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In a message dated 2/11/2002 5:39:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sue2413@... writes:

> I received my paper work to apply for disability, I can't believe all the

> paper work, and they want it back in 10 days. They ask questions that I

> don't even know how to answer ! Any recommendations? Are the forms the

> same

> in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> Thanks

> Sue

>

Hi Sue,

I live in CA and I'm in the process of trying to get disability. The

paper work is very long here too. After you return your papers in 10 days

most likely they will send you even more that ask the same questions over and

over in different ways. Part of my fibro problems involve my hands and

fingers so I had a hard time filling it out.

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In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,

shekinahseeker@... writes:

> I'm in the process at the present and I'm amazed at

> the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

>

> Sparky

>

I actually got as far as getting a hearing date. It came up much sooner than

my lawyer expected. He said he wasn't prepared and declined to represent me

at the last minute. I had to cancel and now I will be starting the paper work

all over again. This time I have a better lawyer. I turned 24 in January and

I need to get this done before I'm 25 so work credits don't affect me as

much.

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In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,

shekinahseeker@... writes:

> I'm in the process at the present and I'm amazed at

> the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

>

> Sparky

>

I actually got as far as getting a hearing date. It came up much sooner than

my lawyer expected. He said he wasn't prepared and declined to represent me

at the last minute. I had to cancel and now I will be starting the paper work

all over again. This time I have a better lawyer. I turned 24 in January and

I need to get this done before I'm 25 so work credits don't affect me as

much.

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In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,

shekinahseeker@... writes:

> I'm in the process at the present and I'm amazed at

> the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

>

> Sparky

>

I actually got as far as getting a hearing date. It came up much sooner than

my lawyer expected. He said he wasn't prepared and declined to represent me

at the last minute. I had to cancel and now I will be starting the paper work

all over again. This time I have a better lawyer. I turned 24 in January and

I need to get this done before I'm 25 so work credits don't affect me as

much.

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Hey Sue,

First of all, what type of disability did you file for? Their are many

types.

I am assuming it's Social Security Disability/Supplemental Security which is

almost always filed for at the same time. Depending on income into your home

of course. If it's SSA Disability then you must have just had your

appointment with the claims representative and you received the medical

report forms and the application to sign. Is this correct? If so then yes,

it's very tedious and a lot of the questions are very similar in wording.

Answer them all the best you can and be sure and make copies of all your

forms that go back to the agency. If you aren't sure about a question then

your office can help you best answer. If you have already had your

interview, then yes they would like them back in 10 days. If this is

impossible for you must either call and tell the rep to send a

message to your office telling them you cannot make that 10 day time frame

and about when you will be sending them in. The SSA office claims rep gets

your signed application from you along with your documents that are required

and then sends them to DDS. This is the agency which makes the decision on

your claim. Many think its the Social Security office itself that makes the

disability decision, but it's not. This takes approximately 4 months or so

for a decision. The forms are the same for all states because this is a

federal agency. Everyone has to fill out the disability report form and

vocational form. Their is also a form which is a release form and their sho

uld be 5 of these. All you do is sign and send or take back with the other

documents. This gives SSA permission to contact and get information that is

needed for your claim. Now if it's not SSA your filing for, then I probably

can't help you. Do not let this process stress you out. It's government and

paperwork and being repetitive is the nature of the beast. Time is not of

the essence either unless it's a terminal illness. Remember patience.

Hope this helps you,

/W

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Hey Sue,

First of all, what type of disability did you file for? Their are many

types.

I am assuming it's Social Security Disability/Supplemental Security which is

almost always filed for at the same time. Depending on income into your home

of course. If it's SSA Disability then you must have just had your

appointment with the claims representative and you received the medical

report forms and the application to sign. Is this correct? If so then yes,

it's very tedious and a lot of the questions are very similar in wording.

