New here

[Guest guest]

You mean your BG at bedtime was 315? Kathleen, that's absolutely too

high. You must get your numbers down or you're courting trouble. What

you want to aim for is as close to 100 as possible. Ultimate goal is no

higher than 140 an hour after meals; 120 at 2 hours. This may sound

impossible to you now, but believe me, it can be done. But you're going

to have to watch those food choices. Fruits are sweet. You should eat

them verrrry sparingly. Did you check out the USDA website yet? If you

did, you'd know that applesauce is high in carbs/sugar. Even natural

applesauce, unsweetened.

I know, it seems like everything you love in the way of food you're

going to have to give up. But think of it this way: Would you rather

have those foods or your sight? Your feet? Your kidneys? Your heart?

Somehow that makes it easier, at least for me. And after a while --

believe me, honestly - you don't miss your favorite foods so much. And

you discover a whole bunch of foods you didn't think you liked that now

you do.

Vicki

Re: New Here

> Last night at bedtime I had 315, I think it might have been my snack

> of applesauce. I guess that means applesauce is another high carb

> food that I shouldn't be enjoying as much as I do.

> Kathleen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow. For supper I

ate a lot of lettuce and a little bit of fish and some leftover stir

fried vegetables. How did it go up with lettuce, I thought lettuce

helps it stay down.

Kathleen

>

> You mean your BG at bedtime was 315? Kathleen, that's absolutely too

> high. You must get your numbers down or you're courting trouble. What

> you want to aim for is as close to 100 as possible. Ultimate goal is no

> higher than 140 an hour after meals; 120 at 2 hours. This may sound

> impossible to you now, but believe me, it can be done. But you're going

> to have to watch those food choices. Fruits are sweet. You should eat

> them verrrry sparingly. Did you check out the USDA website yet? If you

> did, you'd know that applesauce is high in carbs/sugar. Even natural

> applesauce, unsweetened.

>

> I know, it seems like everything you love in the way of food you're

> going to have to give up. But think of it this way: Would you rather

> have those foods or your sight? Your feet? Your kidneys? Your heart?

>

> Somehow that makes it easier, at least for me. And after a while --

> believe me, honestly - you don't miss your favorite foods so much. And

> you discover a whole bunch of foods you didn't think you liked that now you

do.

>

> Vicki

>

>

[Guest guest]

What was your bg immediately before you ate supper? If it was already

150 or over that's not a terrible bad rise. If is was 100, then

something is wrong.

CarolR

kathleenataylor wrote:

> Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

> discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

> that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow.

[Guest guest]

Kathleen, I have been reading your posts and the replies. I am afraid

you have two problems here: Your diabetes is advanced enough that your

pancreas, at this point, is not capable of supplying the proper insulin

to cover your meals. Additionally, you seem to have some, maybe a lot,

of IR. I believe you mentioned 500mg of metformin. Not enough. Since

you seem to be having a problem tolerating it, I would suggest you

consider insulin, at least for the short term. Unless you find eating

yogurt negates any ill effects from metformin and you can increase it to

at least 1500mg a day.

Secondly: You need to educate yourself about the composition of foods.

While you are learning, I would suggest you forget about calories and the

myths about low fat. Make your choices from any flesh you can eat. Do

not consume a lot of fish, it is filled with mercury. Once your bgs are

under control, you can think about omega 3 caps. Let me back up on the

fish, small fish are not as contaminated as big fish, if you like

sardines, you might consider eating them, packed in water, if they come

that way. Obviously I don't like sardines.

What to eat with all that meat? Only those low carb veggies on Vicki's

list that you are not allergic to. And eggs, a good low carb choice.

Now I am not talking about the rest of your life with these extreme

restrictions; I just urge you to consider them for the interim period

until you can gain good control. Then you can start adding small

portions of fruits and other veggies that might be higher in carbs, like

eggplant a fave of mine. All the while testing to see what you can

tolerate and not raise bgs.

Finally, I think you need to find some exercise that you can do. When

you have a number like 315, it is not good to go to bed with it. Some

people here report a brisk 30 minute walk can bring their bgs down over

100 points. Perhaps you can find some vigorous, yet possible, chair

exercises and bring your bgs down too.

