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I have been having trouble with Crohn's but that is usually restricted to the

colon. I guess I will see what my doc says. Thanks.

>>> " Chaim Boermeester " cboer@...> 6/2/2008 10:00 AM >>>

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I had nausea/vomiting episodes, but my LFTs were lousy at that time. After

stent placement and ERCP my LFTs went down, and I have never experienced it

again (touch wood).

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I have been having trouble with Crohn's but that is usually restricted to the

colon. I guess I will see what my doc says. Thanks.

>>> " Chaim Boermeester " cboer@...> 6/2/2008 10:00 AM >>>

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I had nausea/vomiting episodes, but my LFTs were lousy at that time. After

stent placement and ERCP my LFTs went down, and I have never experienced it

again (touch wood).

Regards,

Chaim Boermeester, Israel

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I had nausea/vomiting episodes, but my

LFTs were lousy at that time. After stent placement and ERCP my LFTs went down,

and I have never experienced it again (touch wood).

Regards,

Chaim Boermeester, Israel

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I had nausea/vomiting episodes, but my

LFTs were lousy at that time. After stent placement and ERCP my LFTs went down,

and I have never experienced it again (touch wood).

Regards,

Chaim Boermeester, Israel

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My LFT's are also great, but I often suffer from lack of appetite, nausea & sometimes vomiting. Theoretically, nausea & vomiting are not part of PSC, however nausea & vomiting DO accompany other liver illnesses such as hepatitis, so as far as I'm concerned, the nausea & lack of appetite ARE related to PSC.I use compazine (a prescription) for the nausea. But compazine can contribute to fatigue, so I try to use it very sparingly.I do get regurgitation in my mouth sometimes, but usually I don't vomit too often. But the nausea is a big concern. I'm on prednisone, and if I can't take it, or if I vomit up the medicine, I have to go to the ER to get the medicine intravenously.Marie

I have noticed that nausea and vomiting are happening more and more often. My LFT's are great. Would this be related to the PSC? I have nausea that comes out of nowhere. The nausea happens much more often than the vomiting but I never know the vomiting is coming. I can feel great and within minutes I am throwing up..

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How do you use the compazine (just when it hits or on a daily basis)? This hits

and is gone so fast that I didn't think that it would help to have a

prescription. The only time it last for any length of time is when the vomiting

starts.

>>> " Marie Nilsson " marie_nilsson17@...> 6/2/2008 11:33 AM >>>

My LFT's are also great, but I often suffer from lack of appetite, nausea &

sometimes vomiting. Theoretically, nausea & vomiting are not part of PSC,

however nausea & vomiting DO accompany other liver illnesses such as hepatitis,

so as far as I'm concerned, the nausea & lack of appetite ARE related to PSC.

I use compazine (a prescription) for the nausea. But compazine can contribute to

fatigue, so I try to use it very sparingly.

I do get regurgitation in my mouth sometimes, but usually I don't vomit too

often. But the nausea is a big concern. I'm on prednisone, and if I can't take

it, or if I vomit up the medicine, I have to go to the ER to get the medicine

intravenously.

Marie

I have noticed that nausea and vomiting are happening more and more often. My

LFT's are great. Would this be related to the PSC? I have nausea that comes

out of nowhere. The nausea happens much more often than the vomiting but I

never know the vomiting is coming. I can feel great and within minutes I am

throwing up.

..

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> ..... Theoretically, nausea & vomiting are not part of PSC, ....

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I must say that startled me a bit! It's extremely rare that I don't have some

level of

nausea. Several years ago, when it first began to be so constant, I asked my GI

about it

and he hesitated to prescribe anything at that point because he said I would

need it much

more later one and he didn't want my body to get so accustomed to the drugs now

because it would then take very large doses when I need it more and when the

liver can

handle it even less.

Since the nausea was really quite mild at that point -- just nearly constant --

I agreed and

found other ways to ease the queasies! There are sea-sick wristbands

(accupressure) that

helped me some. Also I found that nibbling all day was far better than eating 3

large

meals. My nausea is worst when my stomach is very empty or very full.

It's my understanding that some of the nausea is caused (at least in my case) by

the

enlarged spleen pressing against the stomach.

Nowadays, I keep phenergan on hand but don't use it unless I absolutely have to.

Regards,

Carolyn B. in SC

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I have some of those bands around somewhere from my trip to Key West. I think

my fear is that the PSC is finally starting to get worse. I have only

recently starting having the RUQ pain that goes up into your shoulder blade. I

have really been symptom free for 7 years. That is so much better than so many

others, that I should be grateful for the time rather than being a little scared

over it. :)

>>> " Carolyn B. " verviersbe@...> 6/2/2008 12:25 PM >>>

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> ..... Theoretically, nausea & vomiting are not part of PSC, ....

==================================

I must say that startled me a bit! It's extremely rare that I don't have some

level of

nausea. Several years ago, when it first began to be so constant, I asked my GI

about it

and he hesitated to prescribe anything at that point because he said I would

need it much

more later one and he didn't want my body to get so accustomed to the drugs now

because it would then take very large doses when I need it more and when the

liver can

handle it even less.

Since the nausea was really quite mild at that point -- just nearly constant --

I agreed and

found other ways to ease the queasies! There are sea-sick wristbands

(accupressure) that

helped me some. Also I found that nibbling all day was far better than eating 3

large

meals. My nausea is worst when my stomach is very empty or very full.

It's my understanding that some of the nausea is caused (at least in my case) by

the

enlarged spleen pressing against the stomach.

Nowadays, I keep phenergan on hand but don't use it unless I absolutely have to.

Regards,

Carolyn B. in SC

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Marie Nilsson wrote:

> My LFT's are also great, but I often suffer from lack of appetite,

> nausea & sometimes vomiting. Theoretically, nausea & vomiting are not

> part of PSC

I think any liver disease can cause nausea. It certainly did for me.

That said, there are other things that can cause the nausea too. Your

mention that the nausea seemed to come and go quickly reminded me of an

experience I had a few years ago. I started developing nausea,

sometimes accompanied by vomiting, and like yours, it tended to come and

go quickly. After a few weeks of this I finally realized that I had

switched brands of multivitamin, and the nausea always happened about an

hour after I took the vitamin. I switched back to my old brand that the

problem was solved!

Now I doubt that's what's happening in your case, but you might try and

see if you can see any pattern in it and try to relate it to any

specific things you eat or activities or meds etc.

athan

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I know some other people have already answered this, but I thought I'd chime in.

I have severe nausea and vomiting/rumination (throwing up in my mouth). The

nausea/vomiting symptoms don't seem to be linked to any specific foods/smells

(although some can make it worse) or time of day. My docs have said it's not

usually related to PSC...but it seems to me a lot of us suffer with this for it

not to be related to PSC...perhaps a poll is in order? (Arne, I think you're

the king of the polls, right? What do you think?) :)

Sandi in VA

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This was one of my first signs that something was wrong and they told me now that I have GERDS. Never had a problem with this till PSC......I take pan....something or other 40 mgs in the morning and 40 mgs at night and this really stopped this......Does anyone have heavy feeling or pain in Liver area when you eat peanut butter? that really seems to get me and I LOVE it.....

CJ

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