Is there ever an end to chelation?

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Hi everyone,

Is there ever an end to chelation? I've been chelating for 2 years and

3 months now. I've used TD DMPS for this whole time. I've been using

8 drops every four hours for 3 days on and 4 days off(totalling 48

drops each on day which I believe would be 48 mg of DMPS & 192 mg of

glutathione) for quite a while now. I've posted all of my urine toxic

metals & fecal metals test results, except I forgot to post my begining

hair analysis. Here they are:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carolyn_naturalhealth/sets/7215760229473682

5/detail/

I see no pattern in the results that looks like chelation might be

almost done. We're talking about switching to oral DMSA because of the

low mercury & lead amount coming out. Any comments would be great. I

thought that chelation only took about 2 years.

Carolyn

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From: carolynw4

Is there ever an end to chelation? I've been chelating for 2 years and

3 months now.

===>Carolyn, I have no answers for you but I've been wondering the same thing

for some time now. We've done 115 rounds in 2.6 years and although our little

one would be considered very typical cognitive wise we are still dealing with

health issues e.g. thyroid and some immune problems.

I have read in the archives of people in the past who have chelated for a year

and their child is fine. Now, however, it seems to me it depends on the age of

the child and how many vaccinations they received. Each year they add more and

our little one got the full complement including the varicella and pneumonia vax

that they pulled off the market because some children died.

I don't read of people just chelating a year anymore with good results.

I've used TD DMPS for this whole time. I've been using

8 drops every four hours for 3 days on and 4 days off(totalling 48

drops each on day which I believe would be 48 mg of DMPS & 192 mg of

glutathione) for quite a while now. I've posted all of my urine toxic

metals & fecal metals test results, except I forgot to post my begining

hair analysis. Here they are:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carolyn_naturalhealth/sets/7215760229473682

5/detail/

I see no pattern in the results that looks like chelation might be

almost done. We're talking about switching to oral DMSA because of the

low mercury & lead amount coming out. Any comments would be great. I

thought that chelation only took about 2 years.

Carolyn

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>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Is there ever an end to chelation? I've been chelating for 2 years and

> 3 months now. I've used TD DMPS for this whole time. I've been using

> 8 drops every four hours for 3 days on and 4 days off(totalling 48

> drops each on day which I believe would be 48 mg of DMPS & 192 mg of

> glutathione) for quite a while now. I've posted all of my urine toxic

TD glutathione is not recommended. If you are sure you are low sulfur

and need more, it may not do any harm.

> metals & fecal metals test results, except I forgot to post my begining

> hair analysis. Here they are:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/carolyn_naturalhealth/sets/7215760229473682

> 5/detail/

Urine and fecal excretion tests don't have any meaning to me.

How are your symptoms? Have you seen any improvement?

I know someone posted on autism-mercury that they had used TD

chelation with no improvements to speak of, but when they changed

to oral they saw big improvements.

> I see no pattern in the results that looks like chelation might be

> almost done.

These tests do not tell you whether chelation is working. Changes

in symptoms tell you that.

We're talking about switching to oral DMSA because of the

> low mercury & lead amount coming out.

If you are not seeing improvement, I would say try oral.

Any comments would be great. I

> thought that chelation only took about 2 years.

It takes variable amount of time depending on the person.

--

> Carolyn

>

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>

> Carolynw4, if you are saying that you have only

> chelated with TD DMPS, then you will never finish

> chelating. #1, TD DMPS is not part of the Frequent

> Dose Chelation protocol. You have essentially

> completed the recommended process that starts 4 days

> after all amalgam has been removed. After 3 months of

> oral DMSA, or a RX for oral DMPS you then begin using

> oral ALA. It is the ALA that completes the process of

> ridding the body and brain of mercury.

>

Can one do the following : Start with TD DMPS for about 3 months (with

a one drop increase for each round to gradually introduce chelation),

then switch to oral DMSA & ALA? My DAN doc works only with TD DMPS. I

may have a hard time persuading a change, and then I don't know if she

would be willing to support me if I do change to oral DMSA.

> I did not like the side effects of DMPS so I completed

> chelating for 2 years with ALA only.

What were your side effects? I believe one can get skin rashes. I had

eczema since childhood which is now under control. I do not like the

idea of spreading rashes all over again.

