Re: Need to vent and release...... - Inga

[Guest guest]

> > find a way to distance yourself from the problem so that you can

> > think about it rationally. And you also have to keep some time in

> > your life to create other, happy things - friendships, ideas, goals.

>

>

> IMR>>>>>>>Yes, and I have been listenig to The Secret as well.....I

> understand this concept.

Well, I got these concepts from psychotherapy and spiritual healing

and other therapies that I've done over my lifetime. I suppose The

Secret is just a new angle on this stuff? I should read the book.

I really did go off the deep end when I replied to you, and I kind of

knew it at the end, but posted anyway. It was probably not at all

what you needed to hear (it was probably what I needed to hear).

In fact, you sound FAR more organized than I am. And you are probably

more rational most of the time than than I am, too.

> However, I went totally crazy

> yesterday......mentally......chemically......maybe it was because I

> added in ALA the day before, and had one does that was accidently 4

> hours apart.

Well, I've been there and I hear you. It is very hard to be detached

and rational when your biochemistry goes off on a merry, or not so

merry, tangent. When you get hit by a " wave " (whether it's chemical,

hormonal, mercuric, or whatever), there's nothing to do but try to

survive it. Only later can you try to figure out how to prevent it.

> they don't REALLY want to know, unless they are dealing with the same

> issues.

Yep, I think there is something about having a " mercury experience "

that changes a person. Those who haven't been there just don't

know.

> She is a nice gal, but just doesn't want to hear anything healing,

> and she hates to read or learn things on her own,...is alwasy waiting

> for me to teach her things.... so I need to respect that is the way

> she is . However, it gets hard to share, when you can't share about

> what is important to you, and can only be in la-la-land,. Hmmmmm....a

> little light is coming on. I guess I need to put that friendship in a

> better perspective....no matter how sweet she basically is.

Yeah, sounds like she might be okay as a casual friend and not a

real close friend.

> IMR>>>>>>>Nope, there is not a soul out here, and I rarely get into

> the town 25 miles away....I am very stuck out here alone, and I have

> been thinking about a way to get the heck out of here, (pretty as it

> is), but without strong health and money, that is a real challenge. I

> have almost resolved that I just need to learn to live with the

> isolation , until someday down the road, things change. I still

> dream, but have gained a lot more acceptance over it all.....For the

> most part, I am really good at being alone, but sometimes it really

> gets to me.

Too bad we can't switch places. I want to escape from the world,

from people. I stay at home mostly and don't answer the phone.

If it weren't for a few commitments that are important to me (not

least my commitment to myself to pursue better answers and better

care for my problems), I would retire to the wilderness.

> I giggled to myself , when I finally asked the social services

> networks if there could be any assistance in helping me get out of

> the state to another state, where there is aid

> available, .....needless to say, they didn't find that humorous in

> the slightest, but I managed to get a laugh out of it, LOLOL. I

even

> asked another online friend if they could help me make some children

> real fast, Ah-ahahahah!

ROTFL! Borrowing some children would be a lot more practical. Maybe

you could use cardboard cutouts. Some of these agencies might not

notice the difference

> with and trying to heal. My friend, on the other hand, wants to know

> nothing about her own body and believes in the ostrich method....even

> when she was recenlty in the hospital for several days. she was not

> able to tell me much about why she was there.

It seems everyone does have their own journey and they won't

hear some things until they are ready to listen. It is like this

with my family. They think I'm nuts. Well, there's some truth in

that, but they are at least as nuts as I am - they just don't know

it yet. I humor them by allowing them to humor me, at least within

some reasonable limits.

> IMR>>>>>I usually do. I usually do DMSA @ 2 1/2 hours. This time,

> having a little DMPS to work with, I tried doing DMPS every 3 hours

> as I take the ALA to see how it goes. It went very well, and then I

> suddenly had a little stress and my brain went to a very scarey place.

I did 2.5 hours for a long time. I have gravitated down to 2 hour

dosing, and this past round I even did 2 hours at night. I thought

it would be a pain, but I actually felt *more* rested, not less.

And I did really well this round until a couple of days ago when I

went 2.5 hours on a couple of doses. I think I'll try doing 2 hourly

(including at night) again next round.

> > For now, you should just sit down amidst the pieces and let them

> > be just as they are. Before you can fix anything you need to find

> > a way to be comfortable with the reality of things.

>

> IMR>>>>>Right, and I am back to that again..... after yesterday....

I find this " sitting in the ashes of an experience " to be very

transformative sometimes.

> > Get

> > organized, keep notes in folders or notebooks, and get good at

> > putting it all away for the day when your alloted time is up.

>

> IMR>>>>I do that...have been doing that for a long time....I have

> three dry erase boards as well, (categorized by greater and lesser

> importance) so I can write things down and not have to carry it all

> around in my head.

I have a white board, but I can't use those dry erase markers.

I wonder if those cause chemical sensitivity issues for you?

I should get an easel and one of those big paper tablets and use

crayons to write...

