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based on the recent case in England (the ethylene glycol suicide case with

the living will), you might want to include some comments on how a similar

case would be handled in Texas...

_http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/england/norfolk/8284728.stm_

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/england/norfolk/8284728.stm)

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In a message dated 10/2/2009 17:10:06 Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

Wes,

Will you be covering the issue of medic-initiated patient refusals and the

inherent liability (negligence) therein? It's an enormous problem that

seems to escape public discussion.

Bob Kellow

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:00 PM, _ExLngHrn@..._

(mailto:ExLngHrn@...) > wrote:

>

>

> County Emergency Services District #1 (HCESD-1) will be hosting

two

> free continuing education sessions on Friday, October 16 and Saturday,

> October 17.

>

> The classes will be taught by Wes Ogilvie, a licensed Texas attorney and

> paramedic. The classes cover medical/legal issues and documentation

> practices. EMS providers may attend either session, as both sessions

will

> cover

> the same material. Three hours of DSHS CE credit will be awarded to

> attendees.

>

> Both classes will be held at HCESD-1 headquarters at 2800 Aldine Bender

> Road, Houston TX 77032.

>

> The Friday class will be from 9 AM until noon.

>

> The Saturday class will be from 1 PM until 4 PM.

>

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1. As

> such, preregistration is highly encouraged. Please register via email

with

> , HCESD-1 Education Coordinator, at

__dwilliams@hcesd-_dwil_ (mailto:_dwilliams@...)

<_dwilliams%_dwilliams_dw>_

>

> (mailto:_dwilliams@hcesd-dwill_ (mailto:dwilliams@...)

)

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1.

>

> Best regards,

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, Lic.P./NREMT-

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic/EMS Instructor

> -HCESD-1 Paramedic

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

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Wes,

Will you be covering the issue of medic-initiated patient refusals and the

inherent liability (negligence) therein? It's an enormous problem that

seems to escape public discussion.

Bob Kellow

>

>

> County Emergency Services District #1 (HCESD-1) will be hosting two

> free continuing education sessions on Friday, October 16 and Saturday,

> October 17.

>

> The classes will be taught by Wes Ogilvie, a licensed Texas attorney and

> paramedic. The classes cover medical/legal issues and documentation

> practices. EMS providers may attend either session, as both sessions will

> cover

> the same material. Three hours of DSHS CE credit will be awarded to

> attendees.

>

> Both classes will be held at HCESD-1 headquarters at 2800 Aldine Bender

> Road, Houston TX 77032.

>

> The Friday class will be from 9 AM until noon.

>

> The Saturday class will be from 1 PM until 4 PM.

>

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1. As

> such, preregistration is highly encouraged. Please register via email with

> , HCESD-1 Education Coordinator, at

_dwilliams@...<_dwilliams%40hcesd-1.org>_

>

> (mailto:dwilliams@... )

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1.

>

> Best regards,

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, Lic.P./NREMT-P

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic/EMS Instructor

> -HCESD-1 Paramedic

>

>

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Wes,

Will you be covering the issue of medic-initiated patient refusals and the

inherent liability (negligence) therein? It's an enormous problem that

seems to escape public discussion.

Bob Kellow

>

>

> County Emergency Services District #1 (HCESD-1) will be hosting two

> free continuing education sessions on Friday, October 16 and Saturday,

> October 17.

>

> The classes will be taught by Wes Ogilvie, a licensed Texas attorney and

> paramedic. The classes cover medical/legal issues and documentation

> practices. EMS providers may attend either session, as both sessions will

> cover

> the same material. Three hours of DSHS CE credit will be awarded to

> attendees.

>

> Both classes will be held at HCESD-1 headquarters at 2800 Aldine Bender

> Road, Houston TX 77032.

>

> The Friday class will be from 9 AM until noon.

>

> The Saturday class will be from 1 PM until 4 PM.

>

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1. As

> such, preregistration is highly encouraged. Please register via email with

> , HCESD-1 Education Coordinator, at

_dwilliams@...<_dwilliams%40hcesd-1.org>_

>

> (mailto:dwilliams@... )

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1.

>

> Best regards,

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, Lic.P./NREMT-P

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic/EMS Instructor

> -HCESD-1 Paramedic

>

>

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I sure hope so, I might join just to argue the need for their existence.

 

Mike

Hatfield

" The main part of intellectual education is not the acquisition of facts but

learning how to make facts live. " - Oliver Wendell Holmes

www.michaelwhatfield.net

>

>

> County Emergency Services District #1 (HCESD-1) will be hosting two

> free continuing education sessions on Friday, October 16 and Saturday,

> October 17.

>

> The classes will be taught by Wes Ogilvie, a licensed Texas attorney and

> paramedic. The classes cover medical/legal issues and documentation

> practices. EMS providers may attend either session, as both sessions will

> cover

> the same material. Three hours of DSHS CE credit will be awarded to

> attendees.

>

> Both classes will be held at HCESD-1 headquarters at 2800 Aldine Bender

> Road, Houston TX 77032.

>

> The Friday class will be from 9 AM until noon.

>

> The Saturday class will be from 1 PM until 4 PM.

>

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1. As

> such, preregistration is highly encouraged. Please register via email with

> , HCESD-1 Education Coordinator, at _dwilliams@hcesd-

1.org<_dwilliams% 40hcesd-1. org>_

>

> (mailto:dwilliams@hcesd- 1.org )

>

> First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1 medics and

> EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1.

>

> Best regards,

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, Lic.P./NREMT- P

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic/EMS Instructor

> -HCESD-1 Paramedic

>

>

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Heh. You're a real laugh riot, Bob.

Bob Kellow wrote:

>

> Wes,

>

> Will you be covering the issue of medic-initiated patient refusals and the

> inherent liability (negligence) therein? It's an enormous problem that

> seems to escape public discussion.

>

> Bob Kellow

>

> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:00 PM, ExLngHrn@...

> > wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > County Emergency Services District #1 (HCESD-1) will be

> hosting two

> > free continuing education sessions on Friday, October 16 and Saturday,

> > October 17.

> >

> > The classes will be taught by Wes Ogilvie, a licensed Texas attorney and

> > paramedic. The classes cover medical/legal issues and documentation

> > practices. EMS providers may attend either session, as both sessions

> will

> > cover

> > the same material. Three hours of DSHS CE credit will be awarded to

> > attendees.

> >

> > Both classes will be held at HCESD-1 headquarters at 2800 Aldine Bender

> > Road, Houston TX 77032.

> >

> > The Friday class will be from 9 AM until noon.

> >

> > The Saturday class will be from 1 PM until 4 PM.

> >

> >

> > First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1

> medics and

> > EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for

> HCESD-1. As

> > such, preregistration is highly encouraged. Please register via

> email with

> > , HCESD-1 Education Coordinator, at

> _dwilliams@...

> < _dwilliams%40hcesd-1.org>_

> >

> > (mailto:dwilliams@...

> )

> >

> > First priority for class registration will be given to HCESD-1

> medics and

> > EMS providers affiliated with agencies that first respond for HCESD-1.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, Lic.P./NREMT-P

> > -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic/EMS Instructor

> > -HCESD-1 Paramedic

> >

> >

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