Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I haven't, but isn't licorice one of those things that you try before Isocort and HC? Is DH taking it and does it help him? Also, I'll have to look, but I think that licorice is one of the things on my cannot eat list from my ALCAT food sensitivity testing. I'm going to keep the salt water and vits handy in my upstairs bathroom tonight. How much salt do you mix in there for him - 1/4, 1/2tsp? Seems like of all of that stuff, the mag would be most likely to relax him to go back to sleep. The mag citrate powder that I got has to be dissolved in hot water and tended to upset my stomach so I haven't been using it. I still have those enormous mag pills that I guess I could take - grinding them up and taking them with water upset my stomach even more than the powder that I bought but I could just swallow the pill. I don't get tremors or nausea or much of anything in the way of noticeable symptoms anymore except that I can't sleep much or at all after waking up, I sweat a little, and my mind races. > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm thinking it > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can tolerate it. > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a Vit C, > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in 3 > nights! > > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I haven't, but isn't licorice one of those things that you try before Isocort and HC? Is DH taking it and does it help him? Also, I'll have to look, but I think that licorice is one of the things on my cannot eat list from my ALCAT food sensitivity testing. I'm going to keep the salt water and vits handy in my upstairs bathroom tonight. How much salt do you mix in there for him - 1/4, 1/2tsp? Seems like of all of that stuff, the mag would be most likely to relax him to go back to sleep. The mag citrate powder that I got has to be dissolved in hot water and tended to upset my stomach so I haven't been using it. I still have those enormous mag pills that I guess I could take - grinding them up and taking them with water upset my stomach even more than the powder that I bought but I could just swallow the pill. I don't get tremors or nausea or much of anything in the way of noticeable symptoms anymore except that I can't sleep much or at all after waking up, I sweat a little, and my mind races. > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm thinking it > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can tolerate it. > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a Vit C, > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in 3 > nights! > > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > > I haven't, but isn't licorice one of those things that you try before > Isocort and HC? Is DH taking it and does it help him? He's had high BP, so haven't tried it on him, but it's supposed to sooth upset stomachs, and extend your cortisol, so thought it might be something you could try before bed. > I'm going to keep the salt water and vits handy in my upstairs > bathroom tonight. How much salt do you mix in there for him - 1/4, > 1/2tsp? I think he puts 1/4 tsp in his. > Seems like of all of that stuff, the mag would be most likely to relax him to go back to sleep. Well, if you think about it, all 4 items support your adrenals, which are what are TRYING to crank up for the day about 3-5 a.m. > I don't get tremors or nausea or much of anything > in the way of noticeable symptoms anymore except that I can't sleep > much or at all after waking up, I sweat a little, and my mind races. He used to awake to what he called the Crazy Slide Show. Ultra rapid fire images of unrelated miscellaneous things: flower, dog, shoe, spaceship, fish, etc. It was faster than you could even say the words and then his eyes would just pop open. He'd also sometimes wake and his mind would just think about work stuff and wouldn't stop so he couldn't go back to sleep. That sounds like obsession, which is either low cortisol or low thyroid. The slide show almost sounds like it's trying to be a dream, which is images in motion, but maybe cause he was low thyroid, all his brain could manage was still pictures? Who knows? We have concluded that once you're awake, taking HC doesn't help. He used to get up at 3 a.m. to take a squirt BEFORE he'd awake, and that helped for awhile, then didn't. He'd still wake anyway, and now I'm wondering with his success last night with the vitamins if it isn't just dehydration that's waking everyone. Barb > > > > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm thinking it > > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can tolerate it. > > > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a Vit C, > > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in 3 > > nights! > > > > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > > I haven't, but isn't licorice one of those things that you try before > Isocort and HC? Is DH taking it and does it help him? He's had high BP, so haven't tried it on him, but it's supposed to sooth upset stomachs, and extend your cortisol, so thought it might be something you could try before bed. > I'm going to keep the salt water and vits handy in my upstairs > bathroom tonight. How much salt do you mix in there for him - 1/4, > 1/2tsp? I think he puts 1/4 tsp in his. > Seems like of all of that stuff, the mag would be most likely to relax him to go back to sleep. Well, if you think about it, all 4 items support your adrenals, which are what are TRYING to crank up for the day about 3-5 a.m. > I don't get tremors or nausea or much of anything > in the way of noticeable symptoms anymore except that I can't sleep > much or at all after waking up, I sweat a little, and my mind races. He used to awake to what he called the Crazy Slide Show. Ultra rapid fire images of unrelated miscellaneous things: flower, dog, shoe, spaceship, fish, etc. It was faster than you could even say the words and then his eyes would just pop open. He'd also sometimes wake and his mind would just think about work stuff and wouldn't stop so he couldn't go back to sleep. That sounds like obsession, which is either low cortisol or low thyroid. The slide show almost sounds like it's trying to be a dream, which is images in motion, but maybe cause he was low thyroid, all his brain could manage was still pictures? Who knows? We have concluded that once you're awake, taking HC doesn't help. He used to get up at 3 a.m. to take a squirt BEFORE he'd awake, and that helped for awhile, then didn't. He'd still wake anyway, and now I'm wondering with his success last night with the vitamins if it isn't just dehydration that's waking everyone. Barb > > > > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm thinking it > > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can tolerate it. > > > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a Vit C, > > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in 3 > > nights! > > > > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > > I haven't, but isn't licorice one of those things that you try before > Isocort and HC? Is DH taking it and does it help him? He's had high BP, so haven't tried it on him, but it's supposed to sooth upset stomachs, and extend your cortisol, so thought it might be something you could try before bed. > I'm going to keep the salt water and vits handy in my upstairs > bathroom tonight. How much salt do you mix in there for him - 1/4, > 1/2tsp? I think he puts 1/4 tsp in his. > Seems like of all of that stuff, the mag would be most likely to relax him to go back to sleep. Well, if you think about it, all 4 items support your adrenals, which are what are TRYING to crank up for the day about 3-5 a.m. > I don't get tremors or nausea or much of anything > in the way of noticeable symptoms anymore except that I can't sleep > much or at all after waking up, I sweat a little, and my mind races. He used to awake to what he called the Crazy Slide Show. Ultra rapid fire images of unrelated miscellaneous things: flower, dog, shoe, spaceship, fish, etc. It was faster than you could even say the words and then his eyes would just pop open. He'd also sometimes wake and his mind would just think about work stuff and wouldn't stop so he couldn't go back to sleep. That sounds like obsession, which is either low cortisol or low thyroid. The slide show almost sounds like it's trying to be a dream, which is images in motion, but maybe cause he was low thyroid, all his brain could manage was still pictures? Who knows? We have concluded that once you're awake, taking HC doesn't help. He used to get up at 3 a.m. to take a squirt BEFORE he'd awake, and that helped for awhile, then didn't. He'd still wake anyway, and now I'm wondering with his success last night with the vitamins if it isn't just dehydration that's waking everyone. Barb > > > > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm thinking it > > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can tolerate it. > > > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a Vit C, > > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in 3 > > nights! > > > > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 BTW, looking at licorice, am I supposed to be looking at DGL? Potency? I know that this has been discussed but I didn't think that I was a candidate. If this is in the files someone just say files. Thanks, Jasno > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm thinking it > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can tolerate it. > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a Vit C, > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in 3 > nights! > > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I would not do licorice with Florinef. Too much of a good thing. They work VERY similarly. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Yeah, I get the slide show a little - sometimes wake somewhat startled from a vague dream-like state, forget the dream right away and start the nightly fight to get back to sleep. My mind races about work stuff, pet stuff, relationship stuff, and, most obsessively, health stuff. Definitely, once awake like that it's a no go for decent sleep for the rest of the night. That's what is crushing me because it's been happening around 3-4 after going to sleep at around 11 so that leaves a lot of the night to go. If I woke up at 6AM and had to lie there for an hour it would be fine. Taking HC and/or eating doesn't seem to help at all anymore like it sort of used to so if I get up to go downstairs I don't even know what to do anymore. Now I'll try the salt water and vits and consider the licorice for night-time but I want to get on the florinef first before I add anything else. > > > > > > , have you tried licorice yet and had a reaction? I'm > thinking it > > > might have multiple positive benefits for you, if you can > tolerate it. > > > > > > DH woke with tremors last night, took a swig of salt water and a > Vit C, > > > B5, and magnesium, and said he went back to sleep. First time in > 3 > > > nights! > > > > > > Barb > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > Now I'll try the > salt water and vits and consider the licorice for night-time but I > want to get on the florinef first before I add anything else. Did you start the florinef today? If not, DON'T add licorice. I suggested that in case you couldn't get florinef. Salt water and vits you can do with or without, obviously. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 No, I was waiting to hear back here whether to take it AM or PM. I didn't pick it up until 8PM and decided to play it safe anyway and not add anything PM unless someone says to. Also wasn't going to add licorice at same time for fear of doing too many things at once. See, I have learned a few things - mostly to fear every change enough to go slower and one at a time I've got the salt water and vits by the bathroom sink ready to go when I wake up. Don't know about the horse pill mag though. Going to bed now. Thanks again, > > > Now I'll try the > > salt water and vits and consider the licorice for night-time but I > > want to get on the florinef first before I add anything else. > > Did you start the florinef today? If not, DON'T add licorice. I > suggested that in case you couldn't get florinef. Salt water and vits > you can do with or without, obviously. > > > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > > Yeah, I get the slide show a little - sometimes wake somewhat startled > from a vague dream-like state, forget the dream right away and start > the nightly fight to get back to sleep. My mind races about work > stuff, pet stuff, relationship stuff, and, most obsessively, health stuff. Wow, you get the crazy slide show too? Anyone else get that? DH suggested you write a journal when your mind races. Issues that are stuck in your head, once put down on paper, sometimes go away. I think these issues are dealt with in REM sleep, but since you guys can't sleep, your mind can't let them go. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 why do you stay up till 11? GO TO BED!!! When my adrenals were at their worst I enforced myself to go to bed at 9PM. I have always been an early riser and this is the ONLY way I can get enough sleep. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I'm trying to go to bed earlier and I have moved my bed-time up by over an hour but the only time that I have to spend with my wife is after we get home from work for a little dinner and maybe to watch a TV program together from 8-9 and then she goes back to work in her home office and I get all of my food ready for the next day. Besides, I don't have to be at work until 8:15 so I don't want to get up at 5AM. Does treating adrenals mean that we are required to sleep between 9 and 5AM? Of course I didn't sleep last night. Usually I get in bed between 10 and 10:30 after taking my pills, read for 15 minutes to try to clear my mind and then go to sleep. Last night I turned out the light at 11:15 which was bad, but I've come to dread it because of the inevitable wake-ups which, of course, occurred last night at 2AM and this time with a bad stomach ache - probably b/c we ate at a friend's house for dinner. I was parched as usual and had to urinate so I did do, drank my salt water and took my B-5 and still couldn't get to sleep but felt nauseous which is unusual for me so I got up again and took 2.5mg of HC with some cheese and went back to bed and slept - until 4AM when I woke up again with my regular slightly sweaty wake-up with no other symptoms other than