> You need to start the program. If a doctor has you

> doing the TD-DMPS he is fully up to speed with our

> modern medical industry. The pharmaceutical

> corporation will have its regular monthly revenue for

> your prescription renewals. The doctor will have his

> regular billings every 6 months for your office visits

> to renew your prescriptions. He was told in medical

> school that for dedicating his life to helping

> humanity, he should expect to get rich.

Would this hold true for a DAN doc as well?

>

>

> Take care of yourself first. You can do it.

>

> Klipfel

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

> Carolynw4, if you are saying that you have only

> chelated with TD DMPS, then you will never finish

> chelating. #1, TD DMPS is not part of the Frequent

> Dose Chelation protocol. You have essentially

> completed the recommended process that starts 4 days

> after all amalgam has been removed. After 3 months of

> oral DMSA, or a RX for oral DMPS you then begin using

> oral ALA. It is the ALA that completes the process of

> ridding the body and brain of mercury.

>

Can one do the following : Start with TD DMPS for about 3 months (with

a one drop increase for each round to gradually introduce chelation),

then switch to oral DMSA & ALA? My DAN doc works only with TD DMPS. I

may have a hard time persuading a change, and then I don't know if she

would be willing to support me if I do change to oral DMSA.

> I did not like the side effects of DMPS so I completed

> chelating for 2 years with ALA only.

What were your side effects? I believe one can get skin rashes. I had

eczema since childhood which is now under control. I do not like the

idea of spreading rashes all over again.

> You need to start the program. If a doctor has you

> doing the TD-DMPS he is fully up to speed with our

> modern medical industry. The pharmaceutical

> corporation will have its regular monthly revenue for

> your prescription renewals. The doctor will have his

> regular billings every 6 months for your office visits

> to renew your prescriptions. He was told in medical

> school that for dedicating his life to helping

> humanity, he should expect to get rich.

Would this hold true for a DAN doc as well?

>

>

> Take care of yourself first. You can do it.

>

> Klipfel

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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You can try whatever you like. That is the program.

You start doses low and listen to your bodies

reactions. Increase slowly as your body can tolerate

the dosage. If your DAN doctor refuses to offer

anything but TD-DMPS, then you can switch to

non-prescription DMSA and add ALA 3 months after all

amalgams have been removed. You do not need

prescriptions. Take care of yourself first. If you

find some benefit to spending money on a doctor, that

is your call. Remember. TD-DMPS is NOT part of the

Frequent Dose Chelation protocol. Its half life in

your body is a variable. Your dosage is almost

impossible to control.

I was using oral DMSA per Hall Cutler's

protocol. I did not have any issues with rashes. It

gave me issues with digestion and aches and pains in

my abdomen. ALA by itself did not have this effect.

--- toowittybird toowittybird@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Carolynw4, if you are saying that you have only

> > chelated with TD DMPS, then you will never finish

> > chelating. #1, TD DMPS is not part of the

> Frequent

> > Dose Chelation protocol. You have essentially

> > completed the recommended process that starts 4

> days

> > after all amalgam has been removed. After 3

> months of

> > oral DMSA, or a RX for oral DMPS you then begin

> using

> > oral ALA. It is the ALA that completes the

> process of

> > ridding the body and brain of mercury.

> >

>

> Can one do the following : Start with TD DMPS for

> about 3 months (with

> a one drop increase for each round to gradually

> introduce chelation),

> then switch to oral DMSA & ALA? My DAN doc works

> only with TD DMPS. I

> may have a hard time persuading a change, and then I

> don't know if she

> would be willing to support me if I do change to

> oral DMSA.

>

> > I did not like the side effects of DMPS so I

> completed

> > chelating for 2 years with ALA only.

>

> What were your side effects? I believe one can get

> skin rashes. I had

> eczema since childhood which is now under control. I

> do not like the

> idea of spreading rashes all over again.

>

>

> > You need to start the program. If a doctor has

> you

> > doing the TD-DMPS he is fully up to speed with our

> > modern medical industry. The pharmaceutical

> > corporation will have its regular monthly revenue

> for

> > your prescription renewals. The doctor will have

> his

> > regular billings every 6 months for your office

> visits

> > to renew your prescriptions. He was told in

> medical

> > school that for dedicating his life to helping

> > humanity, he should expect to get rich.

>

> Would this hold true for a DAN doc as well?

> >

> >

> > Take care of yourself first. You can do it.

