Re: the interview is a no go- to and group

[Guest guest]

Debra,

I know you are disappointed that you could not take the job. However, I think

you are right about YOU being the one to do the extra hours. You made the right

decision for you, for now.

Love and hugs,

Annie in TN

debra van ness ladybug75901@...> wrote:

, you are a smart man. I left with an uneasy feeling. They want

to grab me up and hire me. They were impressed but I just kind of feel like I am

a fish taking some bait. They are good people, don't get me wrong. (R.N's are in

demand). BUT,,,, they do not have a clear description of the job and state how

it can " evolve and change " as time goes along. I realize that salary usually

means to " stick it to you " in the you know where. They are offering me quite a

good bit of money for that position and it is a supervisory position. So, with

my gut instinct and wisdom, I know that supervisory postions turn to high stress

and extra work hours expected. (especially with the salary).

For a healthy person who has more energy and does not live with chronic pain, it

would be a great position I am sure. I also have to consider that I am not only

sick, but have two young children still at home. Yeah, the job comes with

medical insurance that is wonderful... but I am afraid the stress and the

expectations will have me using that medical insurance quite alot. And though

they offer tons of paid holidays (A STATE job), they do not have to give me that

time when I need it. Those hours can be " banked " . So, considering the fact that

a facility like that is a 24/7 operation and never can close for ANY holiday,

they HAVE to staff it. And if I am of such value that I can do the jobs of the

LVN's (LPN's) and the medication aids, then WHO do you think will be going into

work when they call in sick?????? It won't be the two R.N.'s that hire me, it

will be ME.

I just decided to stay at my simple, run of the mill, little low stress nursing

home job where I stepped DOWN from management because of " on call " and such. I

am a simple floor nurse and work my hours and come home now. Plus I love the

people I work with, I love my director of nurses, and the administrator.

The ADMINISTRATOR of the facility hugged me yesterday when I told him I was

staying. That says something. He also told me that I " make a difference there " .

Long winded, sorry.

hugs,

Debra V.

Subject: Re:WENT for interview this morning

To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group

Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 5:04 AM

If you are having " red flags " pop up concerning a job prospect, most

of the time they are correct if you have a gut instinct that some

thing is wrong.

Generally speaking about being a " salaried " employee translates into

" available 24hrs a day " for the corporation, despite their viewpoint

that you would only be " on-call " two days out of the month or will be

scheduled to work a set amount of hours or time frame. When " salaried "

everything can change in a heartbeat and without notice.

Keep in mind that any individual with FM only has a specific amount of

energy to expend during a given time. This is why routine is so

important, you know what to expect.

Having a list of job duties may shed light on how much physical

activity is expected of you.

Another question you should mull over, does this business accommodate

individuals with a disability? Are your needs going to be met and are

you on an even playing field with others at the new business?

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[Guest guest]

Ouch,...a supervisory position.

That would have really maxed your stress levels.

You know the deal, who is ultimately going to be made responsible for

any problems during a shift? The supervisor becomes the chew toy.

I had a supervisor slot as a Lt with a private security company, and I

was chewed on by both my bosses and contract customers despite the

fact that I did not have anything to do with what had occurred.

After 15 years in the industry, the $7.50 (Cheapskates) an hour I was

pulling down was not enough for me to keep taking hits from both sides.

Add in that I was in charge of 13 other supervisors and 348 security

officers a shift and the " problems " really add up.

I was in a catch 22 situation I had basic assigned duties, then the

rest fell under " all other assigned duties " and there were some doozies.

And when my relief did not show or call off, somebody had to stay and

do the next shift.

My 8hr shift frequently turned into a 12hr to 16hr shift, all for " the

company " .

Through our life experiences we become wise enough to pay attention to

our " gut feelings " , more than not they are correct.

It becomes a Black or White situation, with no Grey middle.

If anything seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Don't walk,...run for the exit!!!

From what I read in your follow up post, I believe you made a wise

decision.

Always trust yourself and your instincts.

[Guest guest]

Thanks .  Sounds like you had your fill of that kind of stress too.  Yeah,

I am going to call and tell them today or tomorrow.  I was not suppose to start

until June 2.  They were very nice and I hate to disappoint them, but I cannot

disappoint myself to please them.

hugs,

Debra V.

Subject: Re: the interview is a " no go " - to and group

To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group

Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 8:46 AM

Ouch,...a supervisory position.

That would have really maxed your stress levels.

You know the deal, who is ultimately going to be made responsible for

any problems during a shift? The supervisor becomes the chew toy.

I had a supervisor slot as a Lt with a private security company, and I

was chewed on by both my bosses and contract customers despite the

fact that I did not have anything to do with what had occurred.

After 15 years in the industry, the $7.50 (Cheapskates) an hour I was

pulling down was not enough for me to keep taking hits from both sides.

