Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Lori, I am so sorry that your dad is so devastated by the news. I don't blame him. I wish that he did have some knowledge earlier, that URSO was not working as first was thought. Doctor Lindor himself was mentioning it in his research papers. But i don't believe that anyone would have imagined that the drug will have negative effects, and vey negative he, doctor Lindor has told you. I think he needs to at least tell us, the study group what these effects are. I did learn a very bad one from my study coordinator today. The development of varices. Myself, i have been wondering for some time now, why i have been feeling much sicker for the last few months. Excruciating pain and very frequent cholangitis attacks. Also my liver enzymes did start to rise after significantly declining. All of that but never thought that the outcome will be negative and that negative. Positive i hope: I know that you did want to hear something positive. There is a good number of studies going on everywhere. Here in the states and internationally, too. Dr. Chapman in England had a good outcome with a moderate dose of Urso, i read. I don't know what dosage your dad was on. But if it is moderate or mild then that is may be good news to him and if so then at least he can be comforted that he was not on the high dose, for example. Also, Mayo will be starting one, as soon as the NIH allows them i guess. Before i got enrolled in this study, i went into a very small, one year open label study with doctor Lindor. It was for CELLCEPT. An immunosuppressant drug but trialed with, on PSC. They might be looking into that again but in some big scale, controlled study. And there probably is a big number of similar drugs to be assessed and tried. My best wishes to your dad. I hope that there would be a more positive and uplifting news than this one. Take care. Subject: Re: URSO study stopped-met with Dr. Lindor today To: Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 2:03 AM My Dad had his yearly appointment at Mayo Clinic with Dr. Lindor. My Dad has been taking the URSO medicine since around 1996-97 with his PSC diagnosis in 1996. Dr. Lindor explained, that the study has shown that URSO has caused very negative effects to the liver and that is why the study has been discontinued. My Dad is devastated by this news. Dr. Lindor seemed very concerned & down cast and didn't have much to say aside from the discontinued study and why. Does anyone have anything positive that I can share with my Dad? Does anyone know specifically what URSO does to the liver to cause this negative effect? What does it do to the liver? He had so much hope in this medicine. His liver tests always came back only slightly elevated each year but I guess the liver test results can come back good but the URSO can still be causing serious liver damage and/or progress the disease faster. Anything I can share with my Dad would be appreciated. Does anyone know of any other studies that will be starting or talk of ones? If anyone is still taking URSO, (STOP). Thanks a lot. Lori A. " Aggressively Pursuing Solutions To Your Real Estate Needs! " First Weber Group Cell: 1507 E. Sunset Drive Waukesha, WI 53189 LoriUSA@ Yahoo.com www.Lori.FirstWeber .com E-mail to the NIH The following is the e-mail i received back from the NIH. I hope everyone is following Dr. Lindor's advice to contact the NIH to support funding of research on PSC. The more e-mails the better. I hope this finds everyone well! take care, Ross Heil Dear Ross, Thank you for taking the time to write to me and to share your personal story. I know it must be difficult to be diagnosed with PSC and UC but it looks like you are channeling your energies in the right direction. We, too, hope that you will complete your studies and go on to research PSC. We can use all of the help that we can muster in studying this disease! I am sure that you are disappointed that Dr. Lindor's high dose URSO study ended the way it did. But as you know, even " negative " studies have some positive results. Dr. Lindor and his colleagues did an excellent job of very carefully conducting this clinical trial and they have collected a wealth of data that will be used beyond answering the question about URSO. While it wasn't the result that we all wanted, it does answer an important question: dose high dose URSO benefit patients with PSC? Now that we think we know the answer, those patients taking high dose URSO can stop - why take an expensive drug that doesn't appear to be of benefit? It also is an opportunity for clinicians and researchers to look for new/other therapies other than URSO. We at NIDDK share your desire to advance the science for PSC. Unfortunately, we are limited by rules that govern how we distribute funds that are appropriated to us by congress. Decisions about redirecting funds from one project to another are not a simple task and may not be permissible because of federal regulations current laws. But, please be assured that we at NIDDK will do everything we can to work with Dr. Lindor to channel the funds allocated for his present study into advancing the science of PSC. I have taken the liberty of including Dr. Lindor on this email - I hope you don't mind. Dr. Lindor and I have been colleagues for a long time and share your concerns and passion for finding new treatments for PSC and other serious liver diseases. He can actually give you more advice than I am allowed to give on how to make PSC a national priority and thus, find new funds and advance the science of finding new treatments for PSC. Best regards, Pat R. Robuck, Ph.D., M.P.H. 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