Depression

[Guest guest]

Dear Irene,

This has been happening to me for years. I was diagnosed with panic

disorder some time ago. I would get really depressed and hopeless,

then feel a sense of impending doom. Sometimes it would manifest

itself physically, bad breathing, shaking, sweating, chest pain.

It's tough, cause sometimes you really believe the world is about to

come crashing down around you. Thanks for the twitching tip, by the

way:)

Shandi

> I seemed to have joined the depression that is going around.

Things will go

> fine for me and then a very sad feeling comes over me and I feel

like

> something awful is going to happen. This has just started

recently and I

> have never quite had depression like before. I cry and start to

worry about

> how to cope.

>

> I have been coping well so why these feeling are coming over me, I

don't

> know. It doesn't help that I have a kidney infection. I had to

call my

> doctor early this morning and the pain is not gone even though I

am on Cipro.

> I guess I won't get anthrax.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> Books may well be the only true magic

> Alice Hoffman.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Irene,

This has been happening to me for years. I was diagnosed with panic

disorder some time ago. I would get really depressed and hopeless,

then feel a sense of impending doom. Sometimes it would manifest

itself physically, bad breathing, shaking, sweating, chest pain.

It's tough, cause sometimes you really believe the world is about to

come crashing down around you. Thanks for the twitching tip, by the

way:)

Shandi

> I seemed to have joined the depression that is going around.

Things will go

> fine for me and then a very sad feeling comes over me and I feel

like

> something awful is going to happen. This has just started

recently and I

> have never quite had depression like before. I cry and start to

worry about

> how to cope.

>

> I have been coping well so why these feeling are coming over me, I

don't

> know. It doesn't help that I have a kidney infection. I had to

call my

> doctor early this morning and the pain is not gone even though I

am on Cipro.

> I guess I won't get anthrax.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> Books may well be the only true magic

> Alice Hoffman.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Irene,

This has been happening to me for years. I was diagnosed with panic

disorder some time ago. I would get really depressed and hopeless,

then feel a sense of impending doom. Sometimes it would manifest

itself physically, bad breathing, shaking, sweating, chest pain.

It's tough, cause sometimes you really believe the world is about to

come crashing down around you. Thanks for the twitching tip, by the

way:)

Shandi

> I seemed to have joined the depression that is going around.

Things will go

> fine for me and then a very sad feeling comes over me and I feel

like

> something awful is going to happen. This has just started

recently and I

> have never quite had depression like before. I cry and start to

worry about

> how to cope.

>

> I have been coping well so why these feeling are coming over me, I

don't

> know. It doesn't help that I have a kidney infection. I had to

call my

> doctor early this morning and the pain is not gone even though I

am on Cipro.

> I guess I won't get anthrax.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> Books may well be the only true magic

> Alice Hoffman.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Depression is normal...My Dr put me on Paxil 40mg..I use to be on 20mg for about 10yrs when I lost both my parents..About year ago I told her how I was feeling she increased it to 40mg and it has done wonder for me..Plus I started seeing a Mental health worker just to have someone to talk to..I know at Uof Mich hosp they have Mental Health that just work with the Liver before and after Transplant. I would rather seen them at the University if it wasn't so far for me... Plus dear I think you have a full plate from what you have gone thru lately.. We have all cried and felt sad...But you need to think positively it will get better... 1. see about taking anti depressive if one don't work try another kind... 2..talk to someone mental health person 3..there is so much different kind of help out there and don't take no for a answer I had to hunt and find what I need.. 4..you will get your smile back 5 don't give up Jeanne PSC U/C Hanley wrote: I know I am not alone, and this group has helped a lot but I am so depressed right now that all I can do is cry. As I previously mentioned the neighbors brother beat me up in Jan. In the beg. of march I started having seizures and now have had my

license revoked. I feel so sad and helpless. I got diagnosed a couple months ago and have had two bile duct infections, this feels like it is too early in the game for that. Does anyone have hopeful news they can share with me. Because I feel so hopeless. thank and God Bless you all. brandi Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

It is hard. I know because I have PSC and am getting on a transplant list. Here is some hopeful

stuff:

1. People survive and learn to adapt. I had a friend with siezures and after a year of medical adjustments was able to get his job back.

2. It has helped me to make a daily blessing list of people and things I am thankful for. I do this everyday. Sometimes they are very simple things like being able to walk. There were times I could not even do that.

