Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 On Saturday, December 5, 2009 00:47, " Weinzapfel " ctacdoc657@...> said: > What is really needing to be addressed here is how we look and address each call > we run and how we assess and treat. The funny thing is, if you take a Tactical > Medic and a Street medic and give them the same scenario it is interesting to see > how the same end results are accomplished, but how they got to that point was > quite different... Whoa... that sounds like some seriously outdated methodology in both examples you gave. I don't believe that either does any justice to your point. Those are better examples of a medic with up-to-date educaton vs. a medic living in the 1980s, more so than a street medic vs. a tactical medic. Medicine is medicine, no matter what street you are on. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Actually Rob, was spot on. I have been a " street medic " for about 10 years now, never knowing anything about the tactical medicine world. Two months ago I was asked to take a tactical medic class because the county I work for is putting togather a " SWAT " team. The goal of the tactical medic is still to keep his team alive, but in the reality of a hostile environment with the constant threat of being shot at, the methods do change. You don't have time to assess vital signs. You don't have time to see if a pressure bandage will stop the bleeding extermity. You place a TK and drag your team member out of the line of fire, without getting shot yourself. RE: Re: Tactical Medicine On Saturday, December 5, 2009 00:47, " Weinzapfel " ctacdoc657@...> said: > What is really needing to be addressed here is how we look and address each call > we run and how we assess and treat. The funny thing is, if you take a Tactical > Medic and a Street medic and give them the same scenario it is interesting to see > how the same end results are accomplished, but how they got to that point was > quite different... Whoa... that sounds like some seriously outdated methodology in both examples you gave. I don't believe that either does any justice to your point. Those are better examples of a medic with up-to-date educaton vs. a medic living in the 1980s, more so than a street medic vs. a tactical medic. Medicine is medicine, no matter what street you are on. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 , I completely agree with your premise. I only disagree that the examples he gave are particularly illustrative of the point. Competent educational programmes are teaching the very same thing to their street medics. Again, medicine is medicine. And those who are doing something different in the two situations is practising outside of the current state of the art. And the radial pulse thing went out a decade ago. There's nothing exclusively " tactical " about moving yourself and your patient out of the line of fire, or the middle of the road, for that matter. It's simple Scene Safety 101. Rob On Saturday, December 5, 2009 17:07, " McGee " summedic@...> said: > Actually Rob, was spot on. I have been a " street medic " for about 10 years > now, never knowing anything about the tactical medicine world. Two months ago I > was asked to take a tactical medic class because the county I work for is putting > togather a " SWAT " team. The goal of the tactical medic is still to keep his team > alive, but in the reality of a hostile environment with the constant threat of > being shot at, the methods do change. You don't have time to assess vital signs. > You don't have time to see if a pressure bandage will stop the bleeding extermity. > You place a TK and drag your team member out of the line of fire, without getting > shot yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Agreed, but as a street medic, I try to stay out of the scene until it is safe. Now, as a tactical medic, I will be going directly into a known unsafe scene. The thought process and resultant actions taken for yourself, as well as your patient, are very different. RE: Re: Tactical Medicine , I completely agree with your premise. I only disagree that the examples he gave are particularly illustrative of the point. Competent educational programmes are teaching the very same thing to their street medics. Again, medicine is medicine. And those who are doing something different in the two situations is practising outside of the current state of the art. And the radial pulse thing went out a decade ago. There's nothing exclusively " tactical " about moving yourself and your patient out of the line of fire, or the middle of the road, for that matter. It's simple Scene Safety 101. Rob On Saturday, December 5, 2009 17:07, " McGee " summedic@...> said: > Actually Rob, was spot on. I have been a " street medic " for about 10 years > now, never knowing anything about the tactical medicine world. Two months ago I > was asked to take a tactical medic class because the county I work for is putting > togather a " SWAT " team. The goal of the tactical medic is still to keep his team > alive, but in the reality of a hostile environment with the constant threat of > being shot at, the methods do change. You don't have time to assess vital signs. > You don't have time to see if a pressure bandage will stop the bleeding extermity. > You place a TK and drag your team member out of the line of fire, without getting > shot yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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