Re: A dilemma needing advice

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Could it be eczema?I had weird skin peeling a few times before I began the diet andonce afterwards - I think (not positive) it was eczema - and it seemsto me likely that the last outbreak was a herings law of cure thingy. I read up on the internet and they suggested using honey or salt orvinegar packs on the effected area. I ended up doing all three and it worked, although it left the area looking red from the new skin. Also, I note that you are on for 6 months now - it's inflammation, right, so itcould possibly be a minor flare or die off. I notice that exacerbation of skin lesions is one of the things that Wikipediamentions for herxheimer reaction. Also it could be one of those herings law of cure type things -where, during the lengthy natural healing process, your bodywill heal itself in order of severity, from the inside out, etc. http://books.google.com/books?id=LColT6LtubcC & pg=PA21 & lpg=PA21 & dq=herring's+law+of+cure & source=web & ots=XFG1qATp3l & sig=qdfko990j2i-tle8evc2XRNNwng & hl=en & sa=X & oi=book_result & resnum=10 & ct=resultAnyway, just some guesses. MaraI have a dilemma that I need some advice about. I have the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis. A few weeks ago I began to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general). The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related? That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to before. I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments, various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away. Comments? What else should I try? n (I’m copying this to a couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!) _________________________________________________ I blog at: www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com A "very readable biography": Frideric Handel: A Music Lover's Guide by n Van TilAvailable at www.WordPowerPublishing.com and amazon.com

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Could it be eczema?I had weird skin peeling a few times before I began the diet andonce afterwards - I think (not positive) it was eczema - and it seemsto me likely that the last outbreak was a herings law of cure thingy. I read up on the internet and they suggested using honey or salt orvinegar packs on the effected area. I ended up doing all three and it worked, although it left the area looking red from the new skin. Also, I note that you are on for 6 months now - it's inflammation, right, so itcould possibly be a minor flare or die off. I notice that exacerbation of skin lesions is one of the things that Wikipediamentions for herxheimer reaction. Also it could be one of those herings law of cure type things -where, during the lengthy natural healing process, your bodywill heal itself in order of severity, from the inside out, etc. http://books.google.com/books?id=LColT6LtubcC & pg=PA21 & lpg=PA21 & dq=herring's+law+of+cure & source=web & ots=XFG1qATp3l & sig=qdfko990j2i-tle8evc2XRNNwng & hl=en & sa=X & oi=book_result & resnum=10 & ct=resultAnyway, just some guesses. MaraI have a dilemma that I need some advice about. I have the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis. A few weeks ago I began to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general). The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related? That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to before. I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments, various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away. Comments? What else should I try? n (I’m copying this to a couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!) _________________________________________________ I blog at: www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com A "very readable biography": Frideric Handel: A Music Lover's Guide by n Van TilAvailable at www.WordPowerPublishing.com and amazon.com

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Could it be eczema?I had weird skin peeling a few times before I began the diet andonce afterwards - I think (not positive) it was eczema - and it seemsto me likely that the last outbreak was a herings law of cure thingy. I read up on the internet and they suggested using honey or salt orvinegar packs on the effected area. I ended up doing all three and it worked, although it left the area looking red from the new skin. Also, I note that you are on for 6 months now - it's inflammation, right, so itcould possibly be a minor flare or die off. I notice that exacerbation of skin lesions is one of the things that Wikipediamentions for herxheimer reaction. Also it could be one of those herings law of cure type things -where, during the lengthy natural healing process, your bodywill heal itself in order of severity, from the inside out, etc. http://books.google.com/books?id=LColT6LtubcC & pg=PA21 & lpg=PA21 & dq=herring's+law+of+cure & source=web & ots=XFG1qATp3l & sig=qdfko990j2i-tle8evc2XRNNwng & hl=en & sa=X & oi=book_result & resnum=10 & ct=resultAnyway, just some guesses. MaraI have a dilemma that I need some advice about. I have the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis. A few weeks ago I began to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general). The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related? That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to before. I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments, various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away. Comments? What else should I try? n (I’m copying this to a couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!) _________________________________________________ I blog at: www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com A "very readable biography": Frideric Handel: A Music Lover's Guide by n Van TilAvailable at www.WordPowerPublishing.com and amazon.com

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n

dont forget that crohns is an autoimmune disease, as is psoriasis so it is entirely possible that your rash could be psoriasis. One of the best creams we have discovered is from the Body Shop and is Hemp moisturiser. it has helped clear up my husbands psoriasis amazingly but in exchange, his crohns seemed to go worse. The Drs all say that cant happen but then they also say crohns cant be helped by diet!!!!