3. I cry everyday, but I also remember to laugh. Life is like that.

Joe

-------------- Original message from Hanley : --------------

I know I am not alone, and this group has helped a lot but I am so depressed right now that all I can do is cry. As I previously mentioned the neighbors brother beat me up in Jan. In the beg. of march I started having seizures and now have had my license revoked. I feel so sad and helpless. I got diagnosed a couple months ago and have had two bile duct infections, this feels like it is too early in the game for that. Does anyone have hopeful news they can share with me. Because I feel so hopeless.

thank and God Bless you all.

brandi

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

It is hard. I know because I have PSC and am getting on a transplant list. Here is some hopeful

stuff:

1. People survive and learn to adapt. I had a friend with siezures and after a year of medical adjustments was able to get his job back.

2. It has helped me to make a daily blessing list of people and things I am thankful for. I do this everyday. Sometimes they are very simple things like being able to walk. There were times I could not even do that.

3. I cry everyday, but I also remember to laugh. Life is like that.

Joe

-------------- Original message from Hanley : --------------

I know I am not alone, and this group has helped a lot but I am so depressed right now that all I can do is cry. As I previously mentioned the neighbors brother beat me up in Jan. In the beg. of march I started having seizures and now have had my license revoked. I feel so sad and helpless. I got diagnosed a couple months ago and have had two bile duct infections, this feels like it is too early in the game for that. Does anyone have hopeful news they can share with me. Because I feel so hopeless.

thank and God Bless you all.

brandi

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

It is hard. I know because I have PSC and am getting on a transplant list. Here is some hopeful

stuff:

1. People survive and learn to adapt. I had a friend with siezures and after a year of medical adjustments was able to get his job back.

2. It has helped me to make a daily blessing list of people and things I am thankful for. I do this everyday. Sometimes they are very simple things like being able to walk. There were times I could not even do that.

3. I cry everyday, but I also remember to laugh. Life is like that.

Joe

-------------- Original message from Hanley : --------------

I know I am not alone, and this group has helped a lot but I am so depressed right now that all I can do is cry. As I previously mentioned the neighbors brother beat me up in Jan. In the beg. of march I started having seizures and now have had my license revoked. I feel so sad and helpless. I got diagnosed a couple months ago and have had two bile duct infections, this feels like it is too early in the game for that. Does anyone have hopeful news they can share with me. Because I feel so hopeless.

thank and God Bless you all.

brandi

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

[Guest guest]

,

Just going through this whole process is hard enough without having

the additional burden of the rest of the events in your life.

Jeanne is absolutely right. Sometimes you just need the help. I always

thought it was a cop-out to take anti-depressants, but I really had no

reason to even be concerned by it since I never had depression.

I saw what the medications did for my Grandmother after my Grandpa

passed away. She was great to be around again. Happy and smiling and

enjoying her life.

I also saw the effects of someone else near to me.

When I started to get sick, I have the superman attitude. I am going

to get through this no matter what on my own.

Within the last year it slowly built up. Before you know it, I was

miserable.

Counseling didn't help for me. I would rather talk to my wife about

what is going on.

The side pain and especially the pain pills which make the depression

even worse.

I tried Zoloft and felt great although I did have some manly side-

effects which made me feel even worse.

Then my GP switched me to Wellbutrin and slowly upped the dosage. Now

I am on 150 MG.

This may take a while to take effect. It took over a month (maybe

more) for me to start feeling better with the latter, but now I just

feel better all the way around.

How much do we really know about when we are feeling low mentally and

how it affects the rest of your body when it is already trying to

fight an infection or pass sludge or a stone?

It has helped my mindset of what I need to be ready for the next few

years and the eventual progression of PSC.

What do you have to loose? It really helped some of us right? It might

just help you too.

I wish you the best.

Have a great day! Try to think positive (I know corny), but it does

really help. I hope it works for you too.

in Minnesota

PSC 2006, Factor V Leiden

[Guest guest]

,

Just going through this whole process is hard enough without having

the additional burden of the rest of the events in your life.

Jeanne is absolutely right. Sometimes you just need the help. I always

thought it was a cop-out to take anti-depressants, but I really had no

reason to even be concerned by it since I never had depression.

I saw what the medications did for my Grandmother after my Grandpa

passed away. She was great to be around again. Happy and smiling and

enjoying her life.

I also saw the effects of someone else near to me.

When I started to get sick, I have the superman attitude. I am going

to get through this no matter what on my own.

Within the last year it slowly built up. Before you know it, I was

miserable.