not being able to get back to sleep. At 4:30AM I took half of a Lunesta and managed to fall back to some kind of sleep until 6AM and then 7AM when my alarm went off. I feel like I should be sleeping right now but I had to go to work after missing last Friday. I'm starting my new job in two weeks and I don't know how I am going to manage if I don't get this sleep stuff at least somewhat straightened out. Again, I don't know how long time insomnia sufferers manage it b/c this is debilitating me more than the GI or back pain or anything else. > > why do you stay up till 11? GO TO BED!!! When my adrenals were at > their worst I enforced myself to go to bed at 9PM. I have always been an > early riser and this is the ONLY way I can get enough sleep. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Dumb question but does your wife HAVE to work those long hours? I mean, to have a relationship/marriage, there has to be some time spent together, and I don't see a couple hours a day being enough. Maybe she also needs to consider a job change or cutback in hours. Just a thought, none of my business of course. Do you have any hobbies to share that don't invlove watching TV? As for how long term insomnia sufferers manage, it is a matter of trying to get some acceptance. Easy for me to say, I haven't been able to work for 10 + years. If I had to hold down a job I don't think I could do it. But that is somewhat from the other issues I have, thyroid, adrenal fatigue, joint pain, no energy, and so on. I can get the life and death household chores done, and am now doing a bit above that most of the time, but the rest pretty much goes by the wayside. I am extremely lucky that I do not have to work, but it would have been a more comfortable standard of living to have two incomes. My husband is retiring this year, and that is going to be interesting. sol jasrich wrote: > I'm trying to go to bed earlier and I have moved my bed-time up by > over an hour but the only time that I have to spend with my wife is > after we get home from work for a little dinner and maybe to watch a > TV program together from 8-9 and then she goes back to work in her > home office and I get all of my food ready for the next day. Besides, > I don't have to be at work until 8:15 so I don't want to get up at > 5AM. Does treating adrenals mean that we are required to sleep > between 9 and 5AM? > Again, I don't know how long time > insomnia sufferers manage it b/c this is debilitating me more than the > GI or back pain or anything else. > > > > > > >> why do you stay up till 11? GO TO BED!!! When my adrenals were at >> their worst I enforced myself to go to bed at 9PM. I have always >> > been an > >> early riser and this is the ONLY way I can get enough sleep. >> >> -- >> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Well, we used to exercise together - that's out b/c of the adrenals. We like to go to movies together on Friday nights but that would be out because I wouldn't be in bed by 9PM. There are social events with her colleagues (she is a law professor) that she would like for me to accompany her to - those would be out if I have to be in bed by 9. We have tickets to a broadway production for tonight that starts at 7:30PM so we won't get home until well after 9PM. You see my point. And that's before we have to figure out how to work in all of the pills, temperature readings, dietary restrictions, etc. This is not a rant directed at you Sol, or anyone, but if there is no flex in this treatment that we are subjecting ourselves to, there is no way to live while doing it. It has completely taken over my life and ruined what I enjoyed about it and replaced it with pills and innumerable restrictions. I've never regretted anything as much as I regret starting this treatment in my life but there is no way to quit it so on we go. Can I reasonably ask my spouse to ruin her life too? Sorry to all, but that's how I see it. For newbs reading this, others have had it much, much better than me and there is much to hope for in terms of recovery and feeling better. Maybe even for me, although I often doubt it. > > Dumb question but does your wife HAVE to work those long hours? I mean, > to have a relationship/marriage, there has to be some time spent > together, and I don't see a couple hours a day being enough. Maybe she > also needs to consider a job change or cutback in hours. Just a thought, > none of my business of course. Do you have any hobbies to share that > don't invlove watching TV? > As for how long term insomnia sufferers manage, it is a matter of trying > to get some acceptance. Easy for me to say, I haven't been able to work > for 10 + years. If I had to hold down a job I don't think I could do it. > But that is somewhat from the other issues I have, thyroid, adrenal > fatigue, joint pain, no energy, and so on. I can get the life and death > household chores