Re: very bad headache,a little nausea before sleep, the isocort?

March 1, 2008

You shouldn't take Iso or HC ONLY in the morning. It needs to follow

a natural daily rhythm. Rather than 4 only in the morning, try 3

first thing when you wake up, 2 four hours later, then 1 pellet four

hours after that. You need to increase the Isocort until your temps

are stable and follow the ramp-up schedule in the files.

Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso.

If you're having suicidal thoughts and depression, your Armour dose

is much too low, but you won't be able to increase it till you get

the Iso or HC high enough and build some cortisol reserves.

Nausea is a low cortisol symptom and indicates you need another

pellet of Isocort right then.

Armour doesn't need to be taken all in the morning. In fact, I find

it works best broken down into 3-4 doses per day. I myself take 2

grains as 30 mg at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime.

Barb

" sweetwulfie " wrote:

>

> Mon or tues I started taking four isocort pellets when I wake up

> for my low a.m. cortisol. I had a headache a day or two after

starting

> it, then a day with no headache, now the headache is back and its

been

> here almost three days. my vison is blurry with the headaches, my

head

> feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

with

> everything. I have had suicidal thoughts along with depression and

> anxiety since I was a teen.

>

> Today before I went to sleep the headache was still there and I had

> some nausea with it, I thought I might have to run to the

bathroom.

> Im having intrusive thoughts, I took my pulse before bed while

lying

> down it was a bout 81 beats per minute I think thats normal. I

cant

> seem to get things done , my thoughts are scattered and my memory

is

> bad too. I have had these headaches many times before and they can

> last a week sometimes.

> it seems that I might not be feeling the cold as much as before the

> isocort, but im not totally sure. im usualy very cold when im

awake.

>

> Can someone please tell me what might be going on? I ate close to

> going to bed so I dont think the nausea was from hypoglycemia. my

> sleep has not been very restful as well.

>

> Is it to much cortisol from the isocort? bad reaction to it? I

took

> isocort months ago in the summer I did ok on it then.im sitting here

> not sure if I should take my armour and isocort, its my morning

> time thats when I take my armour.

>

> Im on 2 grains of armour, I tried to raise it, but had a headache

> then too so I went back down to my 2 grains. I did the saliva

> cortisol test back in nov,07 I have low cortisol at my a.m. and

high

> at my p.m.

>

> the headache is still there and like last night im afraid it might

> get worse as the night goes on.

>

> thank you, sherie

>

March 1, 2008

You shouldn't take Iso or HC ONLY in the morning. It needs to follow

a natural daily rhythm. Rather than 4 only in the morning, try 3

first thing when you wake up, 2 four hours later, then 1 pellet four

hours after that. You need to increase the Isocort until your temps

are stable and follow the ramp-up schedule in the files.

Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso.

If you're having suicidal thoughts and depression, your Armour dose

is much too low, but you won't be able to increase it till you get

the Iso or HC high enough and build some cortisol reserves.

Nausea is a low cortisol symptom and indicates you need another

pellet of Isocort right then.

Armour doesn't need to be taken all in the morning. In fact, I find

it works best broken down into 3-4 doses per day. I myself take 2

grains as 30 mg at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime.

Barb

" sweetwulfie " wrote:

>

> Mon or tues I started taking four isocort pellets when I wake up

> for my low a.m. cortisol. I had a headache a day or two after

starting

> it, then a day with no headache, now the headache is back and its

been

> here almost three days. my vison is blurry with the headaches, my

head

> feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

with

> everything. I have had suicidal thoughts along with depression and

> anxiety since I was a teen.

>

> Today before I went to sleep the headache was still there and I had

> some nausea with it, I thought I might have to run to the

bathroom.

> Im having intrusive thoughts, I took my pulse before bed while

lying

> down it was a bout 81 beats per minute I think thats normal. I

cant

> seem to get things done , my thoughts are scattered and my memory

is

> bad too. I have had these headaches many times before and they can

> last a week sometimes.

> it seems that I might not be feeling the cold as much as before the

> isocort, but im not totally sure. im usualy very cold when im

awake.

>

> Can someone please tell me what might be going on? I ate close to

> going to bed so I dont think the nausea was from hypoglycemia. my

> sleep has not been very restful as well.

>

> Is it to much cortisol from the isocort? bad reaction to it? I

took

> isocort months ago in the summer I did ok on it then.im sitting here

> not sure if I should take my armour and isocort, its my morning

> time thats when I take my armour.