Of course, back to insulin, a shot would have reduced those numbers too.

It is all very hard at the beginning, especially when you have to abandon

what was supposed to be a healthy diet. Healthy for norms is not the

same as healthy for diabetics.

Helen

[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

Don't be discouraged, you're trying to absorb a lot of information right

now! The initial learning curve for this thing is pretty steep, but you'll get

there.

Do you know what your bg was " before " that supper?

It's hard (impossible actually) to make any valid conclusions about what

went on with a particular situation, in this case a meal, without knowing where

the bg's started.

If your bg was 175mg/dl before eating, then 209mg/dl is not a bad spike.

If it was 100mg/dl before eating, then 209mg/dl 2-hrs after is a big deal.

I would say that the fish didn't do anything.

Did you " stuff yourself " with lettuce? If not, then that wouldn't have

caused a big spike. Dr Bernstein describes what he calls the " Chinese Restaurant

Effect " which means overeating even low-carb foods that will cause bg rises out

of proportion to the actual carb content.

The real question I have is what was in that stir-fry? Did you use a

" stir-fry " sauce? Some of those do contain sugar. I know I sound like a

broken-record, but reading labels is very important.

Did the stir-fry contain a " lot " of carby vegies such as carrots, peas

(whole pods or just the fruit), a lot of water chesnuts?

Points to ponder.

*****************************************

, T2, dx'ed 4/98 with Fasting bg 350mg/dl & HbA1c 15.5%

Controlling until last month with LC-D & very little E

Average Fasting bg 105mg/dl, Last HbA1c 6.0%

7+ Year Historical HbA1c 5.6%-6.0%

Now Experimenting with Metformin, Glyburide & " Merlot Therapy " for HbA1c

nearer 5.0%

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>> Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow. For supper I

ate a lot of lettuce and a little bit of fish and some leftover stir

fried vegetables. How did it go up with lettuce, I thought lettuce

helps it stay down.

Kathleen <<<

[Guest guest]

I didn't check before supper, I have checked as soon as I get up and

two hours after each meal. I guess that I better add somemore times. I

thought I was doing good with checking, because I use to check only

once a month or so.

Kathleen

> > Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

> > discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

> > that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow.

>

[Guest guest]

At 12:13 AM 12/30/05, kathleenataylor wrote:

>Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

>discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

>that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow. For supper I

>ate a lot of lettuce and a little bit of fish and some leftover stir

>fried vegetables. How did it go up with lettuce, I thought lettuce

>helps it stay down.

Kathleen, what was your BG *before* you ate? Seeing a high number after you

eat doesn't do any good if you don't know what it was beforehand. If your

BG was 190 before you ate then you only went up 19 points. If it was 112

beforehand, then you went up 97 points (which would be odd for fish and

stir-fry (depending on what veggies were IN the stir-fry, of course) and

lettuce.

Eating two meals a day isn't going to help, either. You really need to eat

regular meals and maybe snacks.

I agree with what Vicki said earlier. You should try doing two weeks of

very low-carb meals and see how that affects your BG numbers. The most

important thing at first is to get your BG down to a reasonable level and

fairly steady. Then you can think about adding in some of the more carby

foods.

sky

[Guest guest]

At 01:26 AM 12/30/05, Carol wrote:

>What was your bg immediately before you ate supper? If it was already

>150 or over that's not a terrible bad rise. If is was 100, then

>something is wrong.

pffft, I should have read all of the responses before I sent mine, which

said essentially the same thing. On well, since when have I EVER read all

responses beforehand? Never, that's when.

sky

I have a speech impediment...my foot.

http://www.skydor.com

http://www.skydancers.com

[Guest guest]

OK, but what was in the stir fried vegetables? If they included peas, corn or

rice that's what

caused your high bg spike. Also check the sauce in it, if any. It all adds up

and you need to

think it all through before buying any food, just read the label and decide for

the lowest carb

version available, or get something else if that isn't possible.

