Re: New to list and question

[Guest guest]

At 05:10 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:

Is there somewhere on line a

printed general copy of the SCD guidelines? I can’t buy the book

and couldn’t find anything through google.

You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this

list.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 05:10 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:

Is there somewhere on line a

printed general copy of the SCD guidelines? I can’t buy the book

and couldn’t find anything through google.

You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this

list.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Is there a reason you cannot get the book? Otherwise go to www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infoSkyFrom: Ann Chase To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, 30 May, 2009 11:54:42 AMSubject: RE: New to list and question

I didn’t receive a list of the basics.  

From: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

[mailto:BTVC- SCD (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Wizop Marilyn L. Alm

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:54 PM

To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

Subject: Re: New to list and question

 

At 05:10 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:

Is there somewhere on line a printed general copy of the SCD

guidelines?  I can’t buy the book and couldn’t find anything through

google.

You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this list.

— Marilyn

    New Orleans,

Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

       

Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now..

[Guest guest]

Is there a reason you cannot get the book? Otherwise go to www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infoSkyFrom: Ann Chase To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, 30 May, 2009 11:54:42 AMSubject: RE: New to list and question

I didn’t receive a list of the basics.  

From: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

[mailto:BTVC- SCD (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Wizop Marilyn L. Alm

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:54 PM

To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

Subject: Re: New to list and question

 

At 05:10 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:

Is there somewhere on line a printed general copy of the SCD

guidelines?  I can’t buy the book and couldn’t find anything through

google.

You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this list.

— Marilyn

    New Orleans,

Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

       

Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now..

[Guest guest]

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:

I didn’t receive a list of the

basics.

It's in the Getting Started folder for this list.

Getting Started

© Marilyn L. Alm 2004

Note: If you wish you use part or all of the following article

elsewhere, it is respectfully requested that you provide a link back to

this file, and retain the copyright notice. I love to help. I hate people

who take credit for my work, or even just fail to give credit.

It’s downright

scary to completely rearrange the way you think about food, and what you

consider healthy – especially when what you’re asked to do seems to fly

in the face of what you’ve always been told. Whether you’ve been a

vegetarian, a consumer of the Standard American Diet (SAD), or even

someone who has tried, really tried to eat healthy, you’re going to be

making changes.

Making the

changes, giving up foods you may enjoy, or which are part of your

culture, isn’t easy. You may worry that people will think you are strange

for going on such a restrictive diet.

Especially

threatening is making all these changes if you are physically, mentally,

and emotionally fragile because of the condition of your health or that

of a loved one. You may have been told by a physician whose opinion you

respect that “Diet has nothing to do with Crohn’s, colitis, etc.” or “If

this doesn’t work, the only option is surgery.” You may not appear to

have physical symptoms of malabsorption, but the connection between the

brain and the bowel has been well documented, and is fully explained in

Chapter 7 of Breaking the Vicious Cycle. Malabsorption may also be

a major factor in both extreme underweight and extreme overweight.

When you receive

your copy of Breaking the Vicious Cycle, I recommend reading it

from cover to cover. If you’re not a heavy-duty reader like I am (I

finished my first read-through in under two hours), then set yourself ten

or fifteen minutes to read a couple of times a day. You might even

consider keeping your copy of BTVC by the toilet. If you are, like

many people who come to SCD, spending hours of time in the necessary,

well, why not use some of that time to learn how you’re going to stop

spending all that time there? And if you aren’t a person who spends hours

in the necessary each day, but are the spouse or parent of someone who

has this problem, make it a point to pick up the book and read any time

the person you’re assisting is dealing with a problem. Carry Breaking

the Vicious Cycle with you. If you have to stand in line at the

grocery store, read it then. Waiting at the doctor’s office? Read

BTVC instead of those tattered magazines. Waiting to pick the kids

up from school? Read while you wait.

In short, make

your new mantra not “I’m too sick” or “I don’t have time” but “Where

there’s a will, there’s a way.” This is part of what taking charge of

your own health is all about. Making changes that will ultimately give

you more time and more energy.