Answer them all the best you can and be sure and make copies of all your

forms that go back to the agency. If you aren't sure about a question then

your office can help you best answer. If you have already had your

interview, then yes they would like them back in 10 days. If this is

impossible for you must either call and tell the rep to send a

message to your office telling them you cannot make that 10 day time frame

and about when you will be sending them in. The SSA office claims rep gets

your signed application from you along with your documents that are required

and then sends them to DDS. This is the agency which makes the decision on

your claim. Many think its the Social Security office itself that makes the

disability decision, but it's not. This takes approximately 4 months or so

for a decision. The forms are the same for all states because this is a

federal agency. Everyone has to fill out the disability report form and

vocational form. Their is also a form which is a release form and their sho

uld be 5 of these. All you do is sign and send or take back with the other

documents. This gives SSA permission to contact and get information that is

needed for your claim. Now if it's not SSA your filing for, then I probably

can't help you. Do not let this process stress you out. It's government and

paperwork and being repetitive is the nature of the beast. Time is not of

the essence either unless it's a terminal illness. Remember patience.

Hope this helps you,

/W

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Hey Sue,

First of all, what type of disability did you file for? Their are many

types.

I am assuming it's Social Security Disability/Supplemental Security which is

almost always filed for at the same time. Depending on income into your home

of course. If it's SSA Disability then you must have just had your

appointment with the claims representative and you received the medical

report forms and the application to sign. Is this correct? If so then yes,

it's very tedious and a lot of the questions are very similar in wording.

Answer them all the best you can and be sure and make copies of all your

forms that go back to the agency. If you aren't sure about a question then

your office can help you best answer. If you have already had your

interview, then yes they would like them back in 10 days. If this is

impossible for you must either call and tell the rep to send a

message to your office telling them you cannot make that 10 day time frame

and about when you will be sending them in. The SSA office claims rep gets

your signed application from you along with your documents that are required

and then sends them to DDS. This is the agency which makes the decision on

your claim. Many think its the Social Security office itself that makes the

disability decision, but it's not. This takes approximately 4 months or so

for a decision. The forms are the same for all states because this is a

federal agency. Everyone has to fill out the disability report form and

vocational form. Their is also a form which is a release form and their sho

uld be 5 of these. All you do is sign and send or take back with the other

documents. This gives SSA permission to contact and get information that is

needed for your claim. Now if it's not SSA your filing for, then I probably

can't help you. Do not let this process stress you out. It's government and

paperwork and being repetitive is the nature of the beast. Time is not of

the essence either unless it's a terminal illness. Remember patience.

Hope this helps you,

/W

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Hi ,

Sounds to me like you might be getting or trying to get state disability?

Because again, Social Security is a federal program and the forms are the

same in every state. California is one of maybe 2-3 states that have a state

disability program. Very different from SSA. But you didn't say which one

your either on or applying for.

If it's state dib, the funds ends after a certain amount of time and they are

supposed to tell you to file for SSA Dib/SSI. The 10 days for SSA SSI Dib are

only after you have been interviewed. I am not sure what state requirements

are. I do know it's much different from the federal. Trust me on this,

whether it's local or federal government paperwork to fill out, it's all the

same icky stuff to fill out. Over and over and over again. Hopefully this

is of some help to you,

/WA

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Hi ,

Sounds to me like you might be getting or trying to get state disability?

Because again, Social Security is a federal program and the forms are the

same in every state. California is one of maybe 2-3 states that have a state

disability program. Very different from SSA. But you didn't say which one

your either on or applying for.

If it's state dib, the funds ends after a certain amount of time and they are

supposed to tell you to file for SSA Dib/SSI. The 10 days for SSA SSI Dib are

only after you have been interviewed. I am not sure what state requirements

are. I do know it's much different from the federal. Trust me on this,

whether it's local or federal government paperwork to fill out, it's all the

same icky stuff to fill out. Over and over and over again. Hopefully this

is of some help to you,

/WA

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Hi,

I can tell you from first hand experience... you

haven't seen anything yet. They will send you more,

and then some more, and than a couple of more.

