Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Amen! I am going to copy this and paste it around my house. Milena TxCoastGal@... wrote: Oh you poor dear, Jean. Ok - number one - you say you're sick of listening to all this. Yes, you are sick Jean. You have been enmeshed so deeply that it made you physically ill. You said you felt you might have been having a stroke. STOP! You say in the post below - I have to go there and watch two screaming babies. No, no, you do not. You do not have to do ONE blessed thing to lift a finger in K's situation. Nothing. Zip. Nada. You owe her nothing. Jean, I am not trying to sound harsh but you have either to begin a consistent set of boundaries, or it will put you in your grave. We are not getting any younger Jean. Do you want to go on til you die thinking you're responsible to a. pay the mortgage b. babysit at the drop of a hat, any, and every time she wishes c. be the recipient of her verbal abuse - including, but not limited to: name calling, threats (everything from 'you can't see the kids', to 'if you don't do it my way .. blah, blah, blah', her deadlines (making you feel under pressure) d. have a gun held to your head with her emotional blackmail e. have the dirtbag son in law running around partying and not being responsible for even paying for diapers for those children, not to mention food, clothing, the whole ball of wax..... f. pay the mortgage and possibly then be supporting the dirtbag that might be living there FREE from your earnings..... and possibly impregnating K again while doing it? Jean - I say all this because I've grown to love and care about you here. And because I hear my own feelings when you speak. When my dirtbag son in law was still alive the feelings that I had were just like yours. Helen, Milena, Debbie, Carol, Toni, Kelley, and more folks (including yourself) have said to create boundaries. Limitations. Stick with them. Do not allow yourself to go down with her. Someone likened this to their family drowning, and the bpd child pulling them down with her by flailing her arms and saying ' go away ', until they all drowned. Print out the words from all of them and STICK with it!!! Please do not drown, Jean! Please. Save yourself. You must, or you'll not be able to be there for your grandchildren. Make a list of things you WILL, and things that you WILL NOT do. It's hard! It's terribly hard. You keep coming back to saying you cannot let your grandchildren live in substandard housing, etc. Call me uncaring, less than stellar as a Gramma, hard hearted, call me anything - but don't call me when it's time to pay a mortgage of $2700.00 and your daughter has no intention of doing anything differently in the future. Sooner or later it's time to pay the piper. Will you truly be able to cover the 32,000.00 plus dollars it costs in mortgage costs alone per year where she is living now? Even if you had the money to burn, is it really helping K learn that she must support her own family if she keeps having babies? Yes, I have watched my grandbabies live in hellholes before. People can be 'righteous' all they want and say how awful that is. Yes, it's awful. And after a year of living in those apartments finally my daughter decided it was awful as well. And so far, the kids are still alive, and they have really learned to stay away from some of those people in the world. There are harsh realities out there that I hope will continue sinking in with my daughter. She has moved, as of a month ago, and is now living in a tiny country home. Mine will probably end up pregnant with her fifth, since she is now involved with another man. If she marries that man - the children will still receive their monthly SS survivor benefits, but daughter will lose her own monthly allotment. Ce'st las vie.... such is life. So get your pen (use a Sharpie...), your notebook, and begin jotting down things one by one just like Milena advised, and make that list. Make copies. I WILL tell K to talk about her addiction to Will with the counselor, and not myself. I WILL not let myself engage in a conversation where I am being abused verbally. I WILL tell her I'll hang up the phone if she yells at me - and I'll DO IT! I WILL NOT be responsible for her monthly bills any longer. I WILL let her be responsible for her own life / finances / jobs If my daughter were anyone else - or a 'friend' of mine, she'd never get away with abuse. She will not get away with it by simply having a common bloodline. I WILL NOT go down with the ship. I LOVE YOU JEAN - don't do it! Blondie In a message dated 6/15/2006 1:16:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, WTOParentsOfBPs writes: I am just so sick of listening to all this. I have really reached my saturation point. She will never be any better. She IS a loser, will always be a loser BECAUSE SHE doesn't WANT to change. Stopped going to counseling. I am sick of babaysitting the 4 of them. I work at this real estate which is busy now and demeanding so I have to have my wits about me or get sued and then I have to go there and watch 2 screaming babies. The boysm are no trouble. I hate my daughter at this point---I really do. For all I know, she probably did sleep with him yesterday AM and will be pregnant yet again. 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