Yet you do not

have to wait until you have read Breaking the Vicious Cycle to

start the diet. Starting the diet is amazingly easy. Page 43 (61) of

BTVC gives the details, but the basics are:

· Any cereal grain is strictly

and absolutely forbidden. (BTVC p49 / 72), including, but not

limited to, wheat, corn, oats, rice, rye, millet, buckwheat, triticale,

etc. This means none in any form. Bread, cake, toast, macaroni, etc. etc.

is absolutely forbidden if made with grain.

· Carbohydrates (starches and

sugars) other than those found in fruits, honey, properly prepared

yogurt, and certain vegetables are also forbidden.

· Liquid milk is forbidden.

Milk must be properly fermented, as yogurt, or as cheese made with rennet

or other enzymes. Some people find even yogurt which has been fermented

for 24 hours difficult to digest, and do better with “dripped” or

“drained” yogurt, also called yogurt cheese. Small amounts of heavy

cream, treated with lactaid drops, and kept in the refrigerator for 24

hours after treatment may be used in coffee or tea.

· Most beans (legumes) are

forbidden. Dried white (navy) beans, lentils, split peas, and both dried

and fresh lima beans are permitted. (BTVC, p 53-54 / p 103) These

must be prepared according to the directions in the Gourmet Section of

BTVC: specifically, they must be soaked for at least eight hours,

drained (throw away the soak water), rinsed, and then cooked until tender

in fresh water. All legumes other than the ones mentioned above are

illegal. Illegal legumes include, but are not limited to chick peas, bean

sprouts, soybeans, mung beans, faba beans, garbanzo beans, and pinto

beans.

· Commercial canned, processed

vegetables are forbidden. They often have unlisted sugar or starch. Use

fresh, or fresh frozen. Be sure to peel and seed these at the beginning

of the diet. Canning your own vegetables, with no illegal additives, is

permitted.

· Most canned fruits are

illegal. Read labels carefully, and only use those packed in their own

juice with no added sweeteners. Fresh or fresh frozen are preferred.

Canning your own fruits, with no illegal additives, is permitted. In the

early stages of the diet, all fruits should be peeled, seeded, and

cooked.

· All sweeteners except

saccharin and filtered honey are forbidden. Be especially wary of any

products labeled “sugar-free” – even those without illegal aspartame will

often have mannitol and sorbitol, which are sugar alcohols. Products

containing these are allowed to call themselves “sugar free” because

alcohol sugars are indigestible by human beings. But the bad bugs in your

gut will have a marvelous time dining on them, and keep you

sick!

· Be aware that fruits and raw

vegetables have laxative qualities, so if active diarrhea is your reason

for coming to the SCD, these must be used with caution until normal

function resumes. These same raw fruits and vegetables can also cause

other forms of gastric upset, like gas, queasy stomach, etc. if you eat

them too early in the diet. Ironically, raw fruits and vegetables can

also cause problems at the other end of the spectrum. Constipation and

diarrhea are two ends of the same type of digestive disorder.

· Everyone is different. Cooked

carrots, as an example, are usually well tolerated by most people, one

reason they are included on the introductory diet. I, on the other hand,

didn’t tolerate carrots at all – they simply came through completely

undigested. Yet I could eat both cooked and raw broccoli and cauliflower

(both notorious for giving people trouble) with impunity. Even legal

foods can be a problem if you eat them too soon, or eat too much of

them.

· It has taken you quite a few

years to become ill; it may very well take months, or even years to heal

from all the damage that has been done to your system.

In any healing situation, it is often a case of two steps forward and one

step back. Don’t give up! You are giving your body the nutrition it

needs, and you have eliminated the foods which made you sick in the first

place.

Additional Resources include:

Elaine Gottschall’s authorized web site at

www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

which has additional information, pictorial how-tos, and an excellent

legal / illegal list.

The Pecan Bread web site at:

www.pecanbread.com

which is focused primarily on children and SCD. SCD is now a recognized

biomedical treatment for children with autism. Of particular help to new

SCDers is the chart at

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond

which gives lists of foods in the order which many people find it easiest

to introduce. Everyone is different, of course, and you may find you

tolerate some well-cooked stage 2 fruits or vegetables before you handle

the stage 1s.