Also, you may be obsessing too much in our effort to gain control, and anxiety

can easily cause

high bg levels ANYTIME. So try to learn so you can relax and not throw a wild

variable into the

situation.

Ted Quick

--- kathleenataylor kathleenataylor@...> wrote:

> Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

> discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

> that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow. For supper I

> ate a lot of lettuce and a little bit of fish and some leftover stir

> fried vegetables. How did it go up with lettuce, I thought lettuce

> helps it stay down.

> Kathleen

>

>

> >

> > You mean your BG at bedtime was 315? Kathleen, that's absolutely too

> > high. You must get your numbers down or you're courting trouble. What

> > you want to aim for is as close to 100 as possible. Ultimate goal is no

> > higher than 140 an hour after meals; 120 at 2 hours. This may sound

> > impossible to you now, but believe me, it can be done. But you're going

> > to have to watch those food choices. Fruits are sweet. You should eat

> > them verrrry sparingly. Did you check out the USDA website yet? If you

> > did, you'd know that applesauce is high in carbs/sugar. Even natural

> > applesauce, unsweetened.

> >

> > I know, it seems like everything you love in the way of food you're

> > going to have to give up. But think of it this way: Would you rather

> > have those foods or your sight? Your feet? Your kidneys? Your heart?

> >

> > Somehow that makes it easier, at least for me. And after a while --

>

> > believe me, honestly - you don't miss your favorite foods so much. And

> > you discover a whole bunch of foods you didn't think you liked that now you

do.

> >

> > Vicki

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That may not help, since when our bg is over 250 exercise will automatically

RAISE bg for almost

anyone. The system is confused at those levels so it's best to relax, take some

insulin to counter

it and wait for the level to drop.

In case it wasn't apparent in the above I agree completely that insulin may be

the best treatment

for her now. After a short while on insulin she may be able to go back to pills

if she wished, but

insulin is so much more adjustable.

Ted Quick

--- Helen Mueller jlnhjm@...> wrote:

> Kathleen, I have been reading your posts and the replies.

> Finally, I think you need to find some exercise that you can do. When

> you have a number like 315, it is not good to go to bed with it. Some

> people here report a brisk 30 minute walk can bring their bgs down over

> 100 points. Perhaps you can find some vigorous, yet possible, chair

> exercises and bring your bgs down too.

>

> Of course, back to insulin, a shot would have reduced those numbers too.

>

> It is all very hard at the beginning, especially when you have to abandon

> what was supposed to be a healthy diet. Healthy for norms is not the

> same as healthy for diabetics.

>

> Helen

>

[Guest guest]

Kathleen, cutting down on the number of meals you eat isn't the way to

go. It is actually counter-productive. Much better to go for small

meals more frequently.

As Helen said in an earlier post, you need to forget everything you've

read about low fat diets and concentrate on getting those BGs down as

soon as you can. If you haven't gotten Dr. Bernstein's book yet -- and

I highly recommend you do; don't wait to buy it, order it from your

library! -- at least, go to his website and read everything there.

Again, the URL is

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml

It also sounds like you didn't follow the link on my newby letter that I

recommended. PLEASE DO SO NOW if you want to stop being discourged and

accomplish something!

Go here:

" What They Don't Tell You About Diabetes "

http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Take care,

Vicki

Re: New Here

> Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

> discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

> that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow. For supper I

> ate a lot of lettuce and a little bit of fish and some leftover stir

> fried vegetables. How did it go up with lettuce, I thought lettuce

> helps it stay down.

> Kathleen

>

>

>>

>> You mean your BG at bedtime was 315? Kathleen, that's absolutely too

>> high. You must get your numbers down or you're courting trouble.

>> What

>> you want to aim for is as close to 100 as possible. Ultimate goal is

>> no

>> higher than 140 an hour after meals; 120 at 2 hours. This may sound

>> impossible to you now, but believe me, it can be done. But you're

>> going

>> to have to watch those food choices. Fruits are sweet. You should

>> eat

>> them verrrry sparingly. Did you check out the USDA website yet? If

>> you

>> did, you'd know that applesauce is high in carbs/sugar. Even natural

>> applesauce, unsweetened.