> >

> > Klipfel

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You can try whatever you like. That is the program.

You start doses low and listen to your bodies

reactions. Increase slowly as your body can tolerate

the dosage. If your DAN doctor refuses to offer

anything but TD-DMPS, then you can switch to

non-prescription DMSA and add ALA 3 months after all

amalgams have been removed. You do not need

prescriptions. Take care of yourself first. If you

find some benefit to spending money on a doctor, that

is your call. Remember. TD-DMPS is NOT part of the

Frequent Dose Chelation protocol. Its half life in

your body is a variable. Your dosage is almost

impossible to control.

I was using oral DMSA per Hall Cutler's

protocol. I did not have any issues with rashes. It

gave me issues with digestion and aches and pains in

my abdomen. ALA by itself did not have this effect.

--- toowittybird toowittybird@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Carolynw4, if you are saying that you have only

> > chelated with TD DMPS, then you will never finish

> > chelating. #1, TD DMPS is not part of the

> Frequent

> > Dose Chelation protocol. You have essentially

> > completed the recommended process that starts 4

> days

> > after all amalgam has been removed. After 3

> months of

> > oral DMSA, or a RX for oral DMPS you then begin

> using

> > oral ALA. It is the ALA that completes the

> process of

> > ridding the body and brain of mercury.

> >

>

> Can one do the following : Start with TD DMPS for

> about 3 months (with

> a one drop increase for each round to gradually

> introduce chelation),

> then switch to oral DMSA & ALA? My DAN doc works

> only with TD DMPS. I

> may have a hard time persuading a change, and then I

> don't know if she

> would be willing to support me if I do change to

> oral DMSA.

>

> > I did not like the side effects of DMPS so I

> completed

> > chelating for 2 years with ALA only.

>

> What were your side effects? I believe one can get

> skin rashes. I had

> eczema since childhood which is now under control. I

> do not like the

> idea of spreading rashes all over again.

>

>

> > You need to start the program. If a doctor has

> you

> > doing the TD-DMPS he is fully up to speed with our

> > modern medical industry. The pharmaceutical

> > corporation will have its regular monthly revenue

> for

> > your prescription renewals. The doctor will have

> his

> > regular billings every 6 months for your office

> visits

> > to renew your prescriptions. He was told in

> medical

> > school that for dedicating his life to helping

> > humanity, he should expect to get rich.

>

> Would this hold true for a DAN doc as well?

> >

> >

> > Take care of yourself first. You can do it.

> >

> > Klipfel

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You can try whatever you like. That is the program.

You start doses low and listen to your bodies

reactions. Increase slowly as your body can tolerate

the dosage. If your DAN doctor refuses to offer

anything but TD-DMPS, then you can switch to

non-prescription DMSA and add ALA 3 months after all

amalgams have been removed. You do not need

prescriptions. Take care of yourself first. If you

find some benefit to spending money on a doctor, that

is your call. Remember. TD-DMPS is NOT part of the

Frequent Dose Chelation protocol. Its half life in

your body is a variable. Your dosage is almost

impossible to control.

I was using oral DMSA per Hall Cutler's

protocol. I did not have any issues with rashes. It

gave me issues with digestion and aches and pains in

my abdomen. ALA by itself did not have this effect.

--- toowittybird toowittybird@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Carolynw4, if you are saying that you have only

> > chelated with TD DMPS, then you will never finish

> > chelating. #1, TD DMPS is not part of the

> Frequent

> > Dose Chelation protocol. You have essentially

> > completed the recommended process that starts 4

> days

> > after all amalgam has been removed. After 3

> months of

> > oral DMSA, or a RX for oral DMPS you then begin

> using

> > oral ALA. It is the ALA that completes the

> process of

> > ridding the body and brain of mercury.

> >

>

> Can one do the following : Start with TD DMPS for

> about 3 months (with

> a one drop increase for each round to gradually

> introduce chelation),

> then switch to oral DMSA & ALA? My DAN doc works

> only with TD DMPS. I

> may have a hard time persuading a change, and then I

> don't know if she

> would be willing to support me if I do change to

> oral DMSA.

>

> > I did not like the side effects of DMPS so I

> completed

> > chelating for 2 years with ALA only.

>

> What were your side effects? I believe one can get

> skin rashes. I had

> eczema since childhood which is now under control. I

> do not like the

> idea of spreading rashes all over again.

