guesses on which is better in terms of cell oxidization, etc..) I suppose that might link with the Navy training thing - some people just have incredibly (biochemically) tolerance HPA axes, the rest of us - we just have to " put up with it " by.. whatever the painful and destructive conscious process is.. Or they just inject people with steroids to pump up the system - I'm not sure they were still doing this in Vietnam, Jeffries mentions it with reference to WWII though. I wonder if he was exposed to Agent Orange, and if that might have affected me - I'm not sure if his tour was before I was born or not, or whether Agent Orange can cause endocrine-disrupting affects that work *through* sperm.. If so, my chapter to the book I'm thinking of " Stolen Lives, Stolen Futures " (all about hypoT, hypoC, and more severe endocrine problems from the *patients'* [suffereres, 'affectees', people, whatever] POVs) gets a bit more interesting. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I just realized something that probably explains a lot (probably more than I know) about me and my Dad. What he calls " putting up with stress " and what I do are completely different - his is a conscious, and " emotionally painful " process, I would much rather it be an unconscious neuro-endocrine process based on cortisol. (Three guesses on which is better in terms of cell oxidization, etc..) I suppose that might link with the Navy training thing - some people just have incredibly (biochemically) tolerance HPA axes, the rest of us - we just have to " put up with it " by.. whatever the painful and destructive conscious process is.. Or they just inject people with steroids to pump up the system - I'm not sure they were still doing this in Vietnam, Jeffries mentions it with reference to WWII though. I wonder if he was exposed to Agent Orange, and if that might have affected me - I'm not sure if his tour was before I was born or not, or whether Agent Orange can cause endocrine-disrupting affects that work *through* sperm.. If so, my chapter to the book I'm thinking of " Stolen Lives, Stolen Futures " (all about hypoT, hypoC, and more severe endocrine problems from the *patients'* [suffereres, 'affectees', people, whatever] POVs) gets a bit more interesting. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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