>>

>> I know, it seems like everything you love in the way of food you're

>> going to have to give up. But think of it this way: Would you rather

>> have those foods or your sight? Your feet? Your kidneys? Your heart?

>>

>> Somehow that makes it easier, at least for me. And after a while --

>

>> believe me, honestly - you don't miss your favorite foods so much.

>> And

>> you discover a whole bunch of foods you didn't think you liked that

>> now you do.

>>

>> Vicki

[Guest guest]

At 08:43 AM 12/30/05, kathleenataylor wrote:

>I didn't check before supper, I have checked as soon as I get up and

>two hours after each meal. I guess that I better add somemore times. I

>thought I was doing good with checking, because I use to check only

>once a month or so.

Checking more often is good, but you are doing the checking to learn

something. You're trying to learn how your meals or specific foods raise

your blood glucose levels. To do that you need something to compare with.

So you need to test before you eat (and hopefully, several hours after you

last ate anything) and then 1 1/2 hours or 2 hours later. That gives you

the comparison. For some foods you may end up wanting to check at shorter

time intervals after eating...like once every half hour for the next two to

three hours. That's a lot of testing, I know, but that could give you an

idea of when the reaction to the food first " hits " and how long it takes to

wear off. Sometimes your BG numbers can look fine at 2 hours because for

whatever reason they spiked you only one hour after you ate and by the time

you check they're on their way down again. It's such a fun

disease...always keeps you guessing. (wry smile) 8-/

The thing most of us have the hardest time with is convincing some doctor

(and/or our insurance companies or medicare) to allow us the number of test

strips we NEED to actually learn how we react to different foods. It seems

they'd rather pay out really big money later on for our amputations or

wheelchairs or dialysis for non-functioning kidneys, etc., than for the

strips that could prevent the complications.

You need to try to convince your doctor that you need a prescription for

more test strips. They are expensive...in fact, they're the way the meter

companies make their money. They'll give away the meters. Someone said

it's like drugs...the first one is free.

-=skydancer=-

Karmageddon: It's like, when everybody is

sending off all of these really bad vibes, right?

And then, like, the earth explodes and it's

like, a serious bummer.

www.skydancers.com

http://www.skydor.com

[Guest guest]

Oh, and make sure you stay well hydrated. Drink lots of water.

Christy

>> You need to know where you started, as others have pointed out.

Also,

> you could try eating small amounts every 3 to 4 hours instead of two

> larger meals.

[Guest guest]

Kathleen, you can't tell how much a certain food has raised your bg

unless you know what your bg was BEFORE you ate that food. Then you do

the math. I think you're doing a lot better with checking. Just don't

forget to write it down everytime. Write down the date, the time and

the bg#. Maybe you have a little notebook in the house that you could

use - one page for each day and then you can include what you eat and

what time you eat it. I know this is a lot, but we want to get those

numbers down.

CarolR

kathleenataylor wrote:

> I didn't check before supper, I have checked as soon as I get up and

> two hours after each meal.

[Guest guest]

Well...for sure, it's better than once a month, Kathleen.

However...how can you judge how different foods affect you if you don't

have a baseline to start from? That's the purpose of testing BEFORE a

meal as well as 1 and 2 hours afterwards.

Vicki

Re: New Here

>I didn't check before supper, I have checked as soon as I get up and

> two hours after each meal. I guess that I better add somemore times. I

> thought I was doing good with checking, because I use to check only

> once a month or so.

> Kathleen

>

>

>> > Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

>> > discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

>> > that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow.

>>

>

[Guest guest]

when i first got my diabetes,type 2,no med.i didn,t know much about the diease.

all i was told by the dr,watch what you eat,like no fried food,no sweet stuff

,lose wieght and exercise. i was so determinded to lose weight that i cut

everthing out at once. little salad,jello.soups. and my sugar went up worse than

before,never could get down,went on the line here and ask the expert,and i was

doing everthing wrong. i learned you have to feed your diease.it really surprise

me. i change my way of eating. i eat 3 meals a day,and snacks and weight came

off and my bg went back down. crazy diease.and take test all the time.