Raman Prasad’s SCD Recipe web site and blog at

www.scdrecipe.com

Beth’s blog

http://bethsblog.typepad.com/bethsblog/2008/01/turtle-soup-pos.html

Dietary Adventures of Jilluck

http://scdadventures.blogspot.com/

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:

I didn’t receive a list of the

basics.

It's in the Getting Started folder for this list.

Getting Started

© Marilyn L. Alm 2004

Note: If you wish you use part or all of the following article

elsewhere, it is respectfully requested that you provide a link back to

this file, and retain the copyright notice. I love to help. I hate people

who take credit for my work, or even just fail to give credit.

It’s downright

scary to completely rearrange the way you think about food, and what you

consider healthy – especially when what you’re asked to do seems to fly

in the face of what you’ve always been told. Whether you’ve been a

vegetarian, a consumer of the Standard American Diet (SAD), or even

someone who has tried, really tried to eat healthy, you’re going to be

making changes.

Making the

changes, giving up foods you may enjoy, or which are part of your

culture, isn’t easy. You may worry that people will think you are strange

for going on such a restrictive diet.

Especially

threatening is making all these changes if you are physically, mentally,

and emotionally fragile because of the condition of your health or that

of a loved one. You may have been told by a physician whose opinion you

respect that “Diet has nothing to do with Crohn’s, colitis, etc.” or “If

this doesn’t work, the only option is surgery.” You may not appear to

have physical symptoms of malabsorption, but the connection between the

brain and the bowel has been well documented, and is fully explained in

Chapter 7 of Breaking the Vicious Cycle. Malabsorption may also be

a major factor in both extreme underweight and extreme overweight.

When you receive

your copy of Breaking the Vicious Cycle, I recommend reading it

from cover to cover. If you’re not a heavy-duty reader like I am (I

finished my first read-through in under two hours), then set yourself ten

or fifteen minutes to read a couple of times a day. You might even

consider keeping your copy of BTVC by the toilet. If you are, like

many people who come to SCD, spending hours of time in the necessary,

well, why not use some of that time to learn how you’re going to stop

spending all that time there? And if you aren’t a person who spends hours

in the necessary each day, but are the spouse or parent of someone who

has this problem, make it a point to pick up the book and read any time

the person you’re assisting is dealing with a problem. Carry Breaking

the Vicious Cycle with you. If you have to stand in line at the

grocery store, read it then. Waiting at the doctor’s office? Read

BTVC instead of those tattered magazines. Waiting to pick the kids

up from school? Read while you wait.

In short, make

your new mantra not “I’m too sick” or “I don’t have time” but “Where

there’s a will, there’s a way.” This is part of what taking charge of

your own health is all about. Making changes that will ultimately give

you more time and more energy.

Yet you do not

have to wait until you have read Breaking the Vicious Cycle to

start the diet. Starting the diet is amazingly easy. Page 43 (61) of

BTVC gives the details, but the basics are:

· Any cereal grain is strictly

and absolutely forbidden. (BTVC p49 / 72), including, but not

limited to, wheat, corn, oats, rice, rye, millet, buckwheat, triticale,

etc. This means none in any form. Bread, cake, toast, macaroni, etc. etc.

is absolutely forbidden if made with grain.

· Carbohydrates (starches and

sugars) other than those found in fruits, honey, properly prepared

yogurt, and certain vegetables are also forbidden.

· Liquid milk is forbidden.

Milk must be properly fermented, as yogurt, or as cheese made with rennet

or other enzymes. Some people find even yogurt which has been fermented

for 24 hours difficult to digest, and do better with “dripped” or

“drained” yogurt, also called yogurt cheese. Small amounts of heavy

cream, treated with lactaid drops, and kept in the refrigerator for 24

hours after treatment may be used in coffee or tea.

