Re: @ judygirlii About those statins:

[Guest guest]

Yes, exactly--that's why I DON'T want to take ANY statins. Thanks.

Judy

> >How long did take to lower your CRP? Did it happen with

> >clearance? I don't want to take any statins.

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> Please read up about how statins are, essentially, of NO USE for women. You

risk bad side effects for NO benefit at all!

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> First: a REALLY good explanation of how to view the reports of medical study

results (e.g., use grain of salt, don't go by the conclusion but by the actual

result, adherer effect, placebo effect: really great article!):

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> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/more-statin-madness/

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> In the last paragraph in the quote above [from the study], the authors confess

that the data from actual randomized control trials show that statins confer no

all-cause mortality benefits to women of any age and to men over 69. They are

playing a little fast and loose with the truth here because as I have posted

before, the gold standard trials have shown no benefit for women and no benefit

to men over 65 or to men under 65 who have never had heart disease. The only

improvement in all-cause mortality has been in men under 65 who have been

diagnosed with heart disease, and even that benefit is so small that many people

question if the extra cost and side effects of the statins are worth it.

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> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/a-bad-week-for-statins/

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> As I reported in my post the only evidence that statins produce any decrease

in all-cause mortality is in men under the age of 65 who have established heart

disease. For women of all ages with and without heart disease and for men of all

ages without heart disease, these drugs don't bring about a decrease in

all-cause mortality.

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> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/statin-panic/

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> In women who are under 65 there is virtually no evidence that statins do

squat. In fact, the report doesn't even produce evidence that cholesterol

lowering does anything for women. The report states that it bases its rationale

for treatment of women on an extrapolation of data from men.

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> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/more-news-on-the-statin-front/

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> Last week the Wall Street Journal weighed in with a piece (requires paid

subscription) on the front page of their personal journal section describing the

negative effects statins often have on the brains and cognition of those taking

them.

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> Cognitive side effects like memory loss and fuzzy thinking aren't listed

on the patient information sheet for Lipitor, the popular cholesterol-lowering

drug. But some doctors are voicing concerns that in a small portion of patients,

statins like Lipitor may be helping hearts but hurting minds.

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> " This drug makes women stupid, " Orli Etingin, vice chairman of medicine at

New York Presbyterian Hospital, declared at a recent luncheon discussion

sponsored by Project A.L.S. to raise awareness of gender issues and the brain.

Dr. Etingin, who is also founder and director of the Iris Cantor Women's Health

Center in New York, told of a typical patient in her 40s, unable to concentrate

or recall words. Tests found nothing amiss, but when the woman stopped taking

Lipitor, the symptoms vanished. When she resumed taking Lipitor, they returned.

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> " I've seen this in maybe two dozen patients, " Dr. Etingin said later,

adding that they did better on other statins. " This is just observational, of

course. We really need more studies, particularly on cognitive effects and

women. "

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> It's not only in women. Astronaut and physician Dr. Duane Graveline has severe

memory and cognitive function problems when he started Lipitor. ...

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> Dr. Duane Graveline's site on statins: http://www.spacedoc.net/

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> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/anatomy-of-a-statin-ad/

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> Yes, but has this 16 years of research shown anything worthwhile? It has

shown that Lipitor and other statin drugs don't reduce all-cause mortality (the

statistic you should really care about) in women of any age, in men over 65 and

in men under 65 with no history of heart disease. Only in men under 65 who have

actually had a heart attack have statins shown any benefit in reducing all-cause

mortality. And even that is minimal. ... High cholesterol is a lab finding,

not a history of heart disease. In sum, the 16 years of Lipitor research have

been pretty fruitless.

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> Please add this in to any figuring about whether or not to take statins! (And

then please DON'T take statins!!)

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> Elenor

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