Counseling didn't help for me. I would rather talk to my wife about

what is going on.

The side pain and especially the pain pills which make the depression

even worse.

I tried Zoloft and felt great although I did have some manly side-

effects which made me feel even worse.

Then my GP switched me to Wellbutrin and slowly upped the dosage. Now

I am on 150 MG.

This may take a while to take effect. It took over a month (maybe

more) for me to start feeling better with the latter, but now I just

feel better all the way around.

How much do we really know about when we are feeling low mentally and

how it affects the rest of your body when it is already trying to

fight an infection or pass sludge or a stone?

It has helped my mindset of what I need to be ready for the next few

years and the eventual progression of PSC.

What do you have to loose? It really helped some of us right? It might

just help you too.

I wish you the best.

Have a great day! Try to think positive (I know corny), but it does

really help. I hope it works for you too.

in Minnesota

PSC 2006, Factor V Leiden

[Guest guest]

,

Just going through this whole process is hard enough without having

the additional burden of the rest of the events in your life.

Jeanne is absolutely right. Sometimes you just need the help. I always

thought it was a cop-out to take anti-depressants, but I really had no

reason to even be concerned by it since I never had depression.

I saw what the medications did for my Grandmother after my Grandpa

passed away. She was great to be around again. Happy and smiling and

enjoying her life.

I also saw the effects of someone else near to me.

When I started to get sick, I have the superman attitude. I am going

to get through this no matter what on my own.

Within the last year it slowly built up. Before you know it, I was

miserable.

Counseling didn't help for me. I would rather talk to my wife about

what is going on.

The side pain and especially the pain pills which make the depression

even worse.

I tried Zoloft and felt great although I did have some manly side-

effects which made me feel even worse.

Then my GP switched me to Wellbutrin and slowly upped the dosage. Now

I am on 150 MG.

This may take a while to take effect. It took over a month (maybe

more) for me to start feeling better with the latter, but now I just

feel better all the way around.

How much do we really know about when we are feeling low mentally and

how it affects the rest of your body when it is already trying to

fight an infection or pass sludge or a stone?

It has helped my mindset of what I need to be ready for the next few

years and the eventual progression of PSC.

What do you have to loose? It really helped some of us right? It might

just help you too.

I wish you the best.

Have a great day! Try to think positive (I know corny), but it does

really help. I hope it works for you too.

in Minnesota

PSC 2006, Factor V Leiden

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I've been concerned for some time that I am depressed, and it seems

to be getting worse. While working on my list of questions for my

next hep appointment today, I found myself writing the following:

" I seem to have as many 'blue' and 'down in the dumps' days

as 'regular' days recently, if not more. I am constantly irritable

and have no patience, I'm bored with my life, I don't want to do

anything (even shop, read, or cook gourmet meals, some of my favorite

things), I want to be left alone, and I am constantly tired with zero

energy. I can barely force myself to do anything for school or work

(both things I usually thrive on), and I can't even start projects

that I've been wanting to do for a long time--everything seems like a

burden. Wiping down the counters seems like a burden, taking my

daughter outside to play seems like a burden. I don't want to play

with or care for my daughter, and I feel like I'm putting on a show

when I try to act happy with her. This has been going on for months

now, and just seems to be getting worse. Every once in awhile I have

a great day where I wake up and enjoy my coffee, get things done, and

I am motivated--these are my happy, Energizer Bunny days. They are

happening too infrequently, now; I am just plain unhappy, despite how

good I KNOW my life is. "

This is getting worse than I thought, reading back all of that

(today, as I write all this, it's a very bad day). Who do I see for

this? Do I call my hep first, wait to see him, or should I just get

in to see my local doc? I feel like this needs to be addressed NOW.

I am not suicidal, I don't feel like hurting myself or anyone else;

but I am too unhappy to continue this way, and I feel like I will go

mad with many more days like this.

I would very much like to hear what you all think--does this sound

like depression? Could it be directly related to the PSC (does liver

disease cause depression?)? What is safe to take with chronic liver

disease?