Your friends will get forms asking questions that they

probably don't have any idea of about you. For

instance, what you watch on TV.

I'm in the process at the present and I'm amazed at

the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

Sparky

--- GreenEyez1978@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/11/2002 5:39:02 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> sue2413@... writes:

>

>

> > I received my paper work to apply for disability,

> I can't believe all the

> > paper work, and they want it back in 10 days.

> They ask questions that I

> > don't even know how to answer ! Any

> recommendations? Are the forms the

> > same

> > in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> > Thanks

> > Sue

> >

>

> Hi Sue,

> I live in CA and I'm in the process of trying

> to get disability. The

> paper work is very long here too. After you return

> your papers in 10 days

> most likely they will send you even more that ask

> the same questions over and

> over in different ways. Part of my fibro problems

> involve my hands and

> fingers so I had a hard time filling it out.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

God Bless,

Sparky aka Larry :)

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Hi,

I can tell you from first hand experience... you

haven't seen anything yet. They will send you more,

and then some more, and than a couple of more.

Your friends will get forms asking questions that they

probably don't have any idea of about you. For

instance, what you watch on TV.

I'm in the process at the present and I'm amazed at

the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

Sparky

--- GreenEyez1978@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/11/2002 5:39:02 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> sue2413@... writes:

>

>

> > I received my paper work to apply for disability,

> I can't believe all the

> > paper work, and they want it back in 10 days.

> They ask questions that I

> > don't even know how to answer ! Any

> recommendations? Are the forms the

> > same

> > in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> > Thanks

> > Sue

> >

>

> Hi Sue,

> I live in CA and I'm in the process of trying

> to get disability. The

> paper work is very long here too. After you return

> your papers in 10 days

> most likely they will send you even more that ask

> the same questions over and

> over in different ways. Part of my fibro problems

> involve my hands and

> fingers so I had a hard time filling it out.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

God Bless,

Sparky aka Larry :)

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Hi,

I can tell you from first hand experience... you

haven't seen anything yet. They will send you more,

and then some more, and than a couple of more.

Your friends will get forms asking questions that they

probably don't have any idea of about you. For

instance, what you watch on TV.

I'm in the process at the present and I'm amazed at

the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

Sparky

--- GreenEyez1978@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/11/2002 5:39:02 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> sue2413@... writes:

>

>

> > I received my paper work to apply for disability,

> I can't believe all the

> > paper work, and they want it back in 10 days.

> They ask questions that I

> > don't even know how to answer ! Any

> recommendations? Are the forms the

> > same

> > in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> > Thanks

> > Sue

> >

>

> Hi Sue,

> I live in CA and I'm in the process of trying

> to get disability. The

> paper work is very long here too. After you return

> your papers in 10 days

> most likely they will send you even more that ask

> the same questions over and

> over in different ways. Part of my fibro problems

> involve my hands and

> fingers so I had a hard time filling it out.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

God Bless,

Sparky aka Larry :)

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Hey there Joanne,

SSI is a low income benefit. I guess the best way to describe it is a

welfare based program. As a county employee who is expected to get a

retirement from the county you would not be eligible for this program.

I believe you mean SSA, or as some refer to as SSDI. However, as a county

employee who doesn't pay into FICA or Social Security as in the taxes which

come out of your paycheck, you very well may not be eligible for a benefit

anyway. Of course this all depends on what social security program that your

applying for. A lot of things are factored in the computation. You would

need to speak with a rep at SSA for this to be determined. Everyone who has

worked or not is computed at a different figure. But you are speaking of SSA

Disability or Retirement, whichever your situation is. SSDI is social

security disability income, SSA is the main meaning of the programs and can

be interpreted as retirement or disability. You must have worked and paid

into this system. SSI, is different. More like the welfare program where

all income into your home counts and that means all income from any source.

You may own your home. Welfare or social services as its really called, says

no you can't own any property. Their are so many variables that it is really

hard to pinpoint your situation.