> Being somewhere where there were people around would help so

> much....I guess that is why I finally blew it here yesterday when I

> was having that horrible episode...I just needed to share with

> SOMEBODY.......ANYONE!!! ANd yell and whine and scream!

I actually find this much more purgative when I do it alone.

I either do it internally (in meditation where I create people who

will respond to me exactly as I wish them to), or I do it externally

by driving my car into a secluded place and then talking, yelling,

screaming to God, the universe, or I just imagine that whoever I want

to say something to is there and I don't have to pull any punches, I

just let it fly. Sometimes I do it at home, but always afraid the

neighbors will hear me...

This is by far one of the best " therapies " I have done for myself.

I can say/do whatever I want without worrying about any repercussions.

Sometimes it helps me work out what I need to say to a real person.

Another good

" therapy " is to get a bunch of cardboard boxes and

" crush them to death " while thinking of the people (dentists, doctors,

anyone) at whom you are angry. If you are too physically weak, get

some bubble wrap and every time you think of someone you'd like to

" pop " , just pop a bubble while you are thinking about it.

Expressing your feelings in one of these ways (or writing " hate

letters " or other methods) is something that is omitted from some

approaches. I wonder if The Secret includes this important piece?

> Thank goodness, I am much, much, much better today, and have my

> falculties back again. (WHEW!)

>

> I basically lost my mind there yesterday, even though I knew inside

> it had to be a chemical thing. I am now thinking it must have been

> from that one dose that was spaced at 4 hours apart by

> accident......or maybe I didn't dose properly at night, and missed

> one thing or the other with my sleepy head....dunno.....The steroids

> helped, but didn't bring me completely back.

Things could be worse, Inga. If you only lose your mind for a few

hours or a day, it is easier to pick up the pieces. It is possible

to lose your mind for longer periods.

I have found carefully timed dosing to be critical for me. Sometimes

I get lazy because I have a good round and I forget...but one mistake

can be enough to remind me for a good while.

I have also found great benefit from taking GABA to smooth out my

mood. I really had no idea how wonky my mood was until I did this

regularly. I have no idea if that's an issue for you, though.

> The only other time I have gone crazy like that before, is when I was

> thinking I missed a dose, but was not sure, and took the next one

> anyway. It felt almost like somebody had injected with some horrible

> psychotropic drug, and there I was.....waiting for it to simply run

> its course.....

I really think it can be dangerous for some of us to make these kinds

of mistakes. Be careful.

> Thanks for your kind words and input.

I meant well, but

I probably wasn't really on target. Thanks for

your reply.

--

> ~Inga

[Guest guest]

> > find a way to distance yourself from the problem so that you can

> > think about it rationally. And you also have to keep some time in

> > your life to create other, happy things - friendships, ideas, goals.

>

>

> IMR>>>>>>>Yes, and I have been listenig to The Secret as well.....I

> understand this concept.

Well, I got these concepts from psychotherapy and spiritual healing

and other therapies that I've done over my lifetime. I suppose The

Secret is just a new angle on this stuff? I should read the book.

I really did go off the deep end when I replied to you, and I kind of

knew it at the end, but posted anyway. It was probably not at all

what you needed to hear (it was probably what I needed to hear).

In fact, you sound FAR more organized than I am. And you are probably

more rational most of the time than than I am, too.

> However, I went totally crazy

> yesterday......mentally......chemically......maybe it was because I

> added in ALA the day before, and had one does that was accidently 4

> hours apart.

Well, I've been there and I hear you. It is very hard to be detached

and rational when your biochemistry goes off on a merry, or not so

merry, tangent. When you get hit by a " wave " (whether it's chemical,

hormonal, mercuric, or whatever), there's nothing to do but try to

survive it. Only later can you try to figure out how to prevent it.

> they don't REALLY want to know, unless they are dealing with the same

> issues.

Yep, I think there is something about having a " mercury experience "

that changes a person. Those who haven't been there just don't

know.

> She is a nice gal, but just doesn't want to hear anything healing,

> and she hates to read or learn things on her own,...is alwasy waiting

> for me to teach her things.... so I need to respect that is the way

> she is . However, it gets hard to share, when you can't share about

> what is important to you, and can only be in la-la-land,. Hmmmmm....a

> little light is coming on. I guess I need to put that friendship in a

> better perspective....no matter how sweet she basically is.

Yeah, sounds like she might be okay as a casual friend and not a

real close friend.

> IMR>>>>>>>Nope, there is not a soul out here, and I rarely get into

> the town 25 miles away....I am very stuck out here alone, and I have

> been thinking about a way to get the heck out of here, (pretty as it

> is), but without strong health and money, that is a real challenge. I

> have almost resolved that I just need to learn to live with the

> isolation , until someday down the road, things change. I still

> dream, but have gained a lot more acceptance over it all.....For the

> most part, I am really good at being alone, but sometimes it really

> gets to me.

Too bad we can't switch places. I want to escape from the world,

from people. I stay at home mostly and don't answer the phone.