Thanks,

Genevieve

UC 1983, J-Pouch 1999, PSC 12/07

[Guest guest]

Genevieve, Wow, I feel like I could have written this post myself. It is EXCACTLY the way I have been feeling. I spoke with my G.I. Dr. Friday and he just had me get my Liver enzymes checked and when those came back better than they have been, he pretty much said to go see my Primary care Dr. which I have an appt. with in the morning. It has been getting so bad for me I can't even make it to work and then have tons of anxiety about missing work. I hope you find help with either your local Dr. or Hep. Keep us posted and hang in there you are not alone. Sands UC 2002, PSC 11/07Genevieve wrote: Hi everyone,I've been concerned for some time that I am depressed, and it seems to be getting worse. While working on my list of questions for my next hep appointment today, I found myself writing the following:"I seem to have as many 'blue' and 'down in the dumps' days as 'regular' days recently, if not more. I am constantly irritable and have no patience, I'm bored with my life, I don't want to do anything (even shop, read, or cook gourmet meals, some of my favorite things), I want to be left alone, and I am constantly tired with zero energy. I can barely force myself to do anything for school or work (both things I usually thrive on), and I can't even start projects that I've been wanting to do for a long time--everything

seems like a burden. Wiping down the counters seems like a burden, taking my daughter outside to play seems like a burden. I don't want to play with or care for my daughter, and I feel like I'm putting on a show when I try to act happy with her. This has been going on for months now, and just seems to be getting worse. Every once in awhile I have a great day where I wake up and enjoy my coffee, get things done, and I am motivated--these are my happy, Energizer Bunny days. They are happening too infrequently, now; I am just plain unhappy, despite how good I KNOW my life is."This is getting worse than I thought, reading back all of that (today, as I write all this, it's a very bad day). Who do I see for this? Do I call my hep first, wait to see him, or should I just get in to see my local doc? I feel like this needs to be addressed NOW. I am not suicidal, I don't feel like hurting myself or anyone else; but I am

too unhappy to continue this way, and I feel like I will go mad with many more days like this. I would very much like to hear what you all think--does this sound like depression? Could it be directly related to the PSC (does liver disease cause depression?)? What is safe to take with chronic liver disease?Thanks,GenevieveUC 1983, J-Pouch 1999, PSC 12/07

[Guest guest]

Dear Genevieve,

I haven't posted for like two years, but have also suffered from debilitating

depression. There were several things that have helped me. I can't take any

anti-depression drugs. I see a counselor who specially deals with chronic

illness and family dynamics. He recommended reading Man's Search for Meaning by

Victor l--which I was already familiar with. I've read it many times---I

love it! I also found the book Loving What Is by Byron . I cannot say

enough about how much this book has helped me. I have given a copy to all of my

children and all of my friends. It is powerful---I don't think there is a trial

in life that could not be helped by applying her teachings I also am helped

more than I can say by reading scriptures everyday. Prayer is also very helpful

for me. If scripture and prayer aren't your things, making a point of reading

inspirational material and thinking about it (quiet meditation), is very

beneficial. Recognize that depression is natural with any

chronic illness and it is NOT a character flaw. Make time for yourself everyday.

Engage as many of the senses as possible in a relaxing, pleasant, stress-free

occupation, i.e., soaking in a hot/cool tub, with essential oils or candles,

listening to your favorite music. I would find that nice. I love

massages---sometimes I treat myself to an hour of that. Good luck to you. Take

care, Cheryl in Idaho, PSC/AIH 00, UC 00, and a host of other medical problems.

-----Original message-----

> Hi everyone,

>

> I've been concerned for some time that I am depressed, and it seems

> to be getting worse.

>

>

> Thanks,

> Genevieve

> UC 1983, J-Pouch 1999, PSC 12/07

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I highly recommend the book Loving What Is by Byron . If you would like to

talk to me personally you can e-mail me privately at cswb@.... I have

a ton of personal experience with life's challenges outside of liver disease. In

fact, when I was dx in 2000 it was way down on my list of concerns. I could

fill several talk shows full of drama and trauma. In the spring of 01 I was

assaulted by a student at the HS where I taught (permanent shoulder and neck

injury) and by an angry woman from my personal life. I'd be willing to share

war stories if it would help you. Hope to hear from you, take care, Cheryl in ID

PSC/AIH, UC, etc.

>

> I know I am not alone, and this group has helped a lot but I am so depressed

right now that all I can do is cry. As I previously mentioned the neighbors

brother beat me up in Jan. In the beg. of march I started having seizures and

now have had my license revoked. I feel so sad and helpless. I got diagnosed a

couple months ago and have had two bile duct infections, this feels like it is

too early in the game for that. Does anyone have hopeful news they can share

with me. Because I feel so hopeless.

>

> thank and God Bless you all.

> brandi

>

>

> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

>

>