Have a good night, gotta go to bed?

/WA-suesclues215

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Hey there Joanne,

SSI is a low income benefit. I guess the best way to describe it is a

welfare based program. As a county employee who is expected to get a

retirement from the county you would not be eligible for this program.

I believe you mean SSA, or as some refer to as SSDI. However, as a county

employee who doesn't pay into FICA or Social Security as in the taxes which

come out of your paycheck, you very well may not be eligible for a benefit

anyway. Of course this all depends on what social security program that your

applying for. A lot of things are factored in the computation. You would

need to speak with a rep at SSA for this to be determined. Everyone who has

worked or not is computed at a different figure. But you are speaking of SSA

Disability or Retirement, whichever your situation is. SSDI is social

security disability income, SSA is the main meaning of the programs and can

be interpreted as retirement or disability. You must have worked and paid

into this system. SSI, is different. More like the welfare program where

all income into your home counts and that means all income from any source.

You may own your home. Welfare or social services as its really called, says

no you can't own any property. Their are so many variables that it is really

hard to pinpoint your situation.

Have a good night, gotta go to bed?

/WA-suesclues215

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Hey there Joanne,

SSI is a low income benefit. I guess the best way to describe it is a

welfare based program. As a county employee who is expected to get a

retirement from the county you would not be eligible for this program.

I believe you mean SSA, or as some refer to as SSDI. However, as a county

employee who doesn't pay into FICA or Social Security as in the taxes which

come out of your paycheck, you very well may not be eligible for a benefit

anyway. Of course this all depends on what social security program that your

applying for. A lot of things are factored in the computation. You would

need to speak with a rep at SSA for this to be determined. Everyone who has

worked or not is computed at a different figure. But you are speaking of SSA

Disability or Retirement, whichever your situation is. SSDI is social

security disability income, SSA is the main meaning of the programs and can

be interpreted as retirement or disability. You must have worked and paid

into this system. SSI, is different. More like the welfare program where

all income into your home counts and that means all income from any source.

You may own your home. Welfare or social services as its really called, says

no you can't own any property. Their are so many variables that it is really

hard to pinpoint your situation.

Have a good night, gotta go to bed?

/WA-suesclues215

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--- sue2413@... wrote:

> I received my paper work to apply for

> disability, I can't believe all the

> paper work, and they want it back in 10 days.

> They ask questions that I

> don't even know how to answer ! Any

> recommendations? Are the forms the same

> in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> Thanks

> Sue

>

>

Hi Friends,

The hardest thing, besides the pain of fibro, in

my life was to keep working (32 years now). I

work for Los Angeles County, and if I can hang in

seven more years, I will get a full retirement.

Luckily, I have full medical now (after 25

years). If I would have had a decent husband, I

would have quit working 20 years ago, but that's

another story. I'm curious, though, just in

case--how much money do you (we) get on SSI?

Actually, we don't pay into SSI. I think we get

60 percent if work-related and less if not.

If I last seven more years, I get a full

retirement, which I need because I raised my kids

on my own, couldn't say no to hardly anything,

and I owe a lot, probably about $60,000 in credit

cards. I don't even own property. BUT, I pay

them on time every month, and I can continue to

do so as long as I stay 7 more years, so I will.

My fibro is miraculously nearly gone. Now I'm

living with interstitial cystitis. You feel like

you have a bladder infection, but you don't.

You have to go about every half hour to relieve

the pain. It's bad, but it does not compare in

the least to fibro.

I have a wonderful fiance. We've been together

five years, and the only reason we aren't married

is because he pays child support and his ex will

not work. In California they do consider the

spouse's income. Also, he has deep vein

thrombosis and may have to go on disability some

day, so I'll wait until his kids are 18. Anyway,

I have no idea why I wrote all this.

Joanne

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--- sue2413@... wrote:

> I received my paper work to apply for

> disability, I can't believe all the

> paper work, and they want it back in 10 days.