 

jena

Husband john crohns 8 mths

sce 7 mths, very good results, very low meds

I have a dilemma that I need some advice about.

 

I have the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis.

 

A few weeks ago I began to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general). The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related? That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to before.  I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments, various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away.

 

Comments? What else should I try?

 

n

 

(I’m copying this to a couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!)

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jena (and to Mara for very helpful comments in another

post).

I certainly haven’t forgotten that Crohn’s is an auto-immune

condition, as are all the other things I suffer from! But LDN is helping amazingly,

and of course the diet is helping a lot as well. I’ll take a look at the stuff you

suggest. (It’s not really a rash; it’s more just itchy, stinging inflamed

cheeks and area around the mouth.)

 Interestingly, in desperation this afternoon I smoothed about a

tablespoon of my SCD yogurt onto the area. It felt great and the sting and itch

let up – but only for a while. I can’t explain why the yogurt would help at all,

but it did.

n

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BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of jena

stafford

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:41 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: A dilemma needing advice

n

dont forget that crohns is an autoimmune disease, as is

psoriasis so it is entirely possible that your rash could be psoriasis. One of

the best creams we have discovered is from the Body Shop and is Hemp

moisturiser. it has helped clear up my husbands psoriasis amazingly but in

exchange, his crohns seemed to go worse. The Drs all say that cant happen

but then they also say crohns cant be helped by diet!!!!

jena

Husband john crohns 8 mths

sce 7 mths, very good results, very low meds

I have a dilemma that I

need some advice about.

I have the Specific

Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having

excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis.

A few weeks ago I began

to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the

mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put

heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general).

The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the

area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s

driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this

particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what

could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a

problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms

of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral

spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related?

That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to

before. I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments,

various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away.

Comments? What else

should I try?

n

(I’m copying this to a

couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!)

_________________________________________________

I

blog at: www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

A

" very readable biography " :

Frideric Handel: A Music Lover's Guide by n Van Til

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at www.WordPowerPublishing.com

and amazon.com

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05:53:00

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jena (and to Mara for very helpful comments in another

post).

I certainly haven’t forgotten that Crohn’s is an auto-immune

condition, as are all the other things I suffer from! But LDN is helping amazingly,

and of course the diet is helping a lot as well. I’ll take a look at the stuff you

suggest. (It’s not really a rash; it’s more just itchy, stinging inflamed

cheeks and area around the mouth.)

 Interestingly, in desperation this afternoon I smoothed about a

tablespoon of my SCD yogurt onto the area. It felt great and the sting and itch

let up – but only for a while. I can’t explain why the yogurt would help at all,

but it did.

n

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of jena

stafford

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:41 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: A dilemma needing advice

n

dont forget that crohns is an autoimmune disease, as is

psoriasis so it is entirely possible that your rash could be psoriasis. One of

the best creams we have discovered is from the Body Shop and is Hemp

moisturiser. it has helped clear up my husbands psoriasis amazingly but in

exchange, his crohns seemed to go worse. The Drs all say that cant happen

but then they also say crohns cant be helped by diet!!!!

jena

Husband john crohns 8 mths

sce 7 mths, very good results, very low meds

I have a dilemma that I

need some advice about.

I have the Specific

Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having

excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis.

A few weeks ago I began

to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the

mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put

heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general).

The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the

area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s

driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this

particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what

could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a

problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms

of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral

spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related?

That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to

before. I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments,

various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away.

Comments? What else

should I try?

n

(I’m copying this to a

couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!)

_________________________________________________

I

blog at: www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

A

" very readable biography " :

Frideric Handel: A Music Lover's Guide by n Van Til

Available

at www.WordPowerPublishing.com

and amazon.com

Checked by

AVG - www.avg.com

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05:53:00

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jena (and to Mara for very helpful comments in another

post).

