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Delores you have a good point. I also feel like if it feels good in your

body that is where you need ot be, and I also take more estrogen than is

recommended for my age and will probably be raising it again. I also

have strange and BAD reactions to progesterone and do not intend ot

increase it, in fat I may stop it entirely as I ahve no uterus to worry

about. I started retaining fluid after starting P cream recently and

stopping it the fluid went away immediately, pretty conclusive for me.

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Thank you Delores. It has helped me a lot.

You know, I often wondered if I made the right choice, when at 42

years of age and I stopped menstruating, to not take HRT. My ob/gyn

pushed and pushed for me to do so and I refused. I was afraid of it.

Of course I'm talking about synthetics.....the bio's weren't around

then in my part of the world.

Most of my friends are on synthetics and doing just FINE. They have

energy, look young etc. Those are the ones who are on Synthroid too

LOL

And here I am ... taking supplements like crazy,,,,eating organic,

treating adrenals/thryoid, not taking HRT over fears of cancer

etc....and basically not doing as well as my friends!!! I didn't

help me either...that I had a jump start on this at age 42....so

have had to deal with post meno issues a lot earlier than most women.

This thread has definitely made me revisit the idea of HRT...and of

course, now will only consider the bio's. I had done progest. cream

for a while, but nothing more.

Thank you for your help and encouragement.

Naffy

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> > > Estradiol 8.717 pg/ml (5.37-65.9) OUCH LOW!!!

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> > > > > Progesterone 0.414 ng/ml (ND-1.0) little low

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> > > > > Free Testosterone 0.85 pg/ml (ND-2.03) OUCH Low

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I envy you Val. I too feel great just on estrogen & would never use

progesterone if I did not have to. Meno & hypo hit me at the same

time. The estrogen took care of the hot flashes, insomnia, night

sweats & every other meno symptom within a month. The hypo on the

other hand is still not right after 2 years of adjusting meds. GRRRR

Gale

>

> Delores you have a good point. I also feel like if it feels good in

your

> body that is where you need ot be, and I also take more estrogen

than is

> recommended for my age and will probably be raising it again. I also

> have strange and BAD reactions to progesterone and do not intend ot

> increase it, in fat I may stop it entirely as I ahve no uterus to worry

> about. I started retaining fluid after starting P cream recently and

> stopping it the fluid went away immediately, pretty conclusive for me.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

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Were/are you taking HC as well?

>

> Sol, well my Endro when I showed him my salvia testing results told

me to go

> on 50 mg's of DHEA - well a couple of months of that and things were not

> going too well for me to say the least. I also take Estrodial and

> prometrium.

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>

>

> I've tried several times now to take smaller amounts like 5 - 12

mg's and

> each time I had problems. I have never had acne in my life, (I

don't have

> much of any testosterone) so the DHEA sure caused that along with

some other

> skin problems, sinus from too much hormones etc.

>

> SeaLady

>

> Assuming all you wrote is accurate, what I don't get is why (since I am

> confirmed low in DHEA) I feel worse when I take it.

> What could be happening?

> Anybody know?

> sol

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I find this interesting - have been taking Premarin since a total

hysterectomy last year, and supplemented (without doctor's advice)

with progesterone cream... if I take the dose recommended on the

container, I can't sleep, become very anxious and eventually

depressed. VERY small doses every other day seem to give me a bit of

energy, but it is NOT the calming effect that you hear about.

(in UK)

>

> This is interesting as abotu 3-4 years ago I had very high progesterone

> due to supplementation thta I was accidentally using too much. I still

> get veyr bad fluid retentoin and depressed feeligns from progesterone.

> Is it possible this over dose lasts this long? I will have ot be asking

> some pointed questions when I see this doc in April. Thankfully I do

nto

> have a uterus so really do nto have to worry about that side effect

form

> not taking it.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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Will you treat this on your own or do you have a doc that is helping? I

too have low testosterone and low dheas and my ratio of progesterone to

estrogen is low (as well as cortisol being low).

Shelli

nafoel wrote:

>

> Ok....will test on Sat. and then depending on the results, start up

> on estrogen/progesterone and testosterone. Can't beleive I'm

> starting this 13 years into menopause, but guess better late than

> never. Wondering how long it will take to get those labs

> higher....mine are really in the dirt!

>

> Thanks Val,

>

> naffy

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