> They ask questions that I

> don't even know how to answer ! Any

> recommendations? Are the forms the same

> in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> Thanks

> Sue

>

>

Hi Friends,

The hardest thing, besides the pain of fibro, in

my life was to keep working (32 years now). I

work for Los Angeles County, and if I can hang in

seven more years, I will get a full retirement.

Luckily, I have full medical now (after 25

years). If I would have had a decent husband, I

would have quit working 20 years ago, but that's

another story. I'm curious, though, just in

case--how much money do you (we) get on SSI?

Actually, we don't pay into SSI. I think we get

60 percent if work-related and less if not.

If I last seven more years, I get a full

retirement, which I need because I raised my kids

on my own, couldn't say no to hardly anything,

and I owe a lot, probably about $60,000 in credit

cards. I don't even own property. BUT, I pay

them on time every month, and I can continue to

do so as long as I stay 7 more years, so I will.

My fibro is miraculously nearly gone. Now I'm

living with interstitial cystitis. You feel like

you have a bladder infection, but you don't.

You have to go about every half hour to relieve

the pain. It's bad, but it does not compare in

the least to fibro.

I have a wonderful fiance. We've been together

five years, and the only reason we aren't married

is because he pays child support and his ex will

not work. In California they do consider the

spouse's income. Also, he has deep vein

thrombosis and may have to go on disability some

day, so I'll wait until his kids are 18. Anyway,

I have no idea why I wrote all this.

Joanne

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--- sue2413@... wrote:

> I received my paper work to apply for

> disability, I can't believe all the

> paper work, and they want it back in 10 days.

> They ask questions that I

> don't even know how to answer ! Any

> recommendations? Are the forms the same

> in all states? I'm in Michigan.

> Thanks

> Sue

>

>

Hi Friends,

The hardest thing, besides the pain of fibro, in

my life was to keep working (32 years now). I

work for Los Angeles County, and if I can hang in

seven more years, I will get a full retirement.

Luckily, I have full medical now (after 25

years). If I would have had a decent husband, I

would have quit working 20 years ago, but that's

another story. I'm curious, though, just in

case--how much money do you (we) get on SSI?

Actually, we don't pay into SSI. I think we get

60 percent if work-related and less if not.

If I last seven more years, I get a full

retirement, which I need because I raised my kids

on my own, couldn't say no to hardly anything,

and I owe a lot, probably about $60,000 in credit

cards. I don't even own property. BUT, I pay

them on time every month, and I can continue to

do so as long as I stay 7 more years, so I will.

My fibro is miraculously nearly gone. Now I'm

living with interstitial cystitis. You feel like

you have a bladder infection, but you don't.

You have to go about every half hour to relieve

the pain. It's bad, but it does not compare in

the least to fibro.

I have a wonderful fiance. We've been together

five years, and the only reason we aren't married

is because he pays child support and his ex will

not work. In California they do consider the

spouse's income. Also, he has deep vein

thrombosis and may have to go on disability some

day, so I'll wait until his kids are 18. Anyway,

I have no idea why I wrote all this.

Joanne

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--- GreenEyez1978@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:35:02 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> shekinahseeker@... writes:

>

>

> > I'm in the process at the present and I'm

> amazed at

> > the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

> >

> > Sparky

> >

>

> I actually got as far as getting a hearing

> date. It came up much sooner than

> my lawyer expected. He said he wasn't prepared

> and declined to represent me

> at the last minute. I had to cancel and now I

> will be starting the paper work

> all over again. This time I have a better

> lawyer. I turned 24 in January and

> I need to get this done before I'm 25 so work

> credits don't affect me as

> much.

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

Hi ,

I'm in California too and am a supervisor for

L.A. County Public Defender. I hope you are NOT

paying that lawyer who dumped you. You can write

to the State Bar to make a complaint about what

your lawyer did. You probably won't have to pay

a dime.