done, and am now doing a bit above that most of the > time, but the rest pretty much goes by the wayside. I am extremely > lucky that I do not have to work, but it would have been a more > comfortable standard of living to have two incomes. My husband is > retiring this year, and that is going to be interesting. > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 jasrich wrote: > This is not a rant directed at you Sol, or anyone, but if there is no > flex in this treatment that we are subjecting ourselves to, there is > no way to live while doing it. It has completely taken over my life > and ruined what I enjoyed about it and replaced it with pills and > innumerable restrictions. Well, I don't regret starting this treatment, not at all. I AM very disappointed that it hasn't gone easily or smoothly for me, or for you, and I do get discouraged at times. But my life was ruined before I started treating thyroid and adrenals, and had been for a decade at least. Though I had quite a lot of improvment from other treatments, etc before trying this, I was not well, and was not able to go back to work, hobbies, or other activities that I had enjoyed. I think I'm slowly improving though, I hope. I lose sight of it, but my husband says I am, LOL. What were your allergy symptoms that made you get the Alcat testing? Have they improved with the restrictive diet? sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Thanks Val. This is all that I can do right now - I'm trying to continue to support her and keep working myself. If the new job works out the way that I'm hoping it will, things will ease up for me on a daily basis which will be very good. If not, something will have to give and my choice would be work. I don't see how my wife can keep up the pace that she has been keeping indefinitely without frying her own adrenals and then we'll both be in the mess that I'm in. I hope that I'm wrong about her, but we'll see this month when we do her saliva labs. I also just sent away to HealthCheck to check on the Frees, ferritin, etc so that we have a complete picture for you to comment on. Her a-hole allergist who is so eager to start giving her allergy shots at least wants to run some labs on her first and includes a thyroid panel on there. I call in to the office to ask whether we can write in the Frees and ferritin and he tells his nurse to tell me " no " because the diagnosis doesn't support getting those labs and we can get those " wherever " we would get those. Thanks pal. Just another stupid doc story. >And to > share your wife's life is a goal to keep centered now when you can;t. > Focus on what oyu wan t and how to slwoly come to that point and you > will get there. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 , I, personally, have read your posts with great interest. They are articulate and you really express your thoughts well (you should start an adrenal/thyroid blog . You've given a voice to the same frustrations that a lot of us feel, but don't post because of 1)not knowing what to say or 2) too tired, too overwhelmed, too hypothyroid, too hypoadrenal, too everything. We're all rooting for you, so hang in there. A few years ago I was feeling so poorly I thought I'd never feel better. I now work part-time, volunteer in my kids' school and exercise, all things I couldn't fathom doing when I was at my worst. It seems like a long road sometimes, but you'll get there! Kirsten > > Well, we used to exercise together - that's out b/c of the adrenals. > We like to go to movies together on Friday nights but that would be > out because I wouldn't be in bed by 9PM. There are social events with > her colleagues (she is a law professor) that she would like for me to > accompany her to - those would be out if I have to be in bed by 9. We > have tickets to a broadway production for tonight that starts at > 7:30PM so we won't get home until well after 9PM. You see my point. > And that's before we have to figure out how to work in all of the > pills, temperature readings, dietary restrictions, etc. > > This is not a rant directed at you Sol, or anyone, but if there is no > flex in this treatment that we are subjecting ourselves to, there is > no way to live while doing it. It has completely taken over my life > and ruined what I enjoyed about it and replaced it with pills and > innumerable restrictions. I've never regretted anything as much as I > regret starting this treatment in my life but there is no way to quit > it so on we go. Can I reasonably ask my spouse to ruin her life too? > > Sorry to all, but that's how I see it. For newbs reading this, others > have had it much, much better than me and there is much to hope for in > terms of recovery and feeling better. Maybe even for me, although I > often doubt it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 jasrich wrote: > Her a-hole allergist who is > so eager to start