Add in that I was in charge of 13 other supervisors and 348 security

officers a shift and the " problems " really add up.

I was in a catch 22 situation I had basic assigned duties, then the

rest fell under " all other assigned duties " and there were some doozies.

And when my relief did not show or call off, somebody had to stay and

do the next shift.

My 8hr shift frequently turned into a 12hr to 16hr shift, all for " the

company " .

Through our life experiences we become wise enough to pay attention to

our " gut feelings " , more than not they are correct.

It becomes a Black or White situation, with no Grey middle.

If anything seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Don't walk,...run for the exit!!!

From what I read in your follow up post, I believe you made a wise

decision.

Always trust yourself and your instincts.

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[Guest guest]

Debra,

I know it would have been awesome to have the bennies and quite

honestly, if there is another position out there, it'll show up. In

the meantime, you have a job you like with folks you pretty much like

to work with (the exception being the person who doesn't believe you

when you are hurting). Anyhow, I think you also made the wise choice.

,

After reading your post, even though I wasn't in a supervisory

capacity, I was a salaried employee (an auto claims adjuster) and

well, quite honestly, once we got the twins thru foster care, I had

limits to my day as far as how late I could work. I still got all my

stuff done, still at top caliber, generated " Extremely satisfied "

surveys that kept a # I was graded on in the exceeds expectations and

yet......just before I went out sick, I was called in for a meeting

about my " performance " . And my boss, who was way out of line, said

that he knew it was likely due to the fact that I was going thru the

adoption process, but they had given me a bad grade on a file.

Keep in mind, I handled the " territory " close to my house. One late

afternoon, I got a serious injury accident so literally set up

vehicle inspections, in-person meets, etc. for first thing in the

morning the next day (after I got statements, etc.). Well, I was in a

no coverage area for the wireless card for my laptop so I had no way

of knowing that they had given me a FATALITY accident first thing

that morning until I got into the office 3-4 hrs later. Basically, I

got nailed. Never mind the fact that the night before, after getting

my kids, I worked for hours on the laptop updating everything. Never

mind the fact that prior to remarrying and then planning to adopt I

would cover for the single folks and also worked a crappy shift that

was only supposed to be for a short time (10-7, Tues-Sat).

Personally, I think I was being set up to be let go when I went out

on short-term then long-term disability. After over 12+ yrs of

dedicated and quality service. Now I'm doing the SSD dance of waiting

for a hearing.

Gosh, I didn't know that was in me! How cathartic it is to be in

this group sometimes! Cheaper than therapy....lolol....

Darlene

>

> Ouch,...a supervisory position.

>

> That would have really maxed your stress levels.

>

> You know the deal, who is ultimately going to be made responsible

for

> any problems during a shift? The supervisor becomes the chew toy.

>

> I had a supervisor slot as a Lt with a private security company,

and I

> was chewed on by both my bosses and contract customers despite the

> fact that I did not have anything to do with what had occurred.

>

> After 15 years in the industry, the $7.50 (Cheapskates) an hour I

was

> pulling down was not enough for me to keep taking hits from both

sides.

>

> Add in that I was in charge of 13 other supervisors and 348 security

> officers a shift and the " problems " really add up.

>

> I was in a catch 22 situation I had basic assigned duties, then the

> rest fell under " all other assigned duties " and there were some

doozies.

>

> And when my relief did not show or call off, somebody had to stay

and

> do the next shift.

>

> My 8hr shift frequently turned into a 12hr to 16hr shift, all

for " the

> company " .

>

> Through our life experiences we become wise enough to pay attention

to

> our " gut feelings " , more than not they are correct.

>

> It becomes a Black or White situation, with no Grey middle.

>

> If anything seems too good to be true, it probably is.

>

> Don't walk,...run for the exit!!!

>

> From what I read in your follow up post, I believe you made a wise

> decision.

>

> Always trust yourself and your instincts.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/7/2008 6:07:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ladybug75901@... writes:

I just decided to stay at my simple, run of the mill, little low stress

nursing home job where I stepped DOWN from management because of " on call " and

such. I am a simple floor nurse and work my hours and come home now. Plus I

love the people I work with, I love my director of nurses, and the

administrator.

Sounds like you are making the best decision for you, given your situation.

You know your body and how far you can push it, so you are right to think of

it first.

Love you, friend,

Debi

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My former employer did the " setup - terminate " number on me.

It took him 3 tries because I knew too much about how the industry

" really' operates and was able to dodge 2 attempts.

A new operations manager came in to town and during the course of a

year trumped up reasons to fire all the office staff and senior

supervisors.

It didn't make any sense from a business point of view, to sever all

of your experienced staff in a years time and inserting people with no

experience in those slots.

[Guest guest]

Debra, If you don't mind me asking where was your interview? It's hard to do a

stressfull job like that when you have fibro, much less 2 kids still at home. I

know you made the right decision, so feel good about that.

Debra B

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