Re: exercise

[Guest guest]

:

This might be different for everyone but. My nsg said never to do push ups

again and if I do sit-ups to make sure I do crunches instead with good solid

neck support. She can probably do reverse crunches but both ways will add

strain to the neck area and also increase pressure.

At eight weeks post-op she should probably be concentrating on walking and

light strengthening excercises.

I was not allowed to bend over or lift anything heavier than 20lbs for about

three months. I too was an avid runner, soccer player, anything player.

Right now I am eight months post-op and am lifting weights four times per

weeek, running on the eliptical running machine four times per week, walking

the dog three miles every other day (my wife does the otehr days)and I am

back to coaching my sons soccer team. I actually played with the soccer kids

for an hour last night.

This is something that is very different for everyone, I know Chip was back

lifting and working our very quickly but others have to take their time but

please remember that rest is the key to recovery. Even now if I over do it

it knocks me back for a few days or even a week sometimes.

From the get go my nsg told me it would take a year to get back to where I

was. I wasn't having that so I pushed to hard to soon and have had to back

off a number of times and start over.

I hope this helps, please have her be careful.

Good luck.

in Dallas

exercise

I just has a question, my DD is 8 weeks post op of decompression, and she

wants to start exercising. She wants to do sit ups or something to work on

her stomach. I just feel this might not be a good thing to do......any

suggestions.....she was an avid runner, and now that is out, what can and

cannot she do.....

thanks

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[Guest guest]

I have a question. I know exercise is good for your heart; BGs; circulation and

other things too. But I am wondering if just exercise by itself is good for

neuropathy? Or is it just low BGs that helps?

ml

[Guest guest]

Please excuse my english (second language) which is the reason I'm not

participating so much in the group.

When you exercise your bg becomes lower. If my bg is to high, if i have eaten to

much, i go for a walk and only needs about 30 minutes and then i don't feel so

dizzy anymore. I believe this is because exercise stabilises the bg.

Regards

Re: exercise

I have a question. I know exercise is good for your heart; BGs; circulation

and

other things too. But I am wondering if just exercise by itself is good for

neuropathy? Or is it just low BGs that helps?

ml

[Guest guest]

This IS the secret regarding exercise and very key thing. So many

people dread and hate exercise. I used to be one of them. When you

change your mind regarding it there is no problem figuring out how to

increase it, you look forward to it, you consider it your friend and

helper, you make it part of your lifestyle, not a thing to fit in. We

can get pretty creative when we want something bad enough.

> i found that deciding i liked it and letting go of

>not liking it about 9 years ago worked fine for me.

>

[Guest guest]

And I feel SO much better with more energy now that I'm exercising - it is good

for every single thing in your body AND mind!

Sandy

Re: exercise

This IS the secret regarding exercise and very key thing. So many

people dread and hate exercise. I used to be one of them. When you

change your mind regarding it there is no problem figuring out how to

increase it, you look forward to it, you consider it your friend and

helper, you make it part of your lifestyle, not a thing to fit in. We

can get pretty creative when we want something bad enough.

[Guest guest]

....I am wondering if just exercise by itself is good for neuropathy? Or is it

just low BGs that helps?...

Lou, I can't comment on the exercise, but if you have neuropathic pain,

lowering BGs to normal non-diabetic numbers (for me) totally eliminated the

pain. I still have some numbness, but the pain is gone.

I hope this helps,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Don't let a little thing like language stop you from getting support. We'll

figure it out. Golly, I can hardly type but I still keep on trying. :-)

From: Nørgaard

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:31 AM

Please excuse my english (second language) which is the reason I'm not

participating so much in the group.

When you exercise your bg becomes lower. If my bg is to high, if i have eaten

to much, i go for a walk and only needs about 30 minutes and then i don't feel

so dizzy anymore. I believe this is because exercise stabilises the bg.

Regards

[Guest guest]

...I wish I could speak Danish as well as you speak English. (Or is

it Swedish? I know you're from one of those nearby places...)

