Re: -- A PRISON OF PILLS--To

[Guest guest]

, I must beg to differ a little here.  Being a nurse and also having read

so much, Tylenol is NOT an anti-inflammatory drug.  The Non-Steroidal

Anti-inflammatory class of medications or NSAIDS  are Aspirin (the oldest),

Aleve which is the brand name for Naproxen Sodium, and Advil which is the brand

name for Ibuprofen.

Also, many people have the belief that hydrocodone is codeine.   It is not. Now,

Prescription pain meds such as Tylenol #3 and Tylenol #4 ARE a combination of

Tylenol and Codeine.  

Some people who are allergic to Codeine may or may not be able to take

hydrocodone.

But Tylenol is not anti-inflammatory.  It also blows my mind that Tylenol now

makes a Tylenol Arthritis strength medicine.  This would lead you to believe

that it is anti-inflammatory or has one mixed with the Tylenol.  Guess what???? 

All it is is.... Plain old Tylenol without anything else in it that was made as

an Extended release tablet.  Very decieving. 

Anyway, I certainly mean no harm .  I love all of your posts.  So please

don't take me wrong here.  You are completely right about the rest of the post. 

Hydrocodone is habit forming and yes,,,, Tylenol CAN ruin the liver and kidneys

in anyone who takes more than the recommended dose per day OR already has

compromised kidneys or liver. And yes, Tylenol should not be taken by anyone

who consumes alcohol on a regular basis.

hugs,

Debra V.

Subject: Re: -- A PRISON OF PILLS-- To Debra V

To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group

Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 5:09 AM

Hydrocodone in a 5/500 pill contains:

5mg of codeine - pain reliever

500mg of acetaminophen - an anti-inflammatory

Hydrocodone is habit-forming, and can lead to physical and

psychological addiction, (run out of your prescription and you will

eat shirt buttons) addiction varies depending on unique biological

differences.

Hydrocodone pills contain acetaminophen, consuming more than 4,000

milligrams (8 pills) of acetaminophen a day can cause liver damage,

jaundice, and even liver failure if it is taken in excessive doses for

an extended period of time.

Drinking alcohol while taking Hydrocodone can cause serious damage to

the liver, kidneys, and stomach wall.

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[Guest guest]

I'm going to get all of ducks in a row to avoid dispensing confusion

on the chemical makeup of Hydrocodone.

Also I don't want anyone to take any of the posts on this subject as

" hostile " , they're not.

My " credibility " on the subject comes directly from either the

pharmacy handout, books, and the internet.

I'll start by listing some of the internet sources:

Wikipedia Hydrocodone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone

In the first sentence, " Hydrocodone or dihydrocodeinone is a

semi-synthetic opioid derived from two of the naturally occurring

opiates, codeine and thebaine " . (This is the pure form of Hydrocodone,

and is not what I was talking about.)

Logically, if the product is derived from codeine it contains codeine.

Scrolling farther down the article to the area, " Hydrocodone Compounds "

addresses my initial post:

When sold commercially in the United States, hydrocodone is always

combined with another medication. (I my case 5 mg/500 mg

hydrocodone/acetaminophen)

Those combined with acetaminophen are known by various trademark

names, such as Vicodin and Lortab. Hydrocodone also can be combined

with aspirin (e.g., Lortab ASA), ibuprofen (e.g., Vicoprofen), and

certain antihistamines (e.g., Chemdal HD). Pure hydrocodone tablets or

capsules are not offered currently by any USA drug company.

Wikipedia Hydrocodone Compounds:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone_compound

Wikipedia Acetaminophen redirected as Paracetamol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetaminophen

(Derived from coal tar,...How Lovely)

A continuing theme occurring concerning acetaminophen or paracetamol

is that articles point out, it is not a very effective

anti-inflammatory agent.

This is a good stopping point for me, because as all of us FM suffers

know TMI can come on fast and become difficult to follow, so I'll just

reach up and ring the bell on the information bus. My stops coming up.

Everybody keep the information flowing, we all need it.

[Guest guest]

I am one of those unfortunate souls who cannot take hydrocodone OR

codeine. So until I see my new rheumatologist next month, I am left

with neurontin (up to 3x a day), the tylenol arthritis (I'm on

coumadin so cannot take naproxen, which hurts my kidneys anyhow),

robaxin as needed for the spasms and darvocet when the pain gets to

be too much.

But I know that there are other things I can take once I see the new

doctor that will help me get more relief. Until then, I am doing what

I can to survive, because as my grandma used to say " I ache like a

toothache " ......sigh.....

Darlene

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> Subject: Re: -- A PRISON OF PILLS-- To Debra V

> To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group

> Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 5:09 AM

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> psychological addiction, (run out of your prescription and you will

> eat shirt buttons) addiction varies depending on unique biological

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> Hydrocodone pills contain acetaminophen, consuming more than 4,000

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