First round chelation problems, question, - 10 yr son with ?Lyme & taking abx

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Attempted first round of chelation for 10 year old son with probable

Hg (and potential Lyme disease) last weekend.

Did 25 mg of DMSA only every 4 hours for my 95 lb'er.

Started at the 6 PM Friday dose, but discontinued at the Sunday

morning 2 AM dose because after 1 full day of feeling ok, by Sat

evening he was becoming nauseated and generally feeling bad.

Panicked and stopped because I was worried about this new combination

of medicines in his sensitive system - since he is also taking abx for

Lyme (biaxin, a sulfa, and flagyl every 2 weeks).

As per the protocol, I stopped completely.

I am supplementing him with supportive vits, minerals, probiotics as

best I can. These in themselves can also be hard on the stomach.

I plan to try again next weekend with half the dose, 12.5 mg DMSA.

Question: was the nausea likely due to my dosage, dosage period --

note that it did not coincide with taking the pills directly.

He has been taking supplements for a while, so it was not as if there

were a lot of new introductions in his diet.

Also, he is extremely fatigued and just not feeling well as of

yesterday, Monday.

Comments or advice? It is so very hard to differentiate when there

are adverse reactions, considering the number of variables.

Thanks for your support,

Deb

[Guest guest]

>

> Attempted first round of chelation for 10 year old son with probable

> Hg (and potential Lyme disease) last weekend.

TK--- History ? Hair analysis ? amalgams ? How long treating Lyme ?

>

> Did 25 mg of DMSA only every 4 hours for my 95 lb'er.

TK--- too high a dose to start with all that you are doing.

>

> Started at the 6 PM Friday dose, but discontinued at the Sunday

> morning 2 AM dose because after 1 full day of feeling ok, by Sat

> evening he was becoming nauseated and generally feeling bad.

>

> Panicked and stopped because I was worried about this new

combination

> of medicines in his sensitive system - since he is also taking abx

for

> Lyme (biaxin, a sulfa, and flagyl every 2 weeks).

>

> As per the protocol, I stopped completely.

TK--- You did the right thing. Not sure you can use the sulfa drugs

with the chelators, have to look it up - you may want to post to

- TheSkyKing@... who is the owner here and had Lyme, Andy

and the Autism list which works with children.

>

> I am supplementing him with supportive vits, minerals, probiotics as

> best I can. These in themselves can also be hard on the stomach.

>

> I plan to try again next weekend with half the dose, 12.5 mg DMSA.

TK--- or less possibly to begin with everything else you are doing ?

I would like to see a hair analysis and some history, amalgam removal

etc.

>

> Question: was the nausea likely due to my dosage, dosage period --

> note that it did not coincide with taking the pills directly.

TK--- dosage, abx, lyme

>

> He has been taking supplements for a while, so it was not as if

there

> were a lot of new introductions in his diet.

>

> Also, he is extremely fatigued and just not feeling well as of

> yesterday, Monday.

TK-- chelation, dmsa can do this especially if dose is too high.

>

> Comments or advice? It is so very hard to differentiate when there

> are adverse reactions, considering the number of variables.

>

> Thanks for your support,

>

> Deb

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Attempted first round of chelation for 10 year old son with probable

> Hg (and potential Lyme disease) last weekend.

TK--- History ? Hair analysis ? amalgams ? How long treating Lyme ?

>

> Did 25 mg of DMSA only every 4 hours for my 95 lb'er.

TK--- too high a dose to start with all that you are doing.

>

> Started at the 6 PM Friday dose, but discontinued at the Sunday

> morning 2 AM dose because after 1 full day of feeling ok, by Sat

> evening he was becoming nauseated and generally feeling bad.

>

> Panicked and stopped because I was worried about this new

combination

> of medicines in his sensitive system - since he is also taking abx

for

> Lyme (biaxin, a sulfa, and flagyl every 2 weeks).

>

> As per the protocol, I stopped completely.

TK--- You did the right thing. Not sure you can use the sulfa drugs

with the chelators, have to look it up - you may want to post to

- TheSkyKing@... who is the owner here and had Lyme, Andy

and the Autism list which works with children.

>

> I am supplementing him with supportive vits, minerals, probiotics as

> best I can. These in themselves can also be hard on the stomach.

>

> I plan to try again next weekend with half the dose, 12.5 mg DMSA.

TK--- or less possibly to begin with everything else you are doing ?

I would like to see a hair analysis and some history, amalgam removal

etc.

>

> Question: was the nausea likely due to my dosage, dosage period --

> note that it did not coincide with taking the pills directly.

TK--- dosage, abx, lyme

>

> He has been taking supplements for a while, so it was not as if

there

> were a lot of new introductions in his diet.

>

> Also, he is extremely fatigued and just not feeling well as of

> yesterday, Monday.

TK-- chelation, dmsa can do this especially if dose is too high.

>

> Comments or advice? It is so very hard to differentiate when there

> are adverse reactions, considering the number of variables.

>

> Thanks for your support,

>

> Deb

>

[Guest guest]

i have both lyme and Hg poisoning. i was on antibiotics and took

chelators at the same time without problems (although that much DMSA

would have made me feel pretty bad when i started also). i don't

recommend antibiotics for lyme disease. they're good if your kid

hasn't had lyme for more than a few weeks. other than that you

aren't going to do him any good and will kill a lot of his good

intestinal flora (so it's good you're giving him probiotics) and

prolong the duration of the lyme disease (if he has it) and make his

and i'm sure your life that much harder. a very good resource is the

lyme book from www.lymebook.com. somebody mentioned

emailing " bryan " . he is the author. i'm sure it would be good to

email him.

i would guess that the nausea was from the dmsa, but die-off from

lyme can also build up over time and cause nausea at random points

too, so i don't know.

larry

>

> Attempted first round of chelation for 10 year old son with probable

> Hg (and potential Lyme disease) last weekend.

>

> Did 25 mg of DMSA only every 4 hours for my 95 lb'er.

>

> Started at the 6 PM Friday dose, but discontinued at the Sunday

> morning 2 AM dose because after 1 full day of feeling ok, by Sat

> evening he was becoming nauseated and generally feeling bad.

>

> Panicked and stopped because I was worried about this new

combination

> of medicines in his sensitive system - since he is also taking abx

for

> Lyme (biaxin, a sulfa, and flagyl every 2 weeks).

>

> As per the protocol, I stopped completely.

>

> I am supplementing him with supportive vits, minerals, probiotics as

> best I can. These in themselves can also be hard on the stomach.

>

> I plan to try again next weekend with half the dose, 12.5 mg DMSA.

>

> Question: was the nausea likely due to my dosage, dosage period --

> note that it did not coincide with taking the pills directly.

>

> He has been taking supplements for a while, so it was not as if

there

> were a lot of new introductions in his diet.

>

> Also, he is extremely fatigued and just not feeling well as of

> yesterday, Monday.

>

> Comments or advice? It is so very hard to differentiate when there

> are adverse reactions, considering the number of variables.

>

> Thanks for your support,

>

> Deb

>