Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Welcome Andre comments interspersed in the text below.... > > I have many bad health problems for years, like these: > -very foggy thinking and other cognitive problems. > -tiredness > -poor liver function -> often yellow color around mouth. > -strange vision (tunnel, blurry, difficult to have overview) > -weak adrenals (I use low dose hydrocortisone now) > -slight joint pain in hand and feet > -bad digestion > -chronic fungal problems These all can be mercury symptoms. > They are so bad that I can only work part time and even have > difficulty with that. > > A year ago I did some testing. > > This were the 'high' results in URINE (all in mcg/g Creatinine): > Copper: 836,400 > Mangenese: 20,301 > Lead: 27,696 > Mercury: 32,520 > Nickel: 16,113 > For this test, I got an IV dose of 'DMPS & Zn-DTPA'. It was analysed > by microtrace.de (Germany). I live in the Netherlands. > It is difficult to make conclusions from a urine test for the reasons that you mentioned (normal range is w/o challenge dose and you were taking copper supplements). Also, DMPS will get some of the readily available metals but not any metals from the brain at all. Did you have side effects from the challenge dose? > I also did hair testing: 'Elemental Analysis Hair' at GSDL. All > except Uranium where within reference range: > Uranium: 0.0162 mcg/g (Ref= <0.0057) > > Is uranium problematic for health? > According to ANdy Cutler's " Hair Test Interpretation " book (p108) hair levels below 0.25 appear not to be significant for most people. > As I did not really trust the clinic where I did the Urine testing > (they offer expensive IV chelation) I did not start chelation. > Good for you. Stay as far away from them as possible. IV DMPS chelation has devastated many people. See www.dmpsbackfire.com > I had only 2 amalgam fillings which I had removed about a year ago. > At that time I could not imagine that heavy metals might be the root > cause of my problems. Now I am quite in doubt. > > I would be very grateful if someone could advise me about this. I > have just ordered Andy's book today. Do the data above indicate a > problem? Symptoms are suggestive of mercury or metal poisoning. > I discovered that the 'reference range' of the urine test > was based on urine without provocative chelation agent; so these > reference ranges are not representative, because I got IV DMPS & Zn- > DTPA. > > I am in doubt because also my copper level seemed to be quite high. I > must say that in that time I was using a Multi-supplement with high > Copper (1000mcg per day) and high manganese (5mg per day). That might > have influenced the urine test? I did quit that Multi-supplement. > > I think that the detox-capacity of my body is quite low at this > moment. I have chronic obstipation for years. Start supplementing vitamin C and magnesium. These should help with the constipation as you ramp up the doses (and eat fruit and vegetables). >I know that disposal of > heavy metals is mainly through bile/gut, so I am afraid that I am re- > absorbing a lot of it. >Is it possible that my liver is poor because > of heavy metals? Yes > Or do I have these metals because my liver is not > optimal? The metals would come from exposure from the environment. THe more toxic the person is the less able to clear metals leading to a catch 22 type situation. Some people are genetically less able to clear metals. > Recently I did my first liver flush. > A liver flush is very stressful on an already stressed liver. We strongly discourage toxic people from using them. They could precipitate a gall bladder attack. Many of the supplements on Andy's list support the liver. Try a 'liver friendly' diet. > Do you think I should start chelation? First educate yourself with Andy's book and reading through the files and links sections here. Once you are sure you understand Andy's protocol, and have started on basic supplements, you could do a trial of chelation at very low doses (starting at about 12.5 mg or less). Side effects with chelation will confirm toxicity. > What about copper as ALA seems > to increase that? > It depends on how high copper is on your hair test. J > Thank you so much for any advice!