>

> Im on 2 grains of armour, I tried to raise it, but had a headache

> then too so I went back down to my 2 grains. I did the saliva

> cortisol test back in nov,07 I have low cortisol at my a.m. and

high

> at my p.m.

>

> the headache is still there and like last night im afraid it might

> get worse as the night goes on.

>

> thank you, sherie

>

March 1, 2008

You shouldn't take Iso or HC ONLY in the morning. It needs to follow

a natural daily rhythm. Rather than 4 only in the morning, try 3

first thing when you wake up, 2 four hours later, then 1 pellet four

hours after that. You need to increase the Isocort until your temps

are stable and follow the ramp-up schedule in the files.

Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso.

If you're having suicidal thoughts and depression, your Armour dose

is much too low, but you won't be able to increase it till you get

the Iso or HC high enough and build some cortisol reserves.

Nausea is a low cortisol symptom and indicates you need another

pellet of Isocort right then.

Armour doesn't need to be taken all in the morning. In fact, I find

it works best broken down into 3-4 doses per day. I myself take 2

grains as 30 mg at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime.

Barb

" sweetwulfie " wrote:

>

> Mon or tues I started taking four isocort pellets when I wake up

> for my low a.m. cortisol. I had a headache a day or two after

starting

> it, then a day with no headache, now the headache is back and its

been

> here almost three days. my vison is blurry with the headaches, my

head

> feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

with

> everything. I have had suicidal thoughts along with depression and

> anxiety since I was a teen.

>

> Today before I went to sleep the headache was still there and I had

> some nausea with it, I thought I might have to run to the

bathroom.

> Im having intrusive thoughts, I took my pulse before bed while

lying

> down it was a bout 81 beats per minute I think thats normal. I

cant

> seem to get things done , my thoughts are scattered and my memory

is

> bad too. I have had these headaches many times before and they can

> last a week sometimes.

> it seems that I might not be feeling the cold as much as before the

> isocort, but im not totally sure. im usualy very cold when im

awake.

>

> Can someone please tell me what might be going on? I ate close to

> going to bed so I dont think the nausea was from hypoglycemia. my

> sleep has not been very restful as well.

>

> Is it to much cortisol from the isocort? bad reaction to it? I

took

> isocort months ago in the summer I did ok on it then.im sitting here

> not sure if I should take my armour and isocort, its my morning

> time thats when I take my armour.

>

> Im on 2 grains of armour, I tried to raise it, but had a headache

> then too so I went back down to my 2 grains. I did the saliva

> cortisol test back in nov,07 I have low cortisol at my a.m. and

high

> at my p.m.

>

> the headache is still there and like last night im afraid it might

> get worse as the night goes on.

>

> thank you, sherie

>

March 1, 2008

Hi Barb, I was not sure if I needed to take it through the whole day

or not because my p.m. cortisol is high, so before bed I take PS and

holy basil to lower the cortisol. so even if my cortisol is high I

should still take some at bedtime? I tried the ramp-up schedule file

and it wont come up for some reason.

Im not sure if I should be taking the isocort or the HC. people

have said that isocort is not strong enough. im a bit frightened to

take steroids, I have a healthy respect for them. I have low

aldosterone too and have been told I need florinef.

my saliva cortisol test results-

heres my saliva test collection times, i was told to do

them to " my " day, because of my schedule.

( MY saliva test Times)=

700AM - 800AM Morning= my time-about 10:00pm

1100AM- Noon= my time -about 2:00am

400PM -500PM Afternoon= my time-about 6:00 am

1100PM Midnight= my time-about 1:00pm

_________________________

(saliva test results) =

* time* *result* * ref- values*

700AM - 800AM morning = 14 normal 13-24nM

1100AM noon = 7 normal 5-10nM

400PM -500PM Afternoon= 6 normal 3-8nM

1100PM Midnight= 11 elevated 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden: 38 23--42

DHEA= 6 normal 3-10 ng/ml

thank you , sherie

>

> You shouldn't take Iso or HC ONLY in the morning. It needs to follow

> a natural daily rhythm. Rather than 4 only in the morning, try 3

> first thing when you wake up, 2 four hours later, then 1 pellet four

> hours after that. You need to increase the Isocort until your temps

> are stable and follow the ramp-up schedule in the files.

>

> Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

> ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

> hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso.

