O/T bowel cleanse, was Re: progress update and disturbing symptoms

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Esther, since your story sounds so familiar to things I've

experienced, I'll share some of my thoughts & experiences.

Several practitioners commented over the years, before starting

chelation, about my 'congested' liver. No amount of detox seemed to

bring it down much (it actually 'bulged' out from my ribs while

standing). When I added low levels of ALA, to which I'm terribly

sensitive, to my DMSA chelation rounds, things started to loosen up

very quickly, and lots of swelling & inflammation set in with my

stomache & upper portion of the small intestine. I wasn't a

stranger to a lot of gassiness, indigestion, and bloating in this

area...it had been a problem for a couple decades. Gallbladder

tests didn't show any problems, but I suspected ALA had been

releasing stones and/or bacterial organisms via bile into my GI

tract, leading to a very severe bout of inflammation.

I stopped chelating for 6-8 weeks to allow for healing, and rather

than turn to anything harsh, chose to try a bowel cleanse that

utilizes lots of tumeric, fennel, and other things over the course

of a few days to kill off various infectious bacterial organisms.

My instincts were apparently correct (and my doctor looked at me

like I was nuts when I suggested I thought maybe it was something

bacterial), because the cleanse cleared the problem completely. My

liver congestion went way down and I'm strangely free of any type of

indigestion. I did the cleanse in early May. Many people suggest

the digestive problems are candida/fungal. I've dealt with plenty

of that and must remain on guard for it, but for what had lingered

with me, a focus on candida no longer made sense. After rapidly

losing about 5 pounds while doing the actual cleanse, I've continued

to slowly lose a few more pounds, am digesting fats (!) and don't

seem to have the need for digestive enzymes that I had previously.

I believe ALA has some very powerful action in the liver, which is a

good reason to take it in very low doses starting out. Not only was

it helping my liver release toxins, I expect it opened up some

channels in my liver that allowed it to purge some very old & well

established bacteria.

Like you, I avoid sugar and all the other processed white flours,

etc. My diet is mostly organic vegetables, meats, gluten-free

grains, vegetarian dishes, berries and a few other fruits, and fats

are typically limited to high quality olive, grapeseed, cocoanut &

safflower/sunflower oils. Wheat, dairy, yeast, and nuts are all

indigestible for me and I'm certain they always had been.

If you are interested in the bowel cleanse, I found it in a book by

Hulda called 'The Cure for All Diseases'. Some of the

information there is a nice companion to the intense mercury detox

info Andy provides, especially if you are trying to get to the

source of your symptoms.

Joanne

>

> Hello all - new to this board but have been on the adult metal

> chelation for a while.

>

> following andy's protocol while also doing DR ST Amand's

guaifenesin

> protocol for fibromyalgia.

>

> i've been fibro for many years and managing fine on a low carb

diet

> and the guaifensin protocol - was energatic, slim, i competed in

> dancing and went to school and was also an actor. but about a two

> and a half years ago i was living in a mercury contaminated house

and

> basically fell apart. my mother convinced my to look into mercury

> poisoning and sent me Andy's book. when i first realized i had

> mercury these were my symptoms

>

> tingling numbness in face and hands

> horrible pain in feet

> pain in shins

> rapid weight gain

> drooling

> anxiety attacks-

> obsessive thinking

> inability to make decisions

> fear of crowds or fast moving objects

> anti-social, withdrawal

> puffiness all over mainly in legs and feet

> digestive issues - whole food coming through bowel

> yeast in gut

> wierd sweating - i never really sweat my whole life

> achey but sharp pain in side of back above hips - thought it might

be

> kidney - but don't know

> pain, muscle tensness - especially in neck and back

> bad sleep

> lack of motivation, ability to complete tasks

>

> I am much better now - most pain is gone. my thryoid isn't

working

> and i struggle day to day to figure out what it needs (i have to

take

> a huge amount of thyroid med to get an effect - but i sem to be

hyper

> and hypo at the same time sometimes - tried T3 therapy - seems to

> help for a little bit, then not). adrenals as well - but i am

doing

> better on a lower dose of HC and other pills so i think thats

getting

> better too. when chelating my eyesite go a little better esp at

> night. i have flare ups of yeast rarely now. digestion still an

> issue as are wierd thought patterns but i don't get the anxiety

> attacks like i used to. i'll have phases of drooling but these are

> gettting less.

>

> I have chelated off and on for about 2 years - when i started out

i

> dosed myself too high and i hurt mysef and had to stop for a

while.

> then i started with DMSA at low dose - i think 6 mg. very slowly

i

> worked up, VERY slowly. for a while i couldn't tolerate ALA with

the

> DMSA so i just did DMSA, then i added ala and chelated together

for a

> while i think getting to 25mg of each per dose. DMSA started

getting

> too expensive so i went to ALA only and have now worked up to 50

mg

> (just this last cycle). It was strange cause i had no symptoms

> during the round - usually i can smell the ALA in my urine and

bowel

> but not this round. I don't know what that means.

>

> My biggest concern is that about two months ago all of a sudden my

> stomach started sticking out - i didn't gain any weight but its

> sticking out and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

> something I feel full pretty quickly and it pushes stomach out

even

> further. i am very worried about it - i had an ultrasound and

they

> didn't see anything but i am still getting bigger right in the

front

> part of the tummy. (not pregnant - doctor checked that too.)

also -

> i started burping all the time and regularly get hiccups now- this

is

> definitely out of the ordinary for me. also - i am getting up int

he

> night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

> also wake in the morning with a swollen tongue and kind of dry

> mouth. for a while my ankle were so puffy again i couldn't move

them.

>

> i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early

stages

> of liver disease " fatty liver " can cause a roll of fat around the

> middle. i've taken a lot of supplements over the last two years

and

> i'm worried that i've hurt it. when i press on my stomach it

seems

> hard like there is somehting in there - again the doctor didn't

find

> anything.

>

> does chelation hurt the liver at all? what can i do to identify

if

> that's the issue? how can i help my liver? i take milk thistle

but

> it doesn't seem to do much.

>

> two days ago my tummy seemed smaller (i've been trying to work out

> regularly) but yesterday i had to take some naproxen for cramps

and

> now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol

etc

> could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

>

> any thoughts apprecciated. i'm going to have start wearing a

corset!!

> esther

>