Re: New IEP LOWERS the bar. Help!

[Guest guest]

E-mail Dr. Blake, and ask her to write a well documented letter that states that

Chargers deaf/blind don't necessary do things in order. It might help you.

Sincerely yours; Krista.

Joanne Lent Joannelent@...> wrote:

I can't believe what I'm reading. Eddie's new IEP LOWERS the bar. I've

got until Monday night to prepare and I need help.

Eddie will be 8 shortly after the school year starts in September. He

is VERY delayed, non verbal, with no communication system. He uses

gestures and vocalization. He will sign more, milk, and eat

spontaneously, a few others with prompting. He does well with

mayer-johnson-type picture cards, when he's interested in what the

choices are. Unfortunately, he's not interested in much. Still, that

doesn't explain why they took took use of pecs OUT of the iep or why a

new " goal " is pushing something away when he doesn't want it. He does

that already!!!! He needs to take the next step toward communication,

but they don't believe he can understand the concepts " yes " and " no, "

for example, and they want him to master one step before moving on to

the next.

Does anyone know of any articles out there that state that

chargers/deafblind don't necessarily do things in order? That any and

every method of communication should be tried--simultaneously--to give

him the greatest chance to find what works for him? I need ammunition.

Thanks!

joanne

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[Guest guest]

I am not sure where you are from but I teach Life Skills in Texas. You have

the right to have another IEP/ARD meeting if you are not satisified with the

IEP's. The teacher is suppost to send you a copy at least a week to 3 days

before the meeting so that when you get to the meeting you can discuss. I wish I

could be there with you because I will argue for the PECS. When I have a

non-veral student, either at the goal or at the bottom where how you are going

to

evaluate I always put " may use PECS, pictures, hand over hand,any communication

device. I like to cover everything.

I hope this helps,

&, parents to twins:

Olivia : potty training,walking, running the house, talking, saying no all

the time and JD(cHArgE: Choanal Atresia, Heart Repair, TE-F Repair, G-Tube,

Trach, on CPap w/ O2 at Night, severe to profound hearing loss, dumping syndrome

)

21 months, Waxahachie, Texas

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[Guest guest]

Joanne,

This is Betsy from DB-LINK. We have a collection of articles about

communication on our web site. Go to

http://dblink.org/lib/topics/topics.cfm and scroll down to

communication. This will lead you to many full text articles.

I will highlight a few.

Expressive Communication: How Children Send Their Messages to You a

DB-LINK fact sheet. This publication contains the Expressive

Communication Map which can be used as a guide to: determine the ways

in which your child is able to communicate with you right now.

(Current) determine the way or ways in which your child can be taught

to communicate during the next year. (IEP Objectives) determine the

ways your child might be able to communicate in the future.

(Visionary Planning) http://www.dblink.org/lib/express.htm

Developing Communication Systems That Meet Everyone's Needs from CA

offers guidance on how to design functional communication systems for

students. http://www.sfsu.edu/~cadbs/Fall00.pdf

Communication Matrix is designed to help parents determine where the

child's current skill level is and how to proceed to the next skill

level. http://www.communicationmatrix.org/en/

Check these out and see if they help. Please call or

email if you need more information.

Good luck!

Betsy

Betsy L. McGinnity

Information Specialist

DB-LINK at NCDB

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

I am not sure if I have missed the time on this, but I don't think they can

really take things out of Eddie's IEP without your consent. Especially when

communication is involved. If PECS are in there and he is already using M-J

pics as part of his expressive (and receptive) communication system, then this

would not give him access--it is part of his total communication access

including signs, gestures, pictures, objects, etc, right?

Good luck and keep us posted.

pam

New IEP LOWERS the bar. Help!

I can't believe what I'm reading. Eddie's new IEP LOWERS the bar. I've

got until Monday night to prepare and I need help.

Eddie will be 8 shortly after the school year starts in September. He

is VERY delayed, non verbal, with no communication system. He uses

gestures and vocalization. He will sign more, milk, and eat

spontaneously, a few others with prompting. He does well with

mayer-johnson-type picture cards, when he's interested in what the

choices are. Unfortunately, he's not interested in much. Still, that

doesn't explain why they took took use of pecs OUT of the iep or why a

new " goal " is pushing something away when he doesn't want it. He does

that already!!!! He needs to take the next step toward communication,

but they don't believe he can understand the concepts " yes " and " no, "

for example, and they want him to master one step before moving on to

the next.

Does anyone know of any articles out there that state that

chargers/deafblind don't necessarily do things in order? That any and

every method of communication should be tried--simultaneously--to give

him the greatest chance to find what works for him? I need ammunition.

Thanks!

joanne