I'm pretty sure your conclusion below is incorrect. And it's never good

to exercise if your BG is low (dizziness could be a symptom of a low).

One should always test before exercise. It's not good to exercise if

you're above 300 - or below 100 if you're going to do strenuous

exercise. Here's a good time to have a carby snack -- a half banana or

orange may be appropriate.

Vicki

Re: exercise

Hi ,

Don't let a little thing like language stop you from getting support.

We'll figure it out. Golly, I can hardly type but I still keep on

trying. :-)

From: Nørgaard

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:31 AM

Please excuse my english (second language) which is the reason I'm not

participating so much in the group.

When you exercise your bg becomes lower. If my bg is to high, if i

have eaten to much, i go for a walk and only needs about 30 minutes and

then i don't feel so dizzy anymore. I believe this is because exercise

stabilises the bg.

Regards

[

[Guest guest]

ML, exercise can help your diabetes and thereby prevent neuropathy. My

neuropathy in my toes has been reversed. I'm sure it helped that I

started exercising because that helped me maintain normal BG's. At

present, I'm trying to get back into exercise and am doing what I can

each day.

Sue

> I think I am borderline on the neuropathy issue. But I was just

> wondering if

> exercise helped it at all. Helen told me that if you can get by the

> pain of the

> neuropathy then the exercise helps other things. I was thinking that

> maybe

> exercise could prevent it.

> ml

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sue. Then it does help circulation and that is also a part of

neuropathy, right? I know I have bad circulation and a horrible back. And at

times

I feel a little numbness in my toes but not sure what causes that, probably

higher

BG numbers at the time. I am trying to get myself motivated for exercise that I

know I must do but my usual pains plus lack of will gets in my way. I hate

reality.

ml

Sue wrote:

> ML, exercise can help your diabetes and thereby prevent neuropathy. My

> neuropathy in my toes has been reversed. I'm sure it helped that I

> started exercising because that helped me maintain normal BG's. At

> present, I'm trying to get back into exercise and am doing what I can

> each day.

>

> Sue

>

>

[Guest guest]

....I am trying to get myself motivated for exercise that I

know I must do but my usual pains plus lack of will gets in my way. I hate

reality...

Hi ML,

Do I remember right that you used to go swimming? It doesn't have to be an hour

in the pool. Any little thing you can do will help BGs. I'm thinking about going

to the pool, if for no other reason than to feel the relaxation of being in the

water, just laying on styrofoam noodles and getting the passive range of motion

for flexibility.

[Guest guest]

Okay I have another question. What's neuropathy? I keep reading about it and am

just not understanding what it is.

Bev who is always full of questions

Re: exercise

ML, exercise can help your diabetes and thereby prevent neuropathy. My

neuropathy in my toes has been reversed. I'm sure it helped that I

started exercising because that helped me maintain normal BG's. At

present, I'm trying to get back into exercise and am doing what I can

each day.

Sue

[Guest guest]

Lou,

Walking used to help my father's neuropathy. He was a mall walker

whenever his other health problems permitted him to do it. Are there

any malls in your area? Most of them open their doors early for people

who want to walk, and some even have places you can sign up and log in

your walks and track your progress. The nice thing about mall walking

is you can do it year round in a controlled climate. My dad made a

number of friends that way, too.

Christy

>

> I won't go into all the details but I just couldn't do it anymore.

[Guest guest]

Yikes, Lou, I didn't know you weren't supposed to do prolonged

walking. Why is that? Do you need to stick with non-load bearing

exercise? I seem to recall that this was why you liked swimming??

Chrisyt

>

> Christy, I cannot walk much at all and am not supposed to do

prolonged walking.

[Guest guest]

>

> ...I am trying to get myself motivated for exercise that I

> know I must do but my usual pains plus lack of will gets in my way. I

hate reality...