Christy Stouffer macey110@...> wrote:

>

> Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

> discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

> that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow.

You need to know where you started, as others have pointed out. Also,

you could try eating small amounts every 3 to 4 hours instead of two

larger meals. That may work better for you, as it did for me. I used

this method (eating no more than 15 g. of carbs at any one time, and

small amounts of food and snacks throughout the day) to get control of

my BG, and along the way I lost 60 pounds. The best thing was, I was

never hungry. I carried snacks with me when I was out of the house, in

a soft-sided little cooler, so I always had something healthy

to " graze " on. Now I'm a little more casual about it, but that's

because I've lost enough weight and my BG almost never goes above 120.

Christy

[Guest guest]

Are farm raised fish also full of mercury? Aren't most of the fish we buy

in the grocery stores, farm raised?

**********************************************************************

Bev Thoman wife to Rex T2 dx Oct 21, 2005, 1st A1C 11.8 (?LADA?) Meds:

Metformin 1500 mg, Avandia 4 mg, Micardis 40 mg, LOW Carb diet (usually

about 75 g per day) bg now averaging about 200 (with a lot of fluctuation),

but trying to get close to 100 - 120, and an A1c of 5.5 - 6

Go Navy!!!!!!!!

_____

Do not consume a lot of fish, it is filled with mercury. Once your bgs are

under control, you can think about omega 3 caps. Let me back up on the fish,

small fish are not as contaminated as big fish, if you like sardines, you might

consider eating them, packed in water, if they come that way. Obviously I don't

like sardines.

[Guest guest]

Are farm raised fish also full of mercury? Aren't most of the fish we buy

in the grocery stores, farm raised?

**********************************************************************

Bev Thoman wife to Rex T2 dx Oct 21, 2005, 1st A1C 11.8 (?LADA?) Meds:

Metformin 1500 mg, Avandia 4 mg, Micardis 40 mg, LOW Carb diet (usually

about 75 g per day) bg now averaging about 200 (with a lot of fluctuation),

but trying to get close to 100 - 120, and an A1c of 5.5 - 6

Go Navy!!!!!!!!

_____

Do not consume a lot of fish, it is filled with mercury. Once your bgs are

under control, you can think about omega 3 caps. Let me back up on the fish,

small fish are not as contaminated as big fish, if you like sardines, you might

consider eating them, packed in water, if they come that way. Obviously I don't

like sardines.

[Guest guest]

Are farm raised fish also full of mercury? Aren't most of the fish we buy

in the grocery stores, farm raised?

**********************************************************************

Bev Thoman wife to Rex T2 dx Oct 21, 2005, 1st A1C 11.8 (?LADA?) Meds:

Metformin 1500 mg, Avandia 4 mg, Micardis 40 mg, LOW Carb diet (usually

about 75 g per day) bg now averaging about 200 (with a lot of fluctuation),

but trying to get close to 100 - 120, and an A1c of 5.5 - 6

Go Navy!!!!!!!!

_____

Do not consume a lot of fish, it is filled with mercury. Once your bgs are

under control, you can think about omega 3 caps. Let me back up on the fish,

small fish are not as contaminated as big fish, if you like sardines, you might

consider eating them, packed in water, if they come that way. Obviously I don't

like sardines.

[Guest guest]

I have heard that farm raised fish are worse than wild fish, the reason

being that the water is constantly full of fish in convested areas, thus

causing more problems than the fish in the wild. I am not sure if it is

mercury or other things, but I will not buy farm-raised fish at all -

only wild and then only in small quantities - it seems there is more

harm than good to fish these days and I live near the coast. I am very

cautious and as a result eat very little fish.

Barb in NH

Bev Thoman wrote:

> Are farm raised fish also full of mercury? Aren't most of the fish we buy

> in the grocery stores, farm raised?

>

>

>

> **********************************************************************

>

[Guest guest]

But doesn't insulin shorten your lifespan? I thought that once you

start on insulin then your lifespan is automatically shortened.

Kathleen

>

> That may not help, since when our bg is over 250 exercise will

automatically RAISE bg for almost

> anyone. The system is confused at those levels so it's best to

relax, take some insulin to counter

> it and wait for the level to drop.