I certainly haven’t forgotten that Crohn’s is an auto-immune

condition, as are all the other things I suffer from! But LDN is helping amazingly,

and of course the diet is helping a lot as well. I’ll take a look at the stuff you

suggest. (It’s not really a rash; it’s more just itchy, stinging inflamed

cheeks and area around the mouth.)

 Interestingly, in desperation this afternoon I smoothed about a

tablespoon of my SCD yogurt onto the area. It felt great and the sting and itch

let up – but only for a while. I can’t explain why the yogurt would help at all,

but it did.

n

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of jena

stafford

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:41 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: A dilemma needing advice

n

dont forget that crohns is an autoimmune disease, as is

psoriasis so it is entirely possible that your rash could be psoriasis. One of

the best creams we have discovered is from the Body Shop and is Hemp

moisturiser. it has helped clear up my husbands psoriasis amazingly but in

exchange, his crohns seemed to go worse. The Drs all say that cant happen

but then they also say crohns cant be helped by diet!!!!

jena

Husband john crohns 8 mths

sce 7 mths, very good results, very low meds

I have a dilemma that I

need some advice about.

I have the Specific

Carbohydrate Diet for six months and on LDN for 5 ½ months, and am having

excellent results re: my Crohn’s, my allergies, asthma and arthritis.

A few weeks ago I began

to get irritated skin on my lower face, mostly on the lower cheeks, around the

mouth and a bit on the chin. It itches like the blazes, and if I don’t put

heavy-duty moisturizer on it, the skin gets dry (I tend to have dry skin in general).

The tissues of my lower face are actually swollen (perhaps from scratching the

area inadvertently while asleep. I try not to do that while awake, though it’s

driving me crazy. The LDN has helped my allergies and asthma, so this

particular thing – which seems allergy like – is odd. I can’t figure out what

could be causing this. It sounds almost psoriasis like, but I’ve never had a

problem with that. I don’t think I have a yeast problem – no (other) symptoms

of that, and I’m taking oil of oregano and a homeopathic yeast remedy ( an oral

spray; no sugar in it), just to make sure. Could it be somehow diet-related?

That seems unlikely since I’m not eating anything now that I’ve ever reacted to

before. I’ve tried any number of remedies, including anti-itch ointments,

various serums, moisturizers, even DMSO with aloe. So far, it’s not going away.

Comments? What else

should I try?

n

(I’m copying this to a

couple of related lists I’m on. One can never have too much good advice!)

_________________________________________________

I

blog at: www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

A

" very readable biography " :

Frideric Handel: A Music Lover's Guide by n Van Til

Available

at www.WordPowerPublishing.com

and amazon.com

Checked by

AVG - www.avg.com

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05:53:00

[Guest guest]

Hey n,

I could be way off base.. but have you looked at Dairy that you eat?

I found that some of my skin issues got much better after eliminating dairy (I

was never very sensitive to dairy to begin with.. even pre SCD although Ice

cream made me sick as a dog)

Anyway, I also use yogurt as a topical remedy. I also have purchased different

types of clay that I mix in with the yogurt to make a mask and use that

topically and it works really well.

Just an idea that you may want to look into.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Good thought, Jodi. But I’ve been eating SCD yogurt for the last

five months. Why would that be a problem suddenly? And if it were, wouldn’t it

be a problem for my skin as well?

If I can’t figure out other causes (and remedies) I’ll try not

eating yogurt for a while and see what happens.

n

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of jodah235

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:13 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: A dilemma needing advice

Hey n,

I could be way off base.. but have you looked at Dairy that you eat?

I found that some of my skin issues got much better after eliminating dairy (I

was never very sensitive to dairy to begin with.. even pre SCD although Ice

cream made me sick as a dog)

Anyway, I also use yogurt as a topical remedy. I also have purchased different

types of clay that I mix in with the yogurt to make a mask and use that

topically and it works really well.

Just an idea that you may want to look into.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Good thought, Jodi. But I’ve been eating SCD yogurt for the last

five months. Why would that be a problem suddenly? And if it were, wouldn’t it

be a problem for my skin as well?