>

> If you're having suicidal thoughts and depression, your Armour dose

> is much too low, but you won't be able to increase it till you get

> the Iso or HC high enough and build some cortisol reserves.

>

> Nausea is a low cortisol symptom and indicates you need another

> pellet of Isocort right then.

>

> Armour doesn't need to be taken all in the morning. In fact, I find

> it works best broken down into 3-4 doses per day. I myself take 2

> grains as 30 mg at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime.

>

> Barb

>

March 1, 2008

Hi Barb, I was not sure if I needed to take it through the whole day

or not because my p.m. cortisol is high, so before bed I take PS and

holy basil to lower the cortisol. so even if my cortisol is high I

should still take some at bedtime? I tried the ramp-up schedule file

and it wont come up for some reason.

Im not sure if I should be taking the isocort or the HC. people

have said that isocort is not strong enough. im a bit frightened to

take steroids, I have a healthy respect for them. I have low

aldosterone too and have been told I need florinef.

my saliva cortisol test results-

heres my saliva test collection times, i was told to do

them to " my " day, because of my schedule.

( MY saliva test Times)=

700AM - 800AM Morning= my time-about 10:00pm

1100AM- Noon= my time -about 2:00am

400PM -500PM Afternoon= my time-about 6:00 am

1100PM Midnight= my time-about 1:00pm

_________________________

(saliva test results) =

* time* *result* * ref- values*

700AM - 800AM morning = 14 normal 13-24nM

1100AM noon = 7 normal 5-10nM

400PM -500PM Afternoon= 6 normal 3-8nM

1100PM Midnight= 11 elevated 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden: 38 23--42

DHEA= 6 normal 3-10 ng/ml

thank you , sherie

>

> You shouldn't take Iso or HC ONLY in the morning. It needs to follow

> a natural daily rhythm. Rather than 4 only in the morning, try 3

> first thing when you wake up, 2 four hours later, then 1 pellet four

> hours after that. You need to increase the Isocort until your temps

> are stable and follow the ramp-up schedule in the files.

>

> Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

> ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

> hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso.

>

> If you're having suicidal thoughts and depression, your Armour dose

> is much too low, but you won't be able to increase it till you get

> the Iso or HC high enough and build some cortisol reserves.

>

> Nausea is a low cortisol symptom and indicates you need another

> pellet of Isocort right then.

>

> Armour doesn't need to be taken all in the morning. In fact, I find

> it works best broken down into 3-4 doses per day. I myself take 2

> grains as 30 mg at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime.

>

> Barb

>

March 1, 2008

Hi Barb, I was not sure if I needed to take it through the whole day

or not because my p.m. cortisol is high, so before bed I take PS and

holy basil to lower the cortisol. so even if my cortisol is high I

should still take some at bedtime? I tried the ramp-up schedule file

and it wont come up for some reason.

Im not sure if I should be taking the isocort or the HC. people

have said that isocort is not strong enough. im a bit frightened to

take steroids, I have a healthy respect for them. I have low

aldosterone too and have been told I need florinef.

my saliva cortisol test results-

heres my saliva test collection times, i was told to do

them to " my " day, because of my schedule.

( MY saliva test Times)=

700AM - 800AM Morning= my time-about 10:00pm

1100AM- Noon= my time -about 2:00am

400PM -500PM Afternoon= my time-about 6:00 am

1100PM Midnight= my time-about 1:00pm

_________________________

(saliva test results) =

* time* *result* * ref- values*

700AM - 800AM morning = 14 normal 13-24nM

1100AM noon = 7 normal 5-10nM

400PM -500PM Afternoon= 6 normal 3-8nM

1100PM Midnight= 11 elevated 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden: 38 23--42

DHEA= 6 normal 3-10 ng/ml

thank you , sherie

>

> You shouldn't take Iso or HC ONLY in the morning. It needs to follow

> a natural daily rhythm. Rather than 4 only in the morning, try 3

> first thing when you wake up, 2 four hours later, then 1 pellet four

> hours after that. You need to increase the Isocort until your temps

> are stable and follow the ramp-up schedule in the files.

>

> Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

> ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

> hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso.

>

> If you're having suicidal thoughts and depression, your Armour dose

> is much too low, but you won't be able to increase it till you get

> the Iso or HC high enough and build some cortisol reserves.

>

> Nausea is a low cortisol symptom and indicates you need another

> pellet of Isocort right then.

>

> Armour doesn't need to be taken all in the morning. In fact, I find

> it works best broken down into 3-4 doses per day. I myself take 2

> grains as 30 mg at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime.