Can you find something that you really love to do? For me, it's

dance. Any kind of dance. I've even been known to close the bedroom

door, put on some music and dance all alone. It makes me feel good,

and it certainly doesn't feel like exercise. I've even been known to

tap dance while in elevators alone. Uh oh, now my secret is out! Call

the men in the white coats, LOL!

Christy

[Guest guest]

>

> I can relate to that. When young I used to tap dance solo. Now I am

lucky to walk

> solo, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> ml

I give you a lot of credit for doing the swimming for as long as you

did! Wish you were closer. You could swim in my back yard, but even

then it would only be good for the summer months.

Christy

[Guest guest]

We have a pool in the back yard, but it's not very big. You'd have to

do a lot of laps! We can only keep it open from late May to early

September, because it's too cold here the rest of the year. The best

thing about it is that there is less grass to mow in the back yard, LOL!

Christy

>

> I did that under the previous conditions I mentioned for 18 months. I

am weak.

> Did you just mean in a puddle in your back yard or do you have a

pool,

> LOL!!!!!!!!! I will be right over, thanks.

> ml

>

[Guest guest]

So I won't be looking for you on any of those reality shows, ML, LOL. I

haven't had much motivation for exercise for months, either. Lately

I've just been making myself get on my stationary bike most days and

ride for 15-20 minutes. I figure that that's better than nothing. Sue

> Thank you Sue. Then it does help circulation and that is also a part of

> neuropathy, right? I know I have bad circulation and a horrible back.

> And at times

> I feel a little numbness in my toes but not sure what causes that,

> probably higher

> BG numbers at the time. I am trying to get myself motivated for

> exercise that I

> know I must do but my usual pains plus lack of will gets in my way. I

> hate reality.

[Guest guest]

If they have a reality show showing me winning a million dollars or so, then

maybe, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That I need to do, better than nothing.

ml

Sue wrote:

> So I won't be looking for you on any of those reality shows, ML, LOL. I

> haven't had much motivation for exercise for months, either. Lately

> I've just been making myself get on my stationary bike most days and

> ride for 15-20 minutes. I figure that that's better than nothing. Sue

>

>>

[Guest guest]

If they have a reality show showing me winning a million dollars or so, then

maybe, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ml

Sue wrote:

> So I won't be looking for you on any of those reality shows, ML, LOL. I

> haven't had much motivation for exercise for months, either. Lately

> I've just been making myself get on my stationary bike most days and

> ride for 15-20 minutes. I figure that that's better than nothing. Sue

>

>>

[Guest guest]

I don't really know about the numbers as I am new to T2 - but . maybe

walking in water would be better for your joints? 12x the resistance, but VERY

easy on the joints..

Just my .02

Shauna :-)

_____

I have a question for anyone who may know. When exercising to help lower your

bgs is there a good or better time to do this such as before or after eating.

Because of my disability i really can't do regular exercise and due to my

knee joint replacement am limited even more on the exercise...

Kathy K

[Guest guest]

My bgs tend to go up when I exercise in the morning. What I do is shoot

a couple units of insulin to " prime the pump " . If you are using oral

meds to control bgs you might want to time it to coincide with the

walking. What I think is happening is that the liver dumps glucose into

the system to give us the energy to do the exercise, but the insulin

can't get produced in enough quantity to deliver the glucose to the

muscles that need it, or there's just so much IR that the insulin can't

do its job. Instead of doing all that walking just once a week I would

suggest that you walk some every day so your body gets used to it.

CarolR

Kathy Keef wrote:

> I have a question for anyone who may know. When exercising to help lower

> your bgs is there a good or better time to do this such as before or

> after eating.

[Guest guest]

I don't know about your question, but kudos to you for walking so much and being

able to do it now.

ml

Kathy Keef wrote:

> I have a question for anyone who may know. When exercising to help lower

> your bgs is there a good or better time to do this such as before or

> after eating.