>

> In case it wasn't apparent in the above I agree completely that

insulin may be the best treatment

> for her now. After a short while on insulin she may be able to go

back to pills if she wished, but

> insulin is so much more adjustable.

>

> Ted Quick

>

[Guest guest]

But doesn't insulin shorten your lifespan? I thought that once you

start on insulin then your lifespan is automatically shortened.

Kathleen

>

> That may not help, since when our bg is over 250 exercise will

automatically RAISE bg for almost

> anyone. The system is confused at those levels so it's best to

relax, take some insulin to counter

> it and wait for the level to drop.

>

> In case it wasn't apparent in the above I agree completely that

insulin may be the best treatment

> for her now. After a short while on insulin she may be able to go

back to pills if she wished, but

> insulin is so much more adjustable.

>

> Ted Quick

>

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Thank you for sending me the link, I looked at the site and

bookmarked for future reference. It looks like it's going to take

awhile to read all of it.

Kathleen

>

> Kathleen, cutting down on the number of meals you eat isn't the way to

> go. It is actually counter-productive. Much better to go for small

> meals more frequently.

>

> As Helen said in an earlier post, you need to forget everything you've

> read about low fat diets and concentrate on getting those BGs down as

> soon as you can. If you haven't gotten Dr. Bernstein's book yet -- and

> I highly recommend you do; don't wait to buy it, order it from your

> library! -- at least, go to his website and read everything there.

>

> Again, the URL is

>

> http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml

>

> It also sounds like you didn't follow the link on my newby letter that I

> recommended. PLEASE DO SO NOW if you want to stop being discourged

and

> accomplish something!

>

> Go here:

>

> " What They Don't Tell You About Diabetes "

>

> http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

>

> Take care,

> Vicki

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Thank you for sending me the link, I looked at the site and

bookmarked for future reference. It looks like it's going to take

awhile to read all of it.

Kathleen

>

> Kathleen, cutting down on the number of meals you eat isn't the way to

> go. It is actually counter-productive. Much better to go for small

> meals more frequently.

>

> As Helen said in an earlier post, you need to forget everything you've

> read about low fat diets and concentrate on getting those BGs down as

> soon as you can. If you haven't gotten Dr. Bernstein's book yet -- and

> I highly recommend you do; don't wait to buy it, order it from your

> library! -- at least, go to his website and read everything there.

>

> Again, the URL is

>

> http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml

>

> It also sounds like you didn't follow the link on my newby letter that I

> recommended. PLEASE DO SO NOW if you want to stop being discourged

and

> accomplish something!

>

> Go here:

>

> " What They Don't Tell You About Diabetes "

>

> http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

>

> Take care,

> Vicki

[Guest guest]

If I try doing 50 carbs per day, is it ok to use some of the carbs

for an afternoon snack? I usually eat lunch around 12pm but often

don't get to supper until 7pm or a little later and I get really

hungry around 4 and start snacking.

Kathleen

>

> >Two hours after supper was 209, this is getting to be really

> >discouraging. I even made sure that I only ate two meals today so

> >that my blood sugar wouldn't go up and it did anyhow. For supper I

> >ate a lot of lettuce and a little bit of fish and some leftover

stir

> >fried vegetables. How did it go up with lettuce, I thought lettuce

> >helps it stay down.

>

> Kathleen, what was your BG *before* you ate? Seeing a high number

after you

> eat doesn't do any good if you don't know what it was beforehand.

If your

> BG was 190 before you ate then you only went up 19 points. If it

was 112

> beforehand, then you went up 97 points (which would be odd for fish

and

> stir-fry (depending on what veggies were IN the stir-fry, of

course) and

> lettuce.

>

> Eating two meals a day isn't going to help, either. You really need

to eat

> regular meals and maybe snacks.

>

> I agree with what Vicki said earlier. You should try doing two

weeks of

> very low-carb meals and see how that affects your BG numbers. The

most

> important thing at first is to get your BG down to a reasonable

level and

> fairly steady. Then you can think about adding in some of the more

carby

> foods.

>

> sky

>