Joanne

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--- GreenEyez1978@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:35:02 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> shekinahseeker@... writes:

>

>

> > I'm in the process at the present and I'm

> amazed at

> > the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

> >

> > Sparky

> >

>

> I actually got as far as getting a hearing

> date. It came up much sooner than

> my lawyer expected. He said he wasn't prepared

> and declined to represent me

> at the last minute. I had to cancel and now I

> will be starting the paper work

> all over again. This time I have a better

> lawyer. I turned 24 in January and

> I need to get this done before I'm 25 so work

> credits don't affect me as

> much.

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

Hi ,

I'm in California too and am a supervisor for

L.A. County Public Defender. I hope you are NOT

paying that lawyer who dumped you. You can write

to the State Bar to make a complaint about what

your lawyer did. You probably won't have to pay

a dime.

Joanne

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--- GreenEyez1978@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:35:02 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> shekinahseeker@... writes:

>

>

> > I'm in the process at the present and I'm

> amazed at

> > the paperwork that has been thrown at me.

> >

> > Sparky

> >

>

> I actually got as far as getting a hearing

> date. It came up much sooner than

> my lawyer expected. He said he wasn't prepared

> and declined to represent me

> at the last minute. I had to cancel and now I

> will be starting the paper work

> all over again. This time I have a better

> lawyer. I turned 24 in January and

> I need to get this done before I'm 25 so work

> credits don't affect me as

> much.

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

Hi ,

I'm in California too and am a supervisor for

L.A. County Public Defender. I hope you are NOT

paying that lawyer who dumped you. You can write

to the State Bar to make a complaint about what

your lawyer did. You probably won't have to pay

a dime.

Joanne

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In a message dated 2/11/2002 10:15:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,

suesclues215@... writes:

> Hi ,

> Sounds to me like you might be getting or trying to get state disability?

> Because again, Social Security is a federal program and the forms are the

> same in every state. California is one of maybe 2-3 states that have a

> state

> disability program. Very different from SSA. But you didn't say which one

> your either on or applying for.

>

Hello,

I'm filing for SSD. I don't qualify for CA state disability or SSI.

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In a message dated 2/11/2002 10:31:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

joannepd49@... writes:

> I'm in California too and am a supervisor for

> L.A. County Public Defender. I hope you are NOT

> paying that lawyer who dumped you. You can write

> to the State Bar to make a complaint about what

> your lawyer did. You probably won't have to pay

> a dime.

>

> Joanne

>

Hi Joanne,

I didn't pay him anything. He has always had a good track record in

the past but latley he has been ruining a lot of cases for people.

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Hold on there folks!

An attorney is not what you do until you have been denied 2 times and are

appealing what is called reconsideration. The process is you then file for

the Administrative law judge. This is where the attorney or the attorney

advisor comes in. Any attorney worth his salt will tell you he can't help

you until you are appealing at this level in the appeal process. It is a

waste of money for you to give an attorney if one says he can help you before

the ALJ process. This is not true. The attorney may be able to help fill

out forms or give advice but it isn't worth anyone paying an attorney until

you actually win your case in court. The best type of attorney is one who

specializes in Social Security cases.

/WA

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> In a message dated 2/11/2002 10:15:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> suesclues215@a... writes:

>

>

> > Hi ,

> > Sounds to me like you might be getting or trying to get state

disability?

> > Because again, Social Security is a federal program and the forms

are the

> > same in every state. California is one of maybe 2-3 states that

have a

> > state

> > disability program. Very different from SSA. But you didn't say

which one

> > your either on or applying for.

> >

> Hello,

> I'm filing for SSD. I don't qualify for CA state disability

or SSI.

>

>

> HI! You need to get a lawyer immediately. From every thing I've

read & seen, you are much more likely to win your case if you have an

attorney to back you up. The government delays the process as much as

it can. I wonder if you could find an attorney to represent you , why

couldn't he ask for some extra days to aquaint himself(or herself)

with your case? Norma

>

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