If it weren't for a few commitments that are important to me (not

least my commitment to myself to pursue better answers and better

care for my problems), I would retire to the wilderness.

> I giggled to myself , when I finally asked the social services

> networks if there could be any assistance in helping me get out of

> the state to another state, where there is aid

> available, .....needless to say, they didn't find that humorous in

> the slightest, but I managed to get a laugh out of it, LOLOL. I

even

> asked another online friend if they could help me make some children

> real fast, Ah-ahahahah!

ROTFL! Borrowing some children would be a lot more practical. Maybe

you could use cardboard cutouts. Some of these agencies might not

notice the difference

> with and trying to heal. My friend, on the other hand, wants to know

> nothing about her own body and believes in the ostrich method....even

> when she was recenlty in the hospital for several days. she was not

> able to tell me much about why she was there.

It seems everyone does have their own journey and they won't

hear some things until they are ready to listen. It is like this

with my family. They think I'm nuts. Well, there's some truth in

that, but they are at least as nuts as I am - they just don't know

it yet. I humor them by allowing them to humor me, at least within

some reasonable limits.

> IMR>>>>>I usually do. I usually do DMSA @ 2 1/2 hours. This time,

> having a little DMPS to work with, I tried doing DMPS every 3 hours

> as I take the ALA to see how it goes. It went very well, and then I

> suddenly had a little stress and my brain went to a very scarey place.

I did 2.5 hours for a long time. I have gravitated down to 2 hour

dosing, and this past round I even did 2 hours at night. I thought

it would be a pain, but I actually felt *more* rested, not less.

And I did really well this round until a couple of days ago when I

went 2.5 hours on a couple of doses. I think I'll try doing 2 hourly

(including at night) again next round.

> > For now, you should just sit down amidst the pieces and let them

> > be just as they are. Before you can fix anything you need to find

> > a way to be comfortable with the reality of things.

>

> IMR>>>>>Right, and I am back to that again..... after yesterday....

I find this " sitting in the ashes of an experience " to be very

transformative sometimes.

> > Get

> > organized, keep notes in folders or notebooks, and get good at

> > putting it all away for the day when your alloted time is up.

>

> IMR>>>>I do that...have been doing that for a long time....I have

> three dry erase boards as well, (categorized by greater and lesser

> importance) so I can write things down and not have to carry it all

> around in my head.

I have a white board, but I can't use those dry erase markers.

I wonder if those cause chemical sensitivity issues for you?

I should get an easel and one of those big paper tablets and use

crayons to write...

> Being somewhere where there were people around would help so

> much....I guess that is why I finally blew it here yesterday when I

> was having that horrible episode...I just needed to share with

> SOMEBODY.......ANYONE!!! ANd yell and whine and scream!

I actually find this much more purgative when I do it alone.

I either do it internally (in meditation where I create people who

will respond to me exactly as I wish them to), or I do it externally

by driving my car into a secluded place and then talking, yelling,

screaming to God, the universe, or I just imagine that whoever I want

to say something to is there and I don't have to pull any punches, I

just let it fly. Sometimes I do it at home, but always afraid the

neighbors will hear me...

This is by far one of the best " therapies " I have done for myself.

I can say/do whatever I want without worrying about any repercussions.

Sometimes it helps me work out what I need to say to a real person.

Another good

" therapy " is to get a bunch of cardboard boxes and

" crush them to death " while thinking of the people (dentists, doctors,

anyone) at whom you are angry. If you are too physically weak, get

some bubble wrap and every time you think of someone you'd like to

" pop " , just pop a bubble while you are thinking about it.

Expressing your feelings in one of these ways (or writing " hate

letters " or other methods) is something that is omitted from some

approaches. I wonder if The Secret includes this important piece?

> Thank goodness, I am much, much, much better today, and have my

> falculties back again. (WHEW!)

>

> I basically lost my mind there yesterday, even though I knew inside

> it had to be a chemical thing. I am now thinking it must have been

> from that one dose that was spaced at 4 hours apart by

> accident......or maybe I didn't dose properly at night, and missed

> one thing or the other with my sleepy head....dunno.....The steroids

> helped, but didn't bring me completely back.

Things could be worse, Inga. If you only lose your mind for a few

hours or a day, it is easier to pick up the pieces. It is possible

to lose your mind for longer periods.

I have found carefully timed dosing to be critical for me. Sometimes

I get lazy because I have a good round and I forget...but one mistake

can be enough to remind me for a good while.

I have also found great benefit from taking GABA to smooth out my

mood. I really had no idea how wonky my mood was until I did this

regularly. I have no idea if that's an issue for you, though.

> The only other time I have gone crazy like that before, is when I was

> thinking I missed a dose, but was not sure, and took the next one

> anyway. It felt almost like somebody had injected with some horrible

> psychotropic drug, and there I was.....waiting for it to simply run

> its course.....

I really think it can be dangerous for some of us to make these kinds

of mistakes. Be careful.

> Thanks for your kind words and input.

I meant well, but

I probably wasn't really on target. Thanks for

your reply.

--

> ~Inga