>

> Barb

>

March 2, 2008

`Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso. `

Hi Barb

this is very important subject for me. i have this head pressure problem and it

is so bad that it makes me suicidal at times. so,i am in need of making this

clear.I am mentioning about the type of head aches Sherie is mentioning below.

She has described it very well.

`, my

head

> feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

with

> everything. `

this is different than ordinary headaches. you can not think,reason,and you live

like a robot when this happens and it goes on for weeks and weeks. not a short

term head ache. you feel pressure inside your head and sometimes it feels like

your head will explode and and very eavy brain fog like thing accompanies it. it

is like there is solid door in front of your brain not fog.you loose all your

desire to live when you have this for long term.

my question is? Do you think this is the type of headache you say hypoT causes

or could it be different type of headache?this is very important for me.

bw

nil

,

March 2, 2008

`Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso. `

Hi Barb

this is very important subject for me. i have this head pressure problem and it

is so bad that it makes me suicidal at times. so,i am in need of making this

clear.I am mentioning about the type of head aches Sherie is mentioning below.

She has described it very well.

`, my

head

> feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

with

> everything. `

this is different than ordinary headaches. you can not think,reason,and you live

like a robot when this happens and it goes on for weeks and weeks. not a short

term head ache. you feel pressure inside your head and sometimes it feels like

your head will explode and and very eavy brain fog like thing accompanies it. it

is like there is solid door in front of your brain not fog.you loose all your

desire to live when you have this for long term.

my question is? Do you think this is the type of headache you say hypoT causes

or could it be different type of headache?this is very important for me.

bw

nil

,

March 2, 2008

`Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso. `

Hi Barb

this is very important subject for me. i have this head pressure problem and it

is so bad that it makes me suicidal at times. so,i am in need of making this

clear.I am mentioning about the type of head aches Sherie is mentioning below.

She has described it very well.

`, my

head

> feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

with

> everything. `

this is different than ordinary headaches. you can not think,reason,and you live

like a robot when this happens and it goes on for weeks and weeks. not a short

term head ache. you feel pressure inside your head and sometimes it feels like

your head will explode and and very eavy brain fog like thing accompanies it. it

is like there is solid door in front of your brain not fog.you loose all your

desire to live when you have this for long term.

my question is? Do you think this is the type of headache you say hypoT causes

or could it be different type of headache?this is very important for me.

bw

nil

,

March 2, 2008

I don't have personal experience with this type of headache. But my

husband, who is still ramping up his Armour, does. He gets it on

days when we increase his Armour and we have nicknamed it " vice-head "

because he describes it like a cap or hat on the top part of his head

that is super tight, like putting his head in a vice. Because of

that, we only raise him 1/8 grain at a time. If he gets vice-head on

that day, he stress doses another 2.5 mg and it usually relieves it.

We hold the 1/8 grain for a few days, then raise again, again stress

dosing if necessary. We then hold the 1/4 grain raise for a week.

The vice-head usually only lasts for the day of the raise.

He also got vice-head the first time he tried 5 mg DHEA in December.

But he didn't get it when he tried 5 mg again yesterday.

So it seems like it is too much Armour or insufficient HC for your

body to handle the Armour. Answer - raise HC or lower Armour.

Barb

" Nil " wrote:

> `Anxiety tends to be from low cortisol, which is why I recommend

> ramping up the Isocort to 8 pellets/day. The headaches come from

> hypo, which increases as you ramp up the Iso. `

>

> Hi Barb

>

> this is very important subject for me. i have this head pressure

problem and it is so bad that it makes me suicidal at times. so,i am

in need of making this clear.I am mentioning about the type of head

aches Sherie is mentioning below. She has described it very well.

>

> `, my

> head

> > feels like its under alot of pressure,constricted. I have

> > had a bit of anxiety , felt like I just wanted to say the hell

> with

> > everything. `

>

> this is different than ordinary headaches. you can not

think,reason,and you live like a robot when this happens and it goes

on for weeks and weeks. not a short term head ache. you feel pressure

inside your head and sometimes it feels like your head will explode

and and very eavy brain fog like thing accompanies it. it is like

there is solid door in front of your brain not fog.you loose all your

desire to live when you have this for long term.

>

> my question is? Do you think this is the type of headache you say

hypoT causes or could it be different type of headache?this is very

important for me.

>

> bw

> nil

>

March 2, 2008