> Because of my disability i really can't do regular exercise and due

> to my knee joint replacement am limited even more on the exercise. The

> only real exercise I can do is walking while shopping, tis is new

> because I ha been forced to use a wheelchair when shopping for almost

> two years before the knee replacement and the year following but am now

> finally able to walk while shopping. Mind you i don't walk fast nor any

> great distance but i do walk all over the first store we shop in weekly

> which is about a 10,000sf store, then i walk down the strip mall of

> about 10 store fronts to the second store we shop which it is over

> 20,000 sf and i walk all over it so am getting that much walking in.

[Guest guest]

Oh you shouldn't ask me this question. I keep a file on hand for just

such an occurance. Here I'll paste it:

I set the weight and age on the treadmill. I set the incline to 3%

and choose the program " aerobic 1 " where it does three hills of 3%,

then 4%, then 5%, then 6% and back down. I set the speed to 4.2mph

and go for 20 minutes. This burns about 320 calories.

I do 15 leg curls and 15 leg crunches at 125lbs each. I then sit and

pull down 162.5lbs 15 times I then bench press 132.5lbs 15 times I

then work my deltoids by expanding out 100lbs 15 times I then work my

pectorals by compressing in 150lbs 15 times. I then curl 20lb dumb

bells 15 times. I then hook them up over my head 15 times I then lift

them on my sides 15 times.

I then hop on the elliptical machine, set the resistance to level 8.

I set my weight and age into it. I set it to a gluteus workout.

That's where the incline is 6, then 8, then 10, then 12, then 14,

then starts over again at 6, it runs through that three times. I do

this for 25 minutes. I try to maintain 165 strides per minute. This

burns about 440 calories.

I then get on the treadmill. I set the weight and age again. I set

the incline to 3% and choose the program " aerobic 1 " where it does

three hills of 3%, then 4%, then 5%, then 6% and back down. I set the

speed to 4.2mph and go for 20 minutes. This burns about 320 calories

I do this Monday through Saturday

I hear this helps the weight loss. I'm not really sure how much. I do

know at the beginning of August I was 328 and told by the PA that I'd

lose 40lbs or so over the next 6 months (beginning of Feb-07). Well

288 didn't really charge me up but okay, whatever right? I mean heck

I was 491 a year prior to that so it's all good!

I weight about 269 today. I have much more muscle/tone too. That

means I've not only lost 59 lbs and have a much better form but I've

also got six more weeks left to lose more weight before my one year

appointment. Keep in mind that six weeks is 1/4 of six months. That

means I might lose another 10-15lbs which would put me at almost

double what the PA thought I was going to lose, all while having

loads more muscle/tone.

I have the week off from xmas to New Years. Since I had my kids in

Texas over Thanksgiving my ex wife is essentially refusing to allow

me to see them over Christmas. Not so serious with Christmas since my

family will just celebrate that with the kids on Xmas eve but the

whole week with nothing to do, kids with nothing to do, etc. sucks.

Anyway, I might take the time I have there and work out in the

morning as usual then come back in the evening and do it again. I'd

be interested to see if I could do that three days in a row or

something.

I started doing much less than this. Heck, obviously I wasn't doing

much more than walking and even then it was to/from my car and the

bathroom for the most part.

Good Luck,

Mike in GR

>

> Just wondering what form of exercise do you do (if any) and how

often

> per week? How long are your workouts/walks/runs, etc.? Is there

anyone

> out there who doesn't exercise at all beyond work and home

> obligations? If so, do you feel it has affected your weight loss?

>

[Guest guest]

This is the second time I have posted this question and no one but

Mike has answered. Is that because only he is proud of his workouts?

Doesn't anyone work out regularly? You're all making me start to wonder...

--Cat

>

> Just wondering what form of exercise do you do (if any) and how often

> per week? How long are your workouts/walks/runs, etc.? Is there anyone

> out there who doesn't exercise at all beyond work and home

> obligations? If so, do you feel it has affected your weight loss?

>