If I can’t figure out other causes (and remedies) I’ll try not

eating yogurt for a while and see what happens.

n

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of jodah235

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:13 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: A dilemma needing advice

Hey n,

I could be way off base.. but have you looked at Dairy that you eat?

I found that some of my skin issues got much better after eliminating dairy (I

was never very sensitive to dairy to begin with.. even pre SCD although Ice

cream made me sick as a dog)

Anyway, I also use yogurt as a topical remedy. I also have purchased different

types of clay that I mix in with the yogurt to make a mask and use that

topically and it works really well.

Just an idea that you may want to look into.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

n,

Might not be the yogurt.. might be other dairy in general (cheese).

Just an FYI some people develop a weird sensitivity to foods after months and no

it doesn't have to affect you in the normal ways.

I for instance after a year on the diet started flaring on my skin as opposed to

the insides. It was a very weird period for me. Bizzare rashes, blotches of

rosacea. I even had to go to a dermatologist a couple of times- it got so bad

on my face and on my side. I also developed many dry skin patches.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

n,

Might not be the yogurt.. might be other dairy in general (cheese).

Just an FYI some people develop a weird sensitivity to foods after months and no

it doesn't have to affect you in the normal ways.

I for instance after a year on the diet started flaring on my skin as opposed to

the insides. It was a very weird period for me. Bizzare rashes, blotches of

rosacea. I even had to go to a dermatologist a couple of times- it got so bad

on my face and on my side. I also developed many dry skin patches.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Interestingly, in desperation this afternoon I smoothed about a tablespoon of my SCD yogurt onto the area. It felt great and the sting and itch let up – but only for a while. I can’t explain why the yogurt would help at all, but it did.Well, all the facials I've ever used are food (honey, avocado, banana, olive oil, curdled milk), so apparently, if it's good to eat just slap it on your face! Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi n,

The derma consult was pretty useless but at the time I was so worried about my

face I went back like 3 times. He wanted to prescribe me an antibiotic cream

that can cause C Diff- so that was a nono given my history! He prescribed a

facial cleanser too. He is a pretty good derma considering- caught himself with

the cream.

He told me that if the red blotches wouldn't go away I could do these pricey

laser treatments (I was getting very self conscious) but it was just too

extravagant for my pocket book. I broke out with acne in between these blotches

but to me it didn't look like regular acne that I usually had throughout my

life. I never had such bad " rosacea " in my life. It also peeled over a couple

of weeks- It was painful and awful.

Fermented Cod Liver Oil (teaspoon daily) helped tremendously!

Basically I went to the Derma to make sure everything was ok because I got a bit

freaked out. To be honest this has happened to many of my body parts since

starting SCD that it really just makes me feel that since I am so out of whack

for so many years- healing just works in a mysterious way. Hering's really

speaks to me.

It's like the bizzare stuff with the teeth.. only a few people experienced that

one too.

I feel that some of my flares now occur on my skin. I just got a patch of like

a rash on my side again- this is right after I had too much coconut oil in my

smoothie. Interesting, huh? Hate categorizing everything as die off but

frankly it's like a battle field inside me.

At a certain point I just stopped using anything on my skin and just let it do

it's thing. I am not saying that is what you should do! I just got so

disenchanted with the conventional thought of drying the heck out of my skin,

just to be so uncomfortable.. wasn't for me.

For moisturizing my body these days I use either;

coconut oil, sesame oil, sweet almond oil, jojoba oil.

I had to get used to the feeling of oil which is something I never liked. I did

find an emulsified shea butter that I can add some oil to. But many of my

home-made cosmetic experiments have ended up in major clean up.. which calls for

much elbow grease LOL.

Let me know how it works out for you and if you have any tips.

Jodi

> Jodi, your experience sounds somewhat like what's happening to me. (My face

> is more swollen today but slightly less itchy. Someone recommended offlist

> that I see a dermatologist. I'm reluctant to do that until I've tried some

> of the natural remedies suggested. I wasn't impressed with the last

> dermatologist I went to. Very conventional. Probably wouldn't even think

> yeast can be a problem, e.g. So I'm curious: what did your dermatologist

> recommend/prescribe? Was he/she helpful?