giving her allergy shots at least wants to run some > labs on her first and includes a thyroid panel on there. Just a comment on the allergy shots--are these desensitization shots? If so, I want to tell you they worked wonders for my son. I don't know how bad the allergies your wife has are, or if she has actual asthma. My son had the shots for 3 years and was hugely improved from them. After he had been getting them for about 6 months *I* started waking up in a panic at least once every night because I couldn't hear him breathing anymore, and I'd wake up thinking he had stopped breathing. We had always had to leave bedroom doors open so we could listen for an asthma attack. I didn't realize until then just how noisy and awful his " normal " breathing really had been. Took me a year to learn to not wake in that panic, I guess because I'd been listening for his breathing in my sleep for so many years. Wish I had known about HC back then. I could probably have used some stress dosing! sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Thanks Kirsten. I just hope that I don't take it too far sometimes and scare people. I have come to regard this group as not just a source of info (bump for Val to read and comment on our latest labs) but as a support group where we can share some thoughts and, at least on part lately, some emotions. I frankly had no where else to share them except for with my therapist who I just found two weeks ago. Thanks for the encouragement. > > , > I, personally, have read your posts with great interest. They are > articulate and you really express your thoughts well (you should start > an adrenal/thyroid blog . You've given a voice to the same > frustrations that a lot of us feel, but don't post because of 1)not > knowing what to say or 2) too tired, too overwhelmed, too hypothyroid, > too hypoadrenal, too everything. > > We're all rooting for you, so hang in there. A few years ago I was > feeling so poorly I thought I'd never feel better. I now work > part-time, volunteer in my kids' school and exercise, all things I > couldn't fathom doing when I was at my worst. It seems like a long > road sometimes, but you'll get there! > > Kirsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Yes, de-sensitization shots. She ended up reacting to so many things that he found it easier to point out the things that she didn't react to. That didn't surprise me at all and it supports my theory that there is an underlying cause to her hyper-sensitivity - like endocrine problems. She doesn't want to get the shots b/c she would have to go 2x/week and doesn't know where she will find the time. She's going to do the saliva testing and I'm getting her frees, ferritin, CBC, etc checked on our own dime since the allergist couldn't be bothered to let us write those labs in on his order. Even if the tests come back the way that I think they might, she'll never agree to start any kind of thyroid or adrenal treatment b/c of what she has seen it do to me so it's probably a waste of time, but at least we'll know. > > Her a-hole allergist who is > > so eager to start giving her allergy shots at least wants to run some > > labs on her first and includes a thyroid panel on there. > Just a comment on the allergy shots--are these desensitization shots? If > so, I want to tell you they worked wonders for my son. I don't know how > bad the allergies your wife has are, or if she has actual asthma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 She might improve on supplements alone if she's not that bad, and the fact that she's still working a full-time stressful job, indicates to me that she's still completely functional. Before I increased my thyroid, I added ashwagandha and that alone got rid of the asthma. That herb supports both adrenals and thyroid, so it might do the trick for her. I'm so sorry you didn't sleep again. How much HC do you take at bedtime? If it's 5 mg, you might try 2.5 in pill form, and 2.5 in cream. I'd hope they have different absorption rates that might last longer on you. Just thinking out of the box for something to try. Barb " jasrich " wrote: She doesn't want to get the shots b/c she would have to go > 2x/week and doesn't know where she will find the time. She's going to > do the saliva testing and I'm getting her frees, ferritin, CBC, etc > checked on our own dime since the allergist couldn't be bothered to > let us write those labs in on his order. Even if the tests come back > the way that I think they might, she'll never agree to start any kind > of thyroid or adrenal treatment b/c of what she has seen it do to me > so it's probably a waste of time, but at least we'll know. > > > > > > > > Her a-hole allergist who is > > > so eager to start giving her allergy shots at least wants to run some > > > labs on her first and includes a thyroid panel on there. > > Just a comment on the allergy shots--are these desensitization > shots? If > > so, I want to tell you they worked wonders for my son. I don't know how > > bad the allergies your wife has are, or if she has actual asthma. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Right, that's what I am hoping too - that either she's " normal " for real, or early stage adrenal and that some vits and herbs will help her. I'm taking 5mg of the Walmart Equate cream that you guys all like - I like it better than the brand that I had to - rubs in better. For two nights in a row I tried 5mg oral with some sunflower butter right before bed which wasn't my favorite thing to do - eating gooey stuff right before bed when even brushing my teeth doesn't get it all - but had the same result - wake up at 3-4 AM. I don't know that chugging the big glass of sea-salt water shortly before bed is a good idea b/c I definitely had a very full bladder when I woke up, but I don't know if it's the bladder that is waking me up. I had almost completley lost my appetite on the lower dose of HC but now that I'm on the florinef and 40mg of HC, the appetite is back with a vengeance. I think that last night my sugar dropped - that bloated stomach sort of indicates that. I don't know what to think except that taking Ambien at 4AM leaves me pretty narced out for 7AM wake up. -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Barb " wrote: > > She might improve on supplements alone if she's not that bad, and the > fact that she's still working a full-time stressful job, indicates to > me that she's still completely functional. Before I increased my > thyroid, I added ashwagandha and that alone got rid of the asthma. > That herb supports both adrenals and thyroid, so it might do the > trick for her. > > I'm so sorry you didn't sleep again. How much HC do you take at > bedtime? If it's 5 mg, you might try 2.5 in pill form, and 2.5 in > cream. I'd hope they have different absorption rates that might last > longer on you. Just thinking out of the box for something to try. > > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > I don't know that chugging > the big glass of sea-salt water shortly before bed is a good idea b/c > I definitely had a very full bladder when I woke up, but I don't know > if it's the bladder that is waking me up. DH takes the lemon/salt/cayenne pepper drink about 9:30-10 p.m., then relaxes/snoozes in his easy chair till 11:30, which is when I usually go to bed. He then wakes up, eats the other half of the apple with sunbutter, takes his bedtime pills, goes to the bathroom, brushes his teeth, rubs the HC cream on his tummy, and gets in bed. So he's not going to bed with a full bladder. I had almost completley lost > my appetite on the lower dose of HC but now that I'm on the florinef > and 40mg of HC, the appetite is back with a vengeance. Yay! That means the florinef is helping your thyroid get to the cells. Maybe this is the breakthrough you've been waiting for. > I think that > last night my sugar dropped - that bloated stomach sort of indicates > that. I don't know what to think except that taking Ambien at 4AM > leaves me pretty narced out for 7AM wake up. That does sound more like a true hypoglycemic attack where you need to eat. There is a difference--sometimes you wake up, sometimes you wake up hungry. DH says his wake-ups aren't hungry anymore, he's just UP, so the salt water and vitamins work for him. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > I don't know that chugging > the big glass of sea-salt water shortly before bed is a good idea b/c > I definitely had a very full bladder when I woke up, but I don't know > if it's the bladder that is waking me up. DH takes the lemon/salt/cayenne pepper drink about 9:30-10 p.m., then relaxes/snoozes in his easy chair till 11:30, which is when I usually go to bed. He then wakes up, eats the other half of the apple with sunbutter, takes his bedtime pills, goes to the bathroom, brushes his teeth, rubs the HC cream on his tummy, and gets in bed. So he's not going to bed with a full bladder. I had almost completley lost > my appetite on the lower dose of HC but now that I'm on the florinef > and 40mg of HC, the appetite is back with a vengeance. Yay! That means the florinef is helping your thyroid get to the cells. Maybe this is the breakthrough you've been waiting for. > I think that > last night my sugar dropped - that bloated stomach sort of indicates > that. I don't know what to think except that taking Ambien at 4AM > leaves me pretty narced out for 7AM wake up. That does sound more like a true hypoglycemic attack where you need to eat. There is a difference--sometimes you wake up, sometimes you wake up hungry. DH says his wake-ups aren't hungry anymore, he's just UP, so the salt water and vitamins work for him. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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