· Most beans (legumes) are

forbidden. Dried white (navy) beans, lentils, split peas, and both dried

and fresh lima beans are permitted. (BTVC, p 53-54 / p 103) These

must be prepared according to the directions in the Gourmet Section of

BTVC: specifically, they must be soaked for at least eight hours,

drained (throw away the soak water), rinsed, and then cooked until tender

in fresh water. All legumes other than the ones mentioned above are

illegal. Illegal legumes include, but are not limited to chick peas, bean

sprouts, soybeans, mung beans, faba beans, garbanzo beans, and pinto

beans.

· Commercial canned, processed

vegetables are forbidden. They often have unlisted sugar or starch. Use

fresh, or fresh frozen. Be sure to peel and seed these at the beginning

of the diet. Canning your own vegetables, with no illegal additives, is

permitted.

· Most canned fruits are

illegal. Read labels carefully, and only use those packed in their own

juice with no added sweeteners. Fresh or fresh frozen are preferred.

Canning your own fruits, with no illegal additives, is permitted. In the

early stages of the diet, all fruits should be peeled, seeded, and

cooked.

· All sweeteners except

saccharin and filtered honey are forbidden. Be especially wary of any

products labeled “sugar-free” – even those without illegal aspartame will

often have mannitol and sorbitol, which are sugar alcohols. Products

containing these are allowed to call themselves “sugar free” because

alcohol sugars are indigestible by human beings. But the bad bugs in your

gut will have a marvelous time dining on them, and keep you

sick!

· Be aware that fruits and raw

vegetables have laxative qualities, so if active diarrhea is your reason

for coming to the SCD, these must be used with caution until normal

function resumes. These same raw fruits and vegetables can also cause

other forms of gastric upset, like gas, queasy stomach, etc. if you eat

them too early in the diet. Ironically, raw fruits and vegetables can

also cause problems at the other end of the spectrum. Constipation and

diarrhea are two ends of the same type of digestive disorder.

· Everyone is different. Cooked

carrots, as an example, are usually well tolerated by most people, one

reason they are included on the introductory diet. I, on the other hand,

didn’t tolerate carrots at all – they simply came through completely

undigested. Yet I could eat both cooked and raw broccoli and cauliflower

(both notorious for giving people trouble) with impunity. Even legal

foods can be a problem if you eat them too soon, or eat too much of

them.

· It has taken you quite a few

years to become ill; it may very well take months, or even years to heal

from all the damage that has been done to your system.

In any healing situation, it is often a case of two steps forward and one

step back. Don’t give up! You are giving your body the nutrition it

needs, and you have eliminated the foods which made you sick in the first

place.

Additional Resources include:

Elaine Gottschall’s authorized web site at

www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

which has additional information, pictorial how-tos, and an excellent

legal / illegal list.

The Pecan Bread web site at:

www.pecanbread.com

which is focused primarily on children and SCD. SCD is now a recognized

biomedical treatment for children with autism. Of particular help to new

SCDers is the chart at

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond

which gives lists of foods in the order which many people find it easiest

to introduce. Everyone is different, of course, and you may find you

tolerate some well-cooked stage 2 fruits or vegetables before you handle

the stage 1s.

Raman Prasad’s SCD Recipe web site and blog at

www.scdrecipe.com

Beth’s blog

http://bethsblog.typepad.com/bethsblog/2008/01/turtle-soup-pos.html

Dietary Adventures of Jilluck

http://scdadventures.blogspot.com/

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Me neither.AlyssaI didn’t receive a list of the basics. From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Wizop Marilyn L. AlmSent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:54 PMTo: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: New to list and question At 05:10 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:Is there somewhere on line a printed general copy of the SCD guidelines? I can’t buy the book and couldn’t find anything through google.You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this list.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Me neither.AlyssaI didn’t receive a list of the basics. From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Wizop Marilyn L. AlmSent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:54 PMTo: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: New to list and question At 05:10 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote:Is there somewhere on line a printed general copy of the SCD guidelines? I can’t buy the book and couldn’t find anything through google.You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this list.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

I don't think you get it automatically - I never did -just looked it up now -

thanks

eileen 16 months scd

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> > Is there somewhere on line a printed general copy of the SCD

> > guidelines? I can't buy the book and couldn't find anything through

> > google.

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> > You should have received a list of the basics when you joined this

> > list.

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> > — Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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