>

>

> > You need to start the program. If a doctor has

> you

> > doing the TD-DMPS he is fully up to speed with our

> > modern medical industry. The pharmaceutical

> > corporation will have its regular monthly revenue

> for

> > your prescription renewals. The doctor will have

> his

> > regular billings every 6 months for your office

> visits

> > to renew your prescriptions. He was told in

> medical

> > school that for dedicating his life to helping

> > humanity, he should expect to get rich.

>

> Would this hold true for a DAN doc as well?

> >

> >

> > Take care of yourself first. You can do it.

> >

> > Klipfel

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If brain mercury is causing your problems you can chelate for 10

years with DMPS and you won't get well. You need to add ALA.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Is there ever an end to chelation? I've been chelating for 2 years

and

> 3 months now. I've used TD DMPS for this whole time. I've been

using

> 8 drops every four hours for 3 days on and 4 days off(totalling 48

> drops each on day which I believe would be 48 mg of DMPS & 192 mg

of

> glutathione) for quite a while now. I've posted all of my urine

toxic

> metals & fecal metals test results, except I forgot to post my

begining

> hair analysis. Here they are:

>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carolyn_naturalhealth/sets/72157602294736

82

> 5/detail/

>

> I see no pattern in the results that looks like chelation might be

> almost done. We're talking about switching to oral DMSA because of

the

> low mercury & lead amount coming out. Any comments would be

great. I

> thought that chelation only took about 2 years.

>

> Carolyn

>

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Just a caveat to this; Andy has said on A-M that he *does* consider transdermal

an acceptable alternative to oral and that he has seen it work, with children at

least. You might want to ask him.

Personally, I think the oral works better but in cases where this is not

feasible, the td's offer another choice. We have used oral dmsa/ala and

transdermal dmps, both worked well and added something different to our little

one's recovery.

You can try whatever you like. That is the program.

You start doses low and listen to your bodies

reactions. Increase slowly as your body can tolerate

the dosage. If your DAN doctor refuses to offer

anything but TD-DMPS, then you can switch to

non-prescription DMSA and add ALA 3 months after all

amalgams have been removed. You do not need

prescriptions. Take care of yourself first. If you

find some benefit to spending money on a doctor, that

is your call. Remember. TD-DMPS is NOT part of the

Frequent Dose Chelation protocol. Its half life in

your body is a variable. Your dosage is almost

impossible to control.

I was using oral DMSA per Hall Cutler's

protocol. I did not have any issues with rashes. It

gave me issues with digestion and aches and pains in

my abdomen. ALA by itself did not have this effect.

--- toowittybird toowittybird@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Carolynw4, if you are saying that you have only

> > chelated with TD DMPS, then you will never finish

> > chelating. #1, TD DMPS is not part of the

> Frequent

> > Dose Chelation protocol. You have essentially

> > completed the recommended process that starts 4

> days

> > after all amalgam has been removed. After 3

> months of

> > oral DMSA, or a RX for oral DMPS you then begin

> using

> > oral ALA. It is the ALA that completes the

> process of

> > ridding the body and brain of mercury.

> >

>

> Can one do the following : Start with TD DMPS for

> about 3 months (with

> a one drop increase for each round to gradually

> introduce chelation),

> then switch to oral DMSA & ALA? My DAN doc works

> only with TD DMPS. I

> may have a hard time persuading a change, and then I

> don't know if she

> would be willing to support me if I do change to

> oral DMSA.

>

> > I did not like the side effects of DMPS so I

> completed

> > chelating for 2 years with ALA only.

>

> What were your side effects? I believe one can get

> skin rashes. I had

> eczema since childhood which is now under control. I

> do not like the

> idea of spreading rashes all over again.

>

>

> > You need to start the program. If a doctor has

> you

> > doing the TD-DMPS he is fully up to speed with our

> > modern medical industry. The pharmaceutical

> > corporation will have its regular monthly revenue

> for

> > your prescription renewals. The doctor will have

> his

> > regular billings every 6 months for your office

> visits

> > to renew your prescriptions. He was told in

> medical

> > school that for dedicating his life to helping

> > humanity, he should expect to get rich.

>

> Would this hold true for a DAN doc as well?

> >

> >

> > Take care of yourself first. You can do it.

> >

> > Klipfel

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