Re: Thyroid dump or Hashi's attack?? What to do next...

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I have had this kind of thing happen- which is the problem. Last time

I didn't even recognize that I was mildly hyper, but my pulse, blood

pressure (and free t3 and t4 were all up). That was definitely

Hashi's.

Now that I take temps and pulses all the time I am more aware. As for

the HC. I started based on monitoring Dr.Rinds temps (on STTM) and

due to other symptoms. No I did not do a saliva test. My own

alternative doc doesn't like them much and doesn't find them useful.

He also suggested Cortef based on my symptoms and history. Dr.

Durrant-Peatfield suggests that if in doubt probably go ahead with

the adrenal support. Most tests for adrenal reserve aren't that

accurate.

Anyway- thanks for your thoughts. I think I'll take down my thyroid a

peg and see what happens as this is going on day two.

Chris

>

> Have you had this type of thing happen before? It sounds like a

thyroid dump

> to me, but if you periodically have spells like this associated

with your

> Hashis then maybe not. I don't know enough on that to say. I'm sure

Val will

> have some idea. Also, did you do any testing of your cortisol

levels before

> starting tthe HC? It is always best to do that so you can be sure

what you

> are dealing with. If you have high cortisol, you don't want to add

more on

> top of it. :-)

>

> Rie

>

> A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will

annoy

> enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

>

> > Forum folks. If you've been successful on your thyroid/adrenal

> > program and especially if

> > you've had Hashi's I would love your two cents.

> >

> > I was diagnosed with Hashi's this past fall (VERY high TPO) and

> > after consulting with Dr.

> > Lowe decided to start on Armour Thyroid. After being on 120mg

> > Armour for three weeks I

> > retested. As my TPO was still extremely high I increased my

> > Armour dose to 150mg. At

> > that point I started doing Dr. Rind's averaged daily temps and

> > found them to be all over

> > the place. I had other signs and symptoms of adrenal deficit as

> > well so I added

> > hydrocortisone-dosing according to instructions on STTM.

> >

> > I did not decrease my Armour when I started cortisol, but

> > decided to go slowly and watch

> > for any signs of thyroid hormone dump. Got up to 20mg HC with no

> > problem. Now today-

> > my sixth day at the 20mg dose- my temp has gone up suddenly and

> > I've felt hyper all day

> > with a pulse between 80 and 90 for most of the day. (That's high

for me!)

> >

> > So here's the question...Do I assume that this is thyroid dump

> > and decrease/drop my

> > Armour temporarily? (That's what my gut says). On the other

> > hand, how can I be sure that

> > this isn't just another Hashis attack causing hyper symptoms from

> > thyroid tissue

> > destruction/hormone leakage? My last antibody test (at 120mg

> > Armour) was just over

> > three weeks ago and clearly the Armour hadn't slowed down the

> > autoimmune attack at

> > that point. I really want to get the antibodies down.

> >

> > Any thoughts from your experience??

> >

> > many thanks,

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

thanks for the reply, . It's really hard for me to tell

(Hashis or thyroid dump) because I am only mildly hyper (my

temperature has just jumped suddenly into normal range - nowhere near

99) but my pulse and blood pressure have also jumped up and are up

again consistently today. This experience is not so different from

the first time that I had a Hashi's attack when I was only on a low,

low dose of Armour and no HC.

Anyway, due to the timing I guess I will drop my thyroid down and see

what happens. Thanks for your response.

>

> I ewwould lower the thyrodi for now. Temps over 99 warrant lowering

it

> until they come down. Going hyper is counter productive when you

have

> adernal fatigue as it will only stress the adrenals and this shuts

off

> th elfow of thyroid to the cells anyway so there is little choice

abotu

> whqat needs to be done.

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