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Welcome Andre comments interspersed in the text below.... > > I have many bad health problems for years, like these: > -very foggy thinking and other cognitive problems. > -tiredness > -poor liver function -> often yellow color around mouth. > -strange vision (tunnel, blurry, difficult to have overview) > -weak adrenals (I use low dose hydrocortisone now) > -slight joint pain in hand and feet > -bad digestion > -chronic fungal problems These all can be mercury symptoms. > They are so bad that I can only work part time and even have > difficulty with that. > > A year ago I did some testing. > > This were the 'high' results in URINE (all in mcg/g Creatinine): > Copper: 836,400 > Mangenese: 20,301 > Lead: 27,696 > Mercury: 32,520 > Nickel: 16,113 > For this test, I got an IV dose of 'DMPS & Zn-DTPA'. It was analysed > by microtrace.de (Germany). I live in the Netherlands. > It is difficult to make conclusions from a urine test for the reasons that you mentioned (normal range is w/o challenge dose and you were taking copper supplements). Also, DMPS will get some of the readily available metals but not any metals from the brain at all. Did you have side effects from the challenge dose? > I also did hair testing: 'Elemental Analysis Hair' at GSDL. All > except Uranium where within reference range: > Uranium: 0.0162 mcg/g (Ref= <0.0057) > > Is uranium problematic for health? > According to ANdy Cutler's " Hair Test Interpretation " book (p108) hair levels below 0.25 appear not to be significant for most people. > As I did not really trust the clinic where I did the Urine testing > (they offer expensive IV chelation) I did not start chelation. > Good for you. Stay as far away from them as possible. IV DMPS chelation has devastated many people. See www.dmpsbackfire.com > I had only 2 amalgam fillings which I had removed about a year ago. > At that time I could not imagine that heavy metals might be the root > cause of my problems. Now I am quite in doubt. > > I would be very grateful if someone could advise me about this. I > have just ordered Andy's book today. Do the data above indicate a > problem? Symptoms are suggestive of mercury or metal poisoning. > I discovered that the 'reference range' of the urine test > was based on urine without provocative chelation agent; so these > reference ranges are not representative, because I got IV DMPS & Zn- > DTPA. > > I am in doubt because also my copper level seemed to be quite high. I > must say that in that time I was using a Multi-supplement with high > Copper (1000mcg per day) and high manganese (5mg per day). That might > have influenced the urine test? I did quit that Multi-supplement. > > I think that the detox-capacity of my body is quite low at this > moment. I have chronic obstipation for years. Start supplementing vitamin C and magnesium. These should help with the constipation as you ramp up the doses (and eat fruit and vegetables). >I know that disposal of > heavy metals is mainly through bile/gut, so I am afraid that I am re- > absorbing a lot of it. >Is it possible that my liver is poor because > of heavy metals? Yes > Or do I have these metals because my liver is not > optimal? The metals would come from exposure from the environment. THe more toxic the person is the less able to clear metals leading to a catch 22 type situation. Some people are genetically less able to clear metals. > Recently I did my first liver flush. > A liver flush is very stressful on an already stressed liver. We strongly discourage toxic people from using them. They could precipitate a gall bladder attack. Many of the supplements on Andy's list support the liver. Try a 'liver friendly' diet. > Do you think I should start chelation? First educate yourself with Andy's book and reading through the files and links sections here. Once you are sure you understand Andy's protocol, and have started on basic supplements, you could do a trial of chelation at very low doses (starting at about 12.5 mg or less). Side effects with chelation will confirm toxicity. > What about copper as ALA seems > to increase that? > It depends on how high copper is on your hair test. J > Thank you so much for any advice!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Thanks for your response. I am more and more convinced that I must try chelation. I can't wait to read Andy's book! I already have read quite a lot of Andy's reactions which are collected on a web-site. I also was afraid that making conclusions about my urine-test data is difficult and uncertain. Ok, I should not bother too much about Uranium. Thank god I followed my intuition about the IV chelation! About liver, detox-problems and heavy metals: it seems a chicken-and- egg problem! I think you're right a liver flush is too stressful. At first I felt a bit better (the same morning). However, later on, it seemed as if my brain was even more foggy. Maybe the liver flushed some heavy metals which were distributed in the body? I will definitely try some rounds with a low-dose DMSA (12.5 mg). I already ordered it. I will introduce ALA later on. But first I will read Andy's book (is underway). I REALLY REALLY hope that this will be the culprit as I am searching and searching for years. I have tried so many things.... That I met this forum might be my rescue. I cannot imagine to live the rest of my live as I do now. I am in tears very often. Luckily I get partner and family support, but most other people have no idea what I am going through. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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