Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hi , > Another long shot for you. > Is it possible that kidney stress could be causing painful leg > muscles? without noticing lower back pain? Yes, that is the most likely possibity in my opinon. The Kidney cleanse can remove such pains. This information is off-topic and not part of the Cutler Protocol: Dr Hulda 'blames' cadmium (eroded galvanized pipes, cigarettes) and thallium ( cotton swabs and balls, floss, toothpicks, napkins, bandages and tampons) when there is leg pain in adults. She says cadmium causes blood vessels to start spasming. She says extremely painful legs are due to thallium poisoning more than any other cause. Most commonly thallium comes from amalgams and deranged mineral tranport interferes with thallium removal. She suggests you do the kidney cleanse, chelate, repair plumbing, take 5g vitamin C for a month, magnesium (lots); reduce phosphate intake, do a liver flush (not recommended by Andy Cutler for mercury toxic poeple) and zap. > Which vertebrae would lead to the muscles in the front of the thigh? L2 and L3. Sometimes it is lymph blockaged causing leg pain. Stones in the liver can cause this by interferring with bile flow. I would not attept a liver flush based on your history. > Is it possible that a weak spine in that area could lead to painful > thigh muscles? Yes. More common is spasm in the hip flexors (psoas). A good physio that has done visceral release (Barrel and Upledger Institutes trained) and CranioSacral may be able to help. Often the nerves are getting caught up in tight organs. The organs have ligamented and fascia that get 'stuck' and need gentel releases. It is verf effective. Cleaning the kidneys helps the psoas spasm and there are no conflicts with Andy's protocol with the kidney ingredients. Acupunture or dry needling may help too. > (without the shooting pain down the legs that we usually think of being > associated with low back problems). Yes. What is the quality of pain? Does it go past your knee? When is it there? What makes it worse and better? How long have you had it? Thanks, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hi , > Another long shot for you. > Is it possible that kidney stress could be causing painful leg > muscles? without noticing lower back pain? Yes, that is the most likely possibity in my opinon. The Kidney cleanse can remove such pains. This information is off-topic and not part of the Cutler Protocol: Dr Hulda 'blames' cadmium (eroded galvanized pipes, cigarettes) and thallium ( cotton swabs and balls, floss, toothpicks, napkins, bandages and tampons) when there is leg pain in adults. She says cadmium causes blood vessels to start spasming. She says extremely painful legs are due to thallium poisoning more than any other cause. Most commonly thallium comes from amalgams and deranged mineral tranport interferes with thallium removal. She suggests you do the kidney cleanse, chelate, repair plumbing, take 5g vitamin C for a month, magnesium (lots); reduce phosphate intake, do a liver flush (not recommended by Andy Cutler for mercury toxic poeple) and zap. > Which vertebrae would lead to the muscles in the front of the thigh? L2 and L3. Sometimes it is lymph blockaged causing leg pain. Stones in the liver can cause this by interferring with bile flow. I would not attept a liver flush based on your history. > Is it possible that a weak spine in that area could lead to painful > thigh muscles? Yes. More common is spasm in the hip flexors (psoas). A good physio that has done visceral release (Barrel and Upledger Institutes trained) and CranioSacral may be able to help. Often the nerves are getting caught up in tight organs. The organs have ligamented and fascia that get 'stuck' and need gentel releases. It is verf effective. Cleaning the kidneys helps the psoas spasm and there are no conflicts with Andy's protocol with the kidney ingredients. Acupunture or dry needling may help too. > (without the shooting pain down the legs that we usually think of being > associated with low back problems). Yes. What is the quality of pain? Does it go past your knee? When is it there? What makes it worse and better? How long have you had it? Thanks, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hi , > Another long shot for you. > Is it possible that kidney stress could be causing painful leg > muscles? without noticing lower back pain? Yes, that is the most likely possibity in my opinon. The Kidney cleanse can remove such pains. This information is off-topic and not part of the Cutler Protocol: Dr Hulda 'blames' cadmium (eroded galvanized pipes, cigarettes) and thallium ( cotton swabs and balls, floss, toothpicks, napkins, bandages and tampons) when there is leg pain in adults. She says cadmium causes blood vessels to start spasming. She says extremely painful legs are due to thallium poisoning more than any other cause. Most commonly thallium comes from amalgams and deranged mineral tranport interferes with thallium removal. She suggests you do the kidney cleanse, chelate, repair plumbing, take 5g vitamin C for a month, magnesium (lots); reduce phosphate intake, do a liver flush (not recommended by Andy Cutler for mercury toxic poeple) and zap. > Which vertebrae would lead to the muscles in the front of the thigh? L2 and L3. Sometimes it is lymph blockaged causing leg pain. Stones in the liver can cause this by interferring with bile flow. I would not attept a liver flush based on your history. > Is it possible that a weak spine in that area could lead to painful > thigh muscles? Yes. More common is spasm in the hip flexors (psoas). A good physio that has done visceral release (Barrel and Upledger Institutes trained) and CranioSacral may be able to help. Often the nerves are getting caught up in tight organs. The organs have ligamented and fascia that get 'stuck' and need gentel releases. It is verf effective. Cleaning the kidneys helps the psoas spasm and there are no conflicts with Andy's protocol with the kidney ingredients. Acupunture or dry needling may help too. > (without the shooting pain down the legs that we usually think of being > associated with low back problems). Yes. What is the quality of pain? Does it go past your knee? When is it there? What makes it worse and better? How long have you had it? Thanks, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hi. Magnesium might do the trick for you. Shortly after my ordeal began, my legs got so tight and painful, walking became difficult and bending over became next to impossible. I've found using mag oil or taking baths in magnesium chloride